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purple death ray posted:Claremont is good, unlike the posting in this thread all of a sudden
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zoux posted:No, just constantly surprised by how awkward and forced he can do exposition. I just can't take that poo poo. To be fair, it's not Claremont in specific so much as it's the '80s. It was a golden age for "as you know, Bob."
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May 30, 2017 18:17
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Wanderer posted:To be fair, it's not Claremont in specific so much as it's the '80s. It was a golden age for "as you know, Bob." Yeah the exposition really wasn't a Claremont specific thing most comic writers did that, even Thomas. Claremont was the purple prose dude, which some people dislike, which is fair.
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May 30, 2017 18:45
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I've honestly never been that impressed by Roy Thomas and if there's a big critical revival of Roy Thomas going on I'm unaware of it. I also don't really know his stuff at all. I like his Conan an awful lot and I dislike his Avengers pretty strongly. Ditto the little I've read of Infinity, Inc. and All-Star Squadron. So, like-- not being facetious at all, I swear-- what are the classic, can't-miss Roy Thomas runs? Of course, there's also the possibility that he's just not for me. I'll also concede that I only really start loving Claremont's tenure on Uncanny X-Men at the point where most people check out. Mutant Massacre onwards, essentially-- adore the Outback stuff, wish he'd been able to play out the Muir Island business at the pace he wanted, love his work with Silvestri, etc. So I could also just be The Comics Deviant. How Wonderful! fucked around with this message at 19:50 on May 30, 2017 |
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May 30, 2017 19:34
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Nah the Outback stuff is great. X-Men is just genuinely great from Giant Size #1 up into the early 90s.
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May 30, 2017 19:38
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Wasn't most of the Claremontism in that Storm panel because of Jim Shooter's "every comic could be someone's first" rules? Like, on some level we could do with more of that now, I think; of course, we have also advanced in other ways, such as accepting that gay people exist.
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May 30, 2017 20:11
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Archyduke posted:I've honestly never been that impressed by Roy Thomas and if there's a big critical revival of Roy Thomas going on I'm unaware of it. I also don't really know his stuff at all. I like his Conan an awful lot and I dislike his Avengers pretty strongly. Ditto the little I've read of Infinity, Inc. and All-Star Squadron. So, like-- not being facetious at all, I swear-- what are the classic, can't-miss Roy Thomas runs? Of course, there's also the possibility that he's just not for me. I dug his Dr. Strange, but it wasn't as good as the Lee Ditko stuff before it, whereas Claremont wrote the best X-Men ever (also some bad X-Men, but that happens when you're writing the same book in three different decades).
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May 30, 2017 22:58
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Roy Thomas and John Buscema's work on Conan defined the character for decades to come. Modern Conan stuff at Dark Horse is still taking more cues from Savage Sword than any other version of the character. That alone makes Roy Thomas a legend in my mind. Like yeah it was faithful to Robert E. Howard's original work, but the way Thomas adapted those works to make them palatable to modern readers, not to mention how he adapted other Howard works or even works from later writers into Conan stories, seamlessly blending them in, is nothing short of amazing. He also created Iron Fist, which contrary to what Netflix might have you believe, is a rad character. The guy's no Steve Gerber or Alan Moore, but he's pretty great.
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May 30, 2017 23:38
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Yes, the Dark Horse Conan stuff is good. I got the first like 9 volumes.
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Jun 3, 2017 17:20
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Does anyone have the set of panels where Conan is on a ship somewhere and a sea monster rises up to attack the boat, and Conan's reaction is to turn to the sky and shout "Crom! Why do you hate me?!" before turning to fight the monster?
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Jun 4, 2017 13:49
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Wanderer posted:To be fair, it's not Claremont in specific so much as it's the '80s. It was a golden age for "as you know, Bob." TBH I like very few comics written prior to 2000.
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Jun 8, 2017 02:36
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Endless Mike posted:
The gently caress? When did Frank Miller's modern work become coherent?
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Jun 8, 2017 04:24
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That's Andy Kubert, isn't it?
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Jun 8, 2017 04:41
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So uh, what's up with that dude's head?
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Jun 8, 2017 04:52
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some dudes just have big face
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Kramjacks posted:So uh, what's up with that dude's head? Joseph Merrick was from Krypton?
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Jun 8, 2017 05:07
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hup posted:That's Andy Kubert, isn't it? Yup, with Klaus Janson's inks, which is why it has that classic Miller chunky weight to it.
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Jun 8, 2017 05:10
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Synthbuttrange posted:some dudes just have big face More face means more teeth for spittin'.
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Jun 8, 2017 05:13
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Endless Mike posted:
This is like those panels where somebody finds out Spider-Man is actually super-strong and just takes it easy on people because he's a nice guy. 
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Jun 8, 2017 11:35
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Oh yeah, more powerful than a locomotive.
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ecavalli posted:The gently caress? When did Frank Miller's modern work become coherent? That said, Miller wrote and pencilled the backup stories for each issue and they're actually quite nicely drawn. Kramjacks posted:So uh, what's up with that dude's head?
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Jun 8, 2017 13:24
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I'm just impressed Miller wrote something nice about Superman.
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Jun 8, 2017 14:20
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prefect posted:This is like those panels where somebody finds out Spider-Man is actually super-strong and just takes it easy on people because he's a nice guy. Spider guy cn lift something like 10 tons, but he has to pull his punches. Most of the people he fights are just regular people in suits. If he didn't, there would be people jelly everywhere.
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Jun 8, 2017 15:09
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Let's have a moment of silence for WickedHate and the inevitable "yeah but it would be cool if Spider-Man ripped people's skin off with his sticky hands" post we'd have to read if she hadn't got banned.
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Jun 8, 2017 15:25
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Someone post Spidey no selling the Punisher again (one of my all time favorites)
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Jun 8, 2017 15:26
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purple death ray posted:Let's have a moment of silence for WickedHate and the inevitable "yeah but it would be cool if Spider-Man ripped people's skin off with his sticky hands" post we'd have to read if she hadn't got banned. To be fair Scarlet Spider was pretty cool.
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Jun 8, 2017 15:26
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i do think that batman being surprised that superman, the man he's seen do all sorts of loving godlike, is also good at fighting people after a lifetime of it is quite funny, especially with x-ray vision that lets him see exactly where every point he needs to hit is
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Jun 8, 2017 15:28
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quite stretched out posted:i do think that batman being surprised that superman, the man he's seen do all sorts of loving godlike, is also good at fighting people after a lifetime of it is quite funny, especially with x-ray vision that lets him see exactly where every point he needs to hit is When a guy is stronger and tougher than just about everybody, and also has laser eyes, you might not expect him to have developed his fighting skills so much.
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what if he also spent a lot of super-speed time hanging around you, a guy who thinks he's perfected his fighting skills. like surely supes has had a bunch of fights alongside batman where he's watched what bats is doing if for no reason other than to kill time
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hiddenriverninja posted:Someone post Spidey no selling the Punisher again (one of my all time favorites) 
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Jun 8, 2017 15:40
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prefect posted:When a guy is stronger and tougher than just about everybody, and also has laser eyes, you might not expect him to have developed his fighting skills so much. What I love about those panels is he is fighting other Kryptonians. Like sure maybe those guys are trained soldiers and stuff. But they have had super powers for like a day. They know how to punch harder and faster. Superman has had a lifetime of fighting kryptonite cyborgs and power absorbing parasite men as training.
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Endless Mike posted:
Wasn't it acid/kryptonite rain?
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Jun 8, 2017 17:22
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purple death ray posted:Let's have a moment of silence for WickedHate and the inevitable "yeah but it would be cool if Spider-Man ripped people's skin off with his sticky hands" post we'd have to read if she hadn't got banned. Didn't that happen recently against Osborne, I want to say just before Ock took over?
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purple death ray posted:Let's have a moment of silence for WickedHate and the inevitable "yeah but it would be cool if Spider-Man ripped people's skin off with his sticky hands" post we'd have to read if she hadn't got banned. 
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Jun 8, 2017 19:59
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Cabbit posted:Didn't that happen recently against Osborne, I want to say just before Ock took over? That, also during one of the arcs where Kraven's family is hunting him and he gets tired of it (rips some woman's face off).
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I don't want Spider-man to kill people, I just want elseworlds/what-if/2099/mangaverse/whatever-the-gently caress characters with Spider-man's powers to do it.biracial bear for uncut posted:(rips some woman's face off).  Not necessarily that way though.
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Jun 8, 2017 21:05
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similar when spidey turns up the heat and shows his strength, a classic:
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Goa Tse-tung posted:similar when spidey turns up the heat and shows his strength, a classic: I've done it before, but I'm going to do it again. Spider-Man in the original Secret Wars.   
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Also that one time he beat Flamelord or whatever that one guy's name is, who is a herald of Galactus and hence a Big loving Deal
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