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echinopsis posted:there is a SA set on massdrop which looks cool ish but a bit tacky and also ABS and expensive as gently caress yeah i put it in my cart and once I added a full ansi set and the mac keys I went $110? for abs? gently caress that poo poo and didn't buy it
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minivanmegafun posted:yeah i put it in my cart and once I added a full ansi set and the mac keys I went $110? for abs? gently caress that poo poo and didn't buy it it's still within the realm of reason for a re-issue of a popular set weirdo nerd idiocy, envy and greed gave us this last summer: https://originative.co/products/sa-penumbra https://originative.co/products/sa-hyperfuse the part that i found especially insulting is that for effectively three hundred earth dollars shipped all you got is a bastardized re-issue in row 3 only with other small stuff that got hosed with they did that to preserve the ~prestige~ of owning a "true" round one issue all the while charging something crazy retarded knowing idiots would fall for it, since penumbra has been known to sell in the almost four figgie range https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5nt6h7/the_problems_with_penumbra_r2/?st=j3mes05z&sh=888aa386 can't wait for  to come in and smash all this pretentious nerd poo poo
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surebet posted:
you mean shif t, right? I hope max keys will become competative.
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surebet posted:it's still within the realm of reason for a re-issue of a popular set  e: active now! artisanal!
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LochNessMonster posted:you mean shif t, right? well right off the bat zfrontier is making sure to impress:  with the disclaimer that i joined the group order in march, getting a set of fully sculpted sa doubleshots loving overnighted from china for around $92 canadian (~$68 in freedom dollars) is pretty amazing some pictures of the finished product at zfrontier's office:       i'm not a huge fan of the arrow cluster or the lack of meta keys, so i'm thinking of getting a few r6 leftover keys from 7bit to complete the look (and do a direct comparison between the two).
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pgroce posted:
$70 is dumb, but in the realm of ~artisan~ keycaps it's not even close to being the worse: http://www.ebay.com/itm/112339372875 (pretty sure i saw some single cap, four figgie sales) that spacebar at least has the merit of looking like a finished product
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ah, there we go http://www.ebay.com/itm/252489877984 http://www.ebay.com/itm/252508109002 http://www.ebay.com/itm/291436814456 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151687883770
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Look for my line of artisinal mouse feet coming soon!
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1.5k american dollars for a single keycap. very lol
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this is hilarious http://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/252489877984?item=252489877984&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2565
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what's even more hilarious is that all of these can now be found for $30 at boutique-ish chinese sites like k3kc and probably a buck shipped somewhere on taobao that eighty bucks spacebar at least has the merit of being an original design  that's about 65 caps including 50+ of literally the same thing but in different colors, probably ranging from $40 per to something three figgie each. that's at the bare minimum 2k worth of nerd bait, probably much more
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surebet posted:well right off the bat zfrontier is making sure to impress: the packaging is extremely good
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surebet posted:what's even more hilarious is that all of these can now be found for $30 at boutique-ish chinese sites like k3kc and probably a buck shipped somewhere on taobao this is just loving nonsense. completely disconnected from the feels, like how is this even a keyboard i'm supposed to want to type on
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my lab is surplusing a Dolch system and im trying to figure out how to make it mine. apparently we paid $13k for it when we bought it.
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HEY NONG MAN posted:my lab is surplusing a Dolch system and im trying to figure out how to make it mine. offer to match whatever offer the recycler will give them ie somewhere between gently caress & all
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surebet posted:well right off the bat zfrontier is making sure to impress: That looks pretty good and really cheap compared to SP/GMK sets. I love the stock PBT caps that came with my pok3r and I'm not sure if I want to get an ABS set to replace them.
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Bloody posted:
i see what they were trying to do, but they didn't use a period correct keeb. like at all. it's a 2005-2008 g80 something. had they gone for something older (or at least without blue leds, gently caress) it would've come out less bad dump them on a 1980s g80 and it starts to make sense:  (pictured with a honeywell round 5 set) the honeywell btrm (on which round 5s and this colorway of maxkeys are based on) was a mostly beige keeb:  my maxkeys are in, i'll post some pics after i'm done playing with them
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alrighty, here we go tl;dr these are good and you should consider both maxkey's product and zfrontier's retail channel for your next idiot nerd purchase. in my case i joined a group order with a ~4 month cycle, however i believe that some of the more common colorways are kept stock, albeit on taobao (essentially alibaba but with gently caress all english or out of china purchase support) first things first, some housekeeping:    i remembered wrong when i said this set was $91cad/$68usd, it's actually $91usd shipped. note that the $16.80 shipping cost is the only one available for the couple addresses i tried (mine + a few us ones). they will ship for free if you buy more than $100 worth of stuff. again, i feel i need to stress that they shipped the set overnight, which  , but at least it's not adding 4-6 weeks to the group order processmy experience with zfrontier has been pretty good, especially for a chinese retailer; decent enough comms in proper english, tracking number that works, paypal support. waybill is straight up fraudulent, per china standard, claiming contents with no commercial value (ncv). i don't like this, but heh with the caveat that i'm not at all setup for macro photography, have a few shots!  plain brown box with a tiny qr sticker on the side. card is good stock and the inner baffles hold everything in place very well during transport.   box contains 2 two part plastic trays with a thin foam insert. like pram said, the packaging is extremely good and i'll be keeping it in case i need to store another set of keys or something.  actual important stuff, beautiful double shot honeywell caps with crisp legends. i really want to emphasize that proper qc went into this; the manufacturing process involved in doubleshot caps is hella sketchy at small scale and i was expecting some issues. no alignment, flashing, overmolding or whatever issues as far as i can tell. important to note: the set i bought came with a fair amount of redundant keys in different sizes. always make sure that the poo poo you're buying will actually fit your keeb, especially if you're rocking a special snowflake layout. google "[keyboard model] keycap sizes" or ask around. in my case, my code/wasd is rocking a standard ansi layout.    legend insert is properly level with the cap bodies, and a subtle texture is present on top (vs a polished side finish). hard to tell without a scale, but because of the added material in the fab process, key weight is around the same of pbt caps double shot process is proper and legit looks identical to signature plastic's, which for me confirms that these are made with the tooling comptec (sp's france branch) surplused when it went bankrupt. everything is double shot except for the spacebars (obviously). speaking of those, the set includes both a 6.25u and 7.25u bar important to note: these are still abs caps, so they'll eventually develop some shine, but if you can be arsed to you can re-etch the surface since the legends aren't printed. i personally don't mind the shine, and i might even refinish & polish the set at some point.   redundant keys come in enough different sizes to cover most use cases. lower controls come in 1.25u and 1.5u, you have a set of 1.75u, 2.25u & 3u shifts, and the choice between flat or sculpted capslock keys, among others.  kinda lovely to show off of a keeb, but the sculpt is the same as correct sp sa. left/red being the top row esc key and going down the layout towards the right, we're looking at r1 r1 r2 r3 r4 r3. to quote pram again, quite tall and luxurious.     legends are clean and crisp in two weights and a couple sizes of gorton modified. rumor has it that the original maxkey run had the same kerning issues as old sp runs ( shif t ), lending more credibility that these are made on old comptec/sp tooling. the issue isn't present on this set, so if it was a thing they fixed it. colors seem to mirror a possible 7bit round 5 configuration. i don't have a sp color ring or round 5 keys to compare, but assuming they match more or less, we're looking at white (wfk), red (ras) & medium grey (gpa). one minor ａｅｓｔｈｅｔｉｃｓ issue when comparing this set to round 5 or the btrm it's based on is the total lack of black. white keys have grey legends instead of black ones, although it still looks pretty good imho. this seems to be standard operation for maxkey, for example the original run had pink or cyan on white mains with white on pink or cyan modifiers. the do produce a white mains on black mods set so i might grab one down the line all in all this purchase is pretty needs suiting, especially since i was so desperate to get a nice round 5 set that i was cognitive dissonancing myself into considering spending $500+ for a set off of r/mechmarket i hope we'll start seeing more of maxkey, the whole sa monopoly thing with massdrop & sp. pros: - hella cheap in the context of an sa set - fully sculpted - faster turnaround than a lot of group orders, both in fabrication and shipping time - good qc, good packaging (might be zfrontier specific, ymmv) - good amount of spare keys in different sizes (to the best of my knowledge maxkey standard) cons: - white keys in gpa/wfk instead of nn/wfk - lack of "super" & "meta" legends, using "win" & "menu" instead - arrows keys look weird & fat imho, would've gone for text personally or at least a not-a-triangle arrow 
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BONGHITZ posted:can you type faster now? i don't have an mx stemmed keeb at home at the moment  pram posted:looks good grats i'm still jelly of your r5 stuff tho
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Bloody posted:im the kill+ we all aspire to be
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ok I really really want one of those sets now
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minivanmegafun posted:ok I really really want one of those sets now well i have good news and bad news this is the current offering on taobao:     ("portland" aka dolch, black, cyan and pink) https://world.taobao.com/search/search.htm?q=maxkey they're available ($80-$100 shipped within mainland china) but to interface directly with taobao you basically need a chinese bank account. some sellers will accept paypal & ship to north america, most won't since it's a sale entirely outside of the platform. you have the option of going through what's called a taobao agent, basically a third party mail forwarding agent. expect maybe  in service & shipping charges or something. back when i was doing b2b on taobao we had our own local agent, so i have no experience with consumer level reshippers.the product is available, it's just a complete pain in the dick to get to
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since i've been cheating on you guys with the grey thread, if you aren't following that one, here's a couple things of interest i thought i'd merge in here building an ergodox (not the massdrop one, the open sores reference design) from scratch: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBgJd5LCeXxmNQJnwcQyFuCwz3gV_oShV http://shop.profetkeyboards.com/product/ergodox-pcbs https://www.ergodox.io/ (the videos aren't mine, i just made the playlist) if you want to go down the ergodox route and are diy inclined, you can save a few buck and build it to your exact spergy reqs. it's obviously super loving labour intensive, but the nerd cred and bragging rights of showing up to the office with a thing you built from scratch is considerable. a neat, actually functional project if you want to learn this stuff instead of the usual make-light-go-blink-with-an-arduino-and-a-breadboard crap
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not quite sure how it took canada post a weeks to move a box from mississauga to near montreal, and still gently caress it up enough to 1) not even try to deliver, 2) not leave a pick up card, 3) stage the package 2 towns over despite the perfectly fine post office less than a kilometer from my home, but hey, keyboard is here! too brokebrain'ed to sperg at lenght today so check out what's in the box of a capsless wasd w/ clears and what it looks like once you dress it up:   keyboard: good, clicky and heavy usb->mini usb cable: does it thing usb->ps/2 adapter: iirc required for nkro, using it regardless because gently caress yeah ps/2 lube: lubes stabilizers: just enough to populate the keeb, they seem ok but a spare or two would've been nice cap puller: unexpected, not the greatest, good enough bonus "don't gently caress this up" warning: 
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pram posted:how are the clears compared to browns quite needs suiting, i honestly have trouble telling the difference between browns and reds sometimes since the brown tactile bump is really discrete to me as a ubermensch model m user my plan was to take the new board to an office that complained about the m i have over there is too noisy, but i'll probably keep it at home for a week to get used to it, i'm still smashing the keys all the way down expecting buckle spring like resistance i dislike reds, blacks feel weird to me, blues are meh but greens are goods (i'd have to update my will before bringing a board with greens in public though), browns are also quite meh, clears are looking like the sweet spot for me i'm still trying to track down a beam spring keeb to settle once and for all what a loud keyboard is with a few people though
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surebet posted:usb->ps/2 adapter: iirc required for nkro, using it regardless because gently caress yeah ps/2 usb can do nkro, and what kind of cave computer comes with a ps/2 hole anyways
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Cocoa Crispies posted:usb can do nkro, and what kind of cave computer comes with a ps/2 hole anyways a whole bunch still, in my case it's though my docks it's kinda weird having parallel/serial/ps2 and usb3/displayport on the same thing, but as a toucher of old computer stuff it's quite useful
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