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It was the Cursed Company which included undead dwarves, lizardmen, and orcs. The Company welcomes all.
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Yeah, the Cursed Company stands out as the one example of undead everything. Very strange, but certainly a cool idea.
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Jun 8, 2017 12:28
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1st_Panzer_Div. posted:In a giant loving line with a couple cannons behind and cannons behind, like a proper redcoat army. It also helps to put Karl Franz out in front. Vastly unlike vanilla warhams, in which the AI expertly utilizes its faction's strengths
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Jun 8, 2017 12:39
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Yea I've found SFO really helps the AI in battles. If anything at least it tweaks the AI army composition so you don't have 10 crossbow men, 5 mortar and 5 free company militia AI armies. I've noticed in SFO there are multiple buildings and building routes to unlocking the same units, pretty sure that is specifically to help the AI.
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Jun 8, 2017 12:45
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I was convinced the Race Pack was going to be Dogs of War, but one of the designers on Reddit posted some teases.quote:Your all so cold ❄ quote:I know Goatamon, wish I could tell you now what it is and to stop you wandering. The team is all working very hard on it, to make it as exciting and fun as our other races. I hope that you will enjoy the new features and content when it's released. So now I'm backing Norsca led by Wulfrick the Wanderer, or something completely out of left field. I do think we'll get Dogs of War still though, maybe as the pre-order bonus for Game 2.
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Jun 8, 2017 12:49
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Captain Beans posted:Yea I've found SFO really helps the AI in battles. If anything at least it tweaks the AI army composition so you don't have 10 crossbow men, 5 mortar and 5 free company militia AI armies. There's got to be something doing work in my cocktail of mods, I've picked up Steel Faith and Marienburg is sending three stacks of units at me.
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Jun 8, 2017 13:07
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madmac posted:I was convinced the Race Pack was going to be Dogs of War, but one of the designers on Reddit posted some teases. The loving trollmasters that is CA, goddamn GODDAMN
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Jun 8, 2017 13:19
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Ammanas posted:Ambush stance + lightning strike + free company militia. If you're playing below vh battles they'll route really quickly You have lightning strike turn 5? Hell I rarely ever get that because making my Lord into some invincible God is too fun.
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Jun 8, 2017 13:30
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Corrode posted:I feel like this isn't true because there was a skeleton Dwarf in one of the Regiments of Renown (the toy soldiers versions, not the TWW ones), but I can't for the life of me remember which one it was and it might well have been a Goblin instead. One of the entries in the Book of Grudges is against a Von Carstein who killed a bunch of dwarfs, then reanimated them as a traveling minstrel show.
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Jun 8, 2017 13:50
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Terrible Opinions posted:It was the Cursed Company which included undead dwarves, lizardmen, and orcs. The Company welcomes all. That's the one. The only picture I could find with a cursory google:  The gobbo skeleton drummer 
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Jun 8, 2017 14:14
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Gejnor posted:The loving trollmasters that is CA, goddamn If it is Norsca/Wulfrick, the real question is who the second LL will be. I could maybe see Throgg the Troll King in that role, since Troll Spam fits a little better with Norsca than with Warriors of Chaos proper. http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Throgg http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Wulfrik_the_Wanderer
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Jun 8, 2017 14:22
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Cythereal posted:One of the entries in the Book of Grudges is against a Von Carstein who killed a bunch of dwarfs, then reanimated them as a traveling minstrel show. If there's one thing Von Carsteins knew before GW forgot and turned them into clamshell wearing Orc extras from LOTR, it's theatrics.
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Jun 8, 2017 14:25
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madmac posted:If it is Norsca/Wulfrick, the real question is who the second LL will be. Valkia would be rad.
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Jun 8, 2017 14:25
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madmac posted:If it is Norsca/Wulfrick, the real question is who the second LL will be. Throgg would be great as a monster-specific LL. Troll spam is at least more interesting than marauder/chariot-spam.
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Jun 8, 2017 14:28
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GuardianOfAsgaard posted:Valkia would be rad. Yeah, after thinking about it another minute Valkia is also a good choice, she's basically an evil Valkyrie so it fits the metal viking theme really well. http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Valkia_the_Bloody Who knows, we could get three in total.
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Jun 8, 2017 14:30
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madmac posted:If it is Norsca/Wulfrick, the real question is who the second LL will be. Wulfrick would definitely get a special ability to cause an enemy unit to enter rampage.
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Jun 8, 2017 14:30
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If it is a Norsca update for the race pack, which I could totally see as they're also going to be hanging around in the north of Warhammer 2, what do we think is the FLC update that benefits all factions? Also what units does Norsca get in lore. Right now they have Marauders, Marauder Horsemen, Dogs, Trolls and that's literally it.
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Jun 8, 2017 14:35
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Zore posted:If it is a Norsca update for the race pack, which I could totally see as they're also going to be hanging around in the north of Warhammer 2, what do we think is the FLC update that benefits all factions? Forgeworld gives them mammoths apparently. In the super-old Warhammer editions before they were Chaos themed they were basically just Vikings. Berserkers, Jarls, Huskarls, ect. Also there's some vestiges of Wolfmen and Bearmen in the lore. Like, they have Wolfmen and Yeti's in their Bloodbowl team, and the Bearmen of Ursio were an official Norsca regiment of renown/Dogs of War unit for a long time.
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Jun 8, 2017 14:39
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Party Elite posits that it's possible that this will not be Norsca or Estalia. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOD4fK8f3JI It'll be the Skaven as the ultimate troll by CA, which is why all the details haven't been Ratified. Rather than being the 4th Race in game 2, they'll be the final race of Game 1 and let Tomb Kings take their place in Game 2.
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Jun 8, 2017 14:44
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madmac posted:Forgeworld gives them mammoths apparently. That's still the case as late as WHFRP2e; they're in the Chaos book, but they're a very different people and the Dark Gods are just part of their pantheon because they live close enough not to be able to escape them. Sometimes they end up going full Chaos, sure, but some of them trade with the south (before raiding it in lean times) or even fight against the Chaos hordes. They're Chaos adjacent, rather than being slaves of the Gods.
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Jun 8, 2017 14:48
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Night10194 posted:That's still the case as late as WHFRP2e; they're in the Chaos book, but they're a very different people and the Dark Gods are just part of their pantheon because they live close enough not to be able to escape them. Sometimes they end up going full Chaos, sure, but some of them trade with the south (before raiding it in lean times) or even fight against the Chaos hordes. They're Chaos adjacent, rather than being slaves of the Gods. And if I remember right, they're also not an uncommon sight throughout Imperial lands - sometimes as mercenaries, but sometimes just as traders and adventurers.
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Jun 8, 2017 14:51
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Onmi posted:Party Elite posits that it's possible that this will not be Norsca or Estalia. That would be the greatest swerve CA has ever pulled, so gently caress yeah for that theory. Still would be happy with Estalia, however.
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Jun 8, 2017 14:52
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Cythereal posted:And if I remember right, they're also not an uncommon sight throughout Imperial lands - sometimes as mercenaries, but sometimes just as traders and adventurers. Especially in Marienburg, where having an authentic Norse warrior as a bodyguard is a big fad.
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Jun 8, 2017 14:53
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Night10194 posted:Especially in Marienburg, where having an authentic Norse warrior as a bodyguard is a big fad. I do remember the book also specifically pointing out that so many of these ridiculously buff, handsome young warrior men become the bodyguards of young noblewomen. Just a coincidence. Probably. 
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Jun 8, 2017 14:56
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It's a shame that Norsca is underdeveloped in lore because despite their ultimate subservience to demon gods, they somehow have a functioning society that can engage with the southerners outside of brutal, unrelenting violence and death.
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Jun 8, 2017 15:01
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The old Norse were better than the new slaves to chaos norse
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Jun 8, 2017 15:29
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:The old Norse were better than the new slaves to chaos norse True of every warhammer race.
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Jun 8, 2017 15:42
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Corrode posted:That's the one. The only picture I could find with a cursory google: These guys were cool. Their leader was a mercenary who betrayed his master, who just happened to be a Necromancer, and was cursed to keep fighting after death. Anyone he kills with his magic sword comes back as a skeleton to serve in his unit. It works on all races, even if they are normally unaffected by Necromancy. The standard bearer is an Elf, the Dwarf model had a large bullethole in its chest and there is even a Saurus skeleton fighting with them, though it is hard to see in the picture. When they were released there was a battle report with the Cursed Company joining an Empire army and the Warrior Priest went "see guys, we are so righteous even the dead came back to fight with us" which made me laugh.
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Jun 8, 2017 15:43
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Onmi posted:Party Elite posits that it's possible that this will not be Norsca or Estalia. ...holy poo poo
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Jun 8, 2017 15:50
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Onmi posted:Party Elite posits that it's possible that this will not be Norsca or Estalia. You know, thinking about it, it really might be that this is what they are doing.
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Jun 8, 2017 15:58
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It would certainly make that rat sting at the end of the TW:WH2 trailer hilarious in hindsight. Is there any reason though it couldn't be Skaven for both this new race, and have them be the fourth race in the sequel?
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Jun 8, 2017 16:03
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Rather unique gameplay mechanics does seem to exclude most of the human nations on the map. Unless it's something like a Dogs of War rampaging band of mercenaries kind of deal, I don't really see how it could be anyone other than Skaven who would probably need to have their own way of moving quickly about the map, something to represent their under-empire, mechanics to convey their clans and fractitious nature and the council of thirteen, and they seem a pretty good candidate for a new kind of corruption or just a way to spread disease in general. Maybe also some mechanic connected to warpstone reminiscent of the Wood Elves and amber? I mean who else on the Old World map would call for rather unique gameplay mechanics? I guess maybe you could do something with Norscans, but it does begin to sound like Skaven.
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Jun 8, 2017 16:08
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Ogres. They are not exactly a horde but not exactly a settled civilization. Would be some sort of weird in between.
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Jun 8, 2017 16:17
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Nash posted:Ogres. They are not exactly a horde but not exactly a settled civilization. Would be some sort of weird in between. Maybe. But aren't they like from way out east?
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Jun 8, 2017 16:21
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Onmi posted:Party Elite posits that it's possible that this will not be Norsca or Estalia. The Skaven runes are directly there on the TW:W2 logo. I highly doubt that they're going to put them in the other game, then make a cold pun for literally no reason. I'm waiting for rats as much as you all but come on.
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Jun 8, 2017 16:33
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Pellisworth posted:so the wood elves are arrogant fratboy douchebags and the tree spirits are wooden Nazis? 1. pretty much, but the kind that are real into camping trips 2. technically no, functionally yes. most forest spirits are content to sit around managing tree growth, viewing all animal life as slight variations on squirrels, but understandably team We Don't Give A poo poo isn't big on marching off to war. by far the most common way to get them off their asses and onto team Do Murders is what happens when the two-legged squirrels come charging through and burn most of their poo poo to the ground. This tends to result in some hostility.
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The Skaven have been involved in TW:W1 since the beginning, in the form of random dilemma events and blocking anyone trying to cross Skavenblight. Making them our old friend(s)? I'd rather get Estalia/Tilea fleshed out a lot more. I don't want to see a bunch of Estalian swordsmen shouting "Sigmar preserve us!" while fighting in Warhammexico.
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jokes posted:I'd rather get Estalia/Tilea fleshed out a lot more. I don't want to see a bunch of Estalian swordsmen shouting "Sigmar preserve us!" while fighting in Warhammexico. hunt down the VA for spain in med 2 and get him to reprise his role 
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Jun 8, 2017 16:45
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Onmi posted:Party Elite posits that it's possible that this will not be Norsca or Estalia. Releasing a fan-coveted faction for G1 right before G2 gets released would be an ultra-bonehead business decision.
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Ammanas posted:Releasing a fan-coveted faction for G1 right before G2 gets released would be an ultra-bonehead business decision. Not if they double dip with it. Make it DLC for 1, with Skavenblight etc and still have it be one of the core factions for 2.
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