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Labour | 907 | 49.92% | |
Theresa May Team (Conservative) | 48 | 2.64% | |
Liberal Democrats | 31 | 1.71% | |
UKIP | 13 | 0.72% | |
Plaid Cymru | 25 | 1.38% | |
Green | 22 | 1.21% | |
Scottish Socialist Party | 12 | 0.66% | |
Scottish Conservative Party | 1 | 0.06% | |
Scottish National Party | 59 | 3.25% | |
Some Kind of Irish Unionist | 4 | 0.22% | |
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian | 3 | 0.17% | |
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist | 36 | 1.98% | |
Misc. Far Left Trots | 35 | 1.93% | |
Misc. Far Right Fash | 8 | 0.44% | |
Monster Raving Loony | 49 | 2.70% | |
Space Navies Party | 39 | 2.15% | |
Independent / Single Issue | 2 | 0.11% | |
Can't Vote | 188 | 10.35% | |
Won't Vote | 8 | 0.44% | |
Spoiled Ballot | 15 | 0.83% | |
Pissflaps | 312 | 17.17% | |
Total: | 1817 votes |
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Don't vote Labour, they only mean danger.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:24 |
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Baron Corbyn posted:only if Corbyn loses, and oval office should be pluralised.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:25 |
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Gorn Myson posted:Don't vote Labour, they only mean danger. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siwpn14IE7E
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:27 |
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If you guys do get a 3 day working week and a month off for Winterval, I'm moving over
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:27 |
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https://twitter.com/tombradby/status/872384722802003972 hm
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:28 |
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toiletbrush posted:I overslept so didnt manage to vote this morning, but will be voting Labour later on, same as my brother and sister-in-law. Alas despite my brother being extremely well read on politics, working (loosely) in the field and thoroughly schooling us all on why we should vote labour, my parents are both voting conservative. My dad's reason is that he thinks the tories will be better for the economy - are there any articles or videos from economists explaining the implications one way or the other? I remember there were some great ones for Brexit. As well as the link Coohoolin posted, this is also a decent numerical attack on the myths that Labour borrows more and pays less national debt down when they're in power. http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2016/03/13/the-conservatives-have-been-the-biggest-borrowers-over-the-last-70-years/ Sadly from the number of times I'm hearing it, I think it was probably a tactical mistake for Corbyn's team not to tackle this head on in highly visible formats like TV advertising (I have seem him refer to it in speeches). My attempts to parent convert have failed sadly, at least with my Dad. I don't think the views are atypical though: quote:Thanks for info but sorry not changed my mind. I have lived and worked through left wing labour governments before, which none of you have, pre maggie. It was a disaster in so many ways. Also worked in a unionised environment where there was intimidation to vote for a specific person etc. etc. I never want to go back to that. In response to Coohoolin's case against austerity link: quote:Nothing has changed. Every labour government since the war has ended up with a country with no money. A bad job when the IMF were running our economy!!! back under Healey. You can't ignore history, you learn from it. And in response to the link I just gave you above: quote:2 things - remember the famous note "no money left", secondly until 2015 was a coalition and conservatives had to do some things things Lib Dems wanted not purely their own policy. Whoever wrote that loving "no money left" note needs a drat good hiding. That's another one I hear cited as 'proof' all the time.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:28 |
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Two more votes for SNP in Dumfriesshire. Even if everything else was poo poo, if we managed to kick out Mundell I would be deliriously happy. It'll never happen though.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:28 |
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interesting that at least someone else thinks about the hat-in-hand-to-the-IMF fiasco (the labour left reading of events is BETRAYAL BY THE LABOUR RIGHT WHO SECRETLY WANTED AUSTERITY, for the curious) my own reading is that Corbyn plays the mystique of old Labour more than the substance; compare all the buzz about 'costings', which implicitly acknowledge the desirability of a balance structural budget, to the 1983 manifesto
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:32 |
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This means nothing unless you know what the UKIP vote in those constituencies is. Tory net gains from UKIP have steadily declined over the campaign and it only looks like around 10 seats are actually at risk from this assuming Labour don't pick up voters elsewhere.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:33 |
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ronya posted:interesting that at least someone else thinks about the hat-in-hand-to-the-IMF fiasco It's a stick to beat the Tories with and they still try this magic money tree poo poo, are you genuinely this tedious irl or are you doing it for a joke
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:37 |
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I know that even less hope isn't what the thread wants just at this moment, but for those sweet few who are daring to hope - remember that even if the jam socialist squeaks through and manages to form a minority government he will be held to ransom by the PLP backbenchers, and very likely forced to compromise on almost every part of his manifesto.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:38 |
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Why do people talk about wasted votes? Surely if the vote share for Labour goes up by 5%, that's a whole lot more Short money at the least? (This post should not be construed as tempting fate or anything. I live in eternal hope.)
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:39 |
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forkboy84 posted:Here's something absurd from The Sun What's with all these people referencing the 3-day week in relation to Labour when it was a loving Tory policy that Labour repealed?
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:40 |
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xtothez posted:What's with all these people referencing the 3-day week in relation to Labour when it was a loving Tory policy that Labour repealed? LABOUR > TRADES UNIONS > STRIKES > 3 DAY WEEK This is the thought process.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:42 |
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ronya posted:interesting that at least someone else thinks about the hat-in-hand-to-the-IMF fiasco Yeah, it hasn't really come up specifically much in the campaign, has it? Certainly my Dad isn't the only 60-70 year-old I've heard mention it, but if you didn't live through it I doubt the average person even knows about it. Still, my understanding was that the roots of the crisis were laid under Heath though, so placing the blame entirely on Labour was a bit harsh. I think you're absolutely right about Corbyn - the manifesto really isn't that radical (although still much better than the alternatives on offer IMO) and isn't even promising to reverse most of the cuts. Still, if that's the price we pay for electability. To be honest though, the public doesn't seem to care that it's costed, because the government just says it's not anyway, and how's the public supposed to know any different without reading it.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:43 |
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3 Labour votes in Tory stronghold North Thanet (Dad said he hadn't voted Labour since his first vote back in the 70s and he hated Corbyn a few weeks ago). Seemed empty baring the wobbly and motorised living dead, much like last year. There was a Tory rosette outside counting turnout, which is interesting because apparently they've been emailing members warning that the turnout is high.communism bitch posted:I know that even less hope isn't what the thread wants just at this moment, but for those sweet few who are daring to hope - remember that even if the jam socialist squeaks through and manages to form a minority government he will be held to ransom by the PLP backbenchers, and very likely forced to compromise on almost every part of his manifesto.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:44 |
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In any case, I voted for Caroline Lucas, all but one of the candidates were local, the conservative one was in west riding or something. on the other hand, my neighbor voted conservative because he wanted "Someone strong and steady for brexit" after laughing in his face, he continued with "Well, everyone voted to leave...." so i went and voted, and came back and set his ears on fire. "hearts in the right place, but brain is awol" is the only way I can describe him. staberind fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Jun 8, 2017 |
# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:45 |
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xtothez posted:What's with all these people referencing the 3-day week in relation to Labour when it was a loving Tory policy that Labour repealed? gently caress, I didn't actually know this. I mean, I probably read it at some point, but it had totally seeped into my subconscious. Aargh. Edit: Do any of our 27 Conservative voters fancy giving some thoughts behind their vote?
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:47 |
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Where does the best live text coverage for election night, BBC?
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:48 |
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minema posted:Where does the best live text coverage for election night, BBC? Here.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:50 |
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Voted Labour in Bristol West around 7 hours ago now. Got tomorrow off so I can depress myself in realtime. More important question: beer or rum tonight?
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:50 |
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I voted. For Labour. I wish my candidate was less poo poo but hey ho. I convinced one person in Edinburgh North & Leith to vote for their Labour candidate who is on the approved list so that was positive at least.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:50 |
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minema posted:Where does the best live text coverage for election night, BBC? https://forums.somethingawful.com/newreply.php?action=newreply&postid=473166838
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:50 |
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mfcrocker posted:Voted Labour in Bristol West around 7 hours ago now. Got tomorrow off so I can depress myself in realtime. Vodka. actually, lets have a quick look at what's in front of me : Quietiapine 2 x 25mg, Diazepam, 2 x 2mg, Mirtazapine 15mg x1, and Methylphenidate. All of the Methylphenidate. And vodka probably, will see what's cheap, I'd prefer Tequila. So, see you all soon in discord or that relic staberind fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Jun 8, 2017 |
# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:51 |
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staberind posted:weed
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:51 |
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lovely lady from the green party just came by to remind me to vote. they're so nice
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:52 |
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This is going to be very odd, I've never been to vote a general election before without thinking a regretful "gently caress you, Labour Party, this vote is for Jeremy Corbyn to continue being a pain in your arse" as I let the ballot paper go. This one's for everyone who wants to vote for him and can't, I guess.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:54 |
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gently caress it, allowing hope. Corbyn PM by Monday.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:54 |
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minema posted:Where does the best live text coverage for election night, BBC? The UKMT IRC is good on election nights. And by good I mean a place for mutual misery. My Cool Dude setup for tonight will be my phone for checking the forum & social media, my laptop for IRC, & the TV on BBC Scotland. mfcrocker posted:Voted Labour in Bristol West around 7 hours ago now. Got tomorrow off so I can depress myself in realtime. I have bourbon I bought for the occasion. It's 45% ABV & cost £20 & so that seemed like the important numbers. I could have gotten cheaper vodka (& I might actually still go out & get some, I'd hate to run out of drink tonight, plus it'd be swell to have enough to force liver failure when the confirmation comes in that the Tory majority is 500.) but 45%.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:54 |
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Is that you, Ober? I can't cope with all the changing names and avatars and fake Pissflapses
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:55 |
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mfcrocker posted:Voted Labour in Bristol West around 7 hours ago now. Got tomorrow off so I can depress myself in realtime. Why not both to ensure sweet oblivion
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:55 |
Szmitten posted:3 Labour votes in Tory stronghold North Thanet (Dad said he hadn't voted Labour since his first vote back in the 70s and he hated Corbyn a few weeks ago). Seemed empty baring the wobbly and motorised living dead, much like last year. There was a Tory rosette outside counting turnout, which is interesting because apparently they've been emailing members warning that the turnout is high. Good job fellow Thanet goon.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:55 |
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Dabir posted:It's a stick to beat the Tories with and they still try this magic money tree poo poo, are you genuinely this tedious irl or are you doing it for a joke it's just the conventional narrative: labour has to run against its image or be punished for it at the ballot box, which is why so much emphasis is put by Labour, even Corbyn's team, on costings to begin with. people like simon wren-lewis can grumble but not even mcdonnell will call for keynesian prime-the-pump spending a la 1983 conversely the tories have to suppress the vindictive, nasty party notion or likewise face a vote hit - apparently arbitrary stuff like the dementia or pasty tax have hurt them more than it hurt New Labour's own batteries of tax tweaks a decade earlier - the latter get swept under a broad grumbling of high-handed intrusiveness but much less voter rejection, despite the best efforts of a hostile press
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:56 |
Spoke to a few old timers who have voted UKIP for the last few elections who decided to vote for "Greenpeace" this time as they hadn't apparently seen them on a ballot before. I wasn't going to argue.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:58 |
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Jeherrin posted:11:30am voter reporting in. Glasgow Central. Polling station wasn't dead, but not busy—hope that it picks up at lunchtime. Voted for the jam man, even though it won't make a difference here because the SNP have fooled everyone into thinking they're some kind of socially progressive left party (Tartan Tories, anyone...?) Glasgow Central representing. Voting Labour after work, but like you I don't see the SNP being shifted
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:58 |
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also lol https://twitter.com/TheGreenParty/status/872455541427187713
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:58 |
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Prince John posted:gently caress, I didn't actually know this. I mean, I probably read it at some point, but it had totally seeped into my subconscious. Aargh. i don't think they're necessarily voting toy
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:59 |
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Prince John posted:Is that you, Ober?
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:59 |
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Made my vote. Hope it counts towards something even if Barnet is dominantly a Tory area.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 14:59 |
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Gorn Myson posted:Just voted Labour in Beaconsfield, which is basically a wasted vote because the Tories are holding that seat even if Dominic Grieve shoved leaflets through everyones doors asking us to legalise paedophilia but specifically for Muslims. Beaconsfield however is the worst place in Britain. Nowhere is there a more appalling population to try to deal with in any customer facing job. Condolences.
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# ? Jun 8, 2017 15:03 |