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Skex posted:Dude you really are dense, you already dunked yourself you should just stop. This. Anyone who thought they were going to drag Trump out of the White House kicking and screaming was delusional. It is much more advantageous for the Democrats to have this YUUUGE unpopular albatross hanging around the Republicans' necks for the next 3.5 years.
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skylined! posted:lol this can't be real I can't handle all the vindication
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He's probably right, in so much that Trump himself is likely fine criminally, and in regards to not being removed from office no matter what happens. Unless something crazy comes up in the investigation. What matters from here on out is what happens with everyone around Trump. And how bad that makes the GOP in general look.
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Blitz7x posted:It's going to be wonderful once reports leak out that they're sleeping in separate rooms because she can't stand him or his apnea Honesty I think everyone expects that at this point. Also, isn't it more common for couples at Trump's age to sleep in separate beds?
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Retro42 posted:They have absolutely no idea how government works do they? all the attorneys who do didn't want the job
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Alter Ego posted:Accusing Comey of lying about this particular thing puts the burden of proof on Trump. Only way to prove it is to release the tapes There's a great comedy skit from the 90s from Reeves and Mortimer where one accuses the other of saying Mick Jagger started WW2. He taped him saying it, plays it and it goes 'And from my conclusions, WW2 was started by *CZZZHS* MICK JAGGER *CZZHXXDZXD*' with an obvious cut and voice change. I hope Trump releases the tapes and they are badly edited in this way.
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Meridian posted:Wasn't aware that she was forced into that arrangement. Forced to stay in that arrangement though, if the rumors are to be believed.
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BootStrap posted:This. Anyone who thought they were going to drag Trump out of the White House kicking and screaming was delusional. I don't know. Towards the end, when it became clear Nixon was going to be removed from office, "high-ranking officials in the Department of Defense and the White House privately worried about the possibility that Nixon would ring the streets around the White House with tanks and armored personnel carriers, ostensibly to protect the Executive Mansion from acts of civil disobedience, but also to set up a fortress-like barrier that might allow him to remain in the White House in the case of a Congressional or Supreme Court-ordered removal from office." http://deadpresidents.tumblr.com/post/94193788707/what-have-i-done-richard-nixons-perilous
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Spiritus Nox posted:Hell, if anything she had ample evidence of what she was getting into! Her prenup is probably pretty good.
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Sessions being fired would be hilarious. Only because they'll have to find someone to replace him and it will be a glorious poo poo show.
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Probably the best Onion headline in a long time. Trump Asks Entire Senate To Clear Out Of Chamber So He Can Speak To Comey Alone
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Jesus loving christ, NYT.
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Dexo posted:He's probably right, in so much that Trump himself is likely fine criminally, and in regards to not being removed from office no matter what happens. Unless something crazy comes up in the investigation. It already been rehashed numerous times in the thread but the GOP will defend Trump 100% until they just can't anymore. Public opinion-wise Trump is hosed and then some. 4 months in and it will be FOREVER tainted in the history books.
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Jun 8, 2017 20:54
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Has Trump ever been under oath for a court hearing in his life? I'd like to see a transcript if he has - I wonder how much of the facade comes down when he's required to be truthful
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whats wrong with that?
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Dexo posted:He's probably right, in so much that Trump himself is likely fine criminally, and in regards to not being removed from office no matter what happens. Unless something crazy comes up in the investigation. The investigation is going to go well into next year, will constantly hound his first year in office, and is non-binding if rejected. And will, ABSOLUTELY, lead to indictments against people like Flynn. No matter what happens come election time a bunch of people around Trump are going to be getting charges dropped on them and the referendum is going to be "You hosed up electing Trump, we know, elect us Democrats and we'll impeach him instantly".
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Skippy Granola posted:I can't handle all the vindication I don't even get it. * Since the firing, Trump has been obsessed with 'proving' that Comey assured him he was not under investigation. Why is this a thing? * What about Comey's potential testimony was the Trump enterprise even worried about? What bomb did Comey not drop that they are so glad has passed them over?
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botany posted:whats wrong with that? Reminds people that a majority of this country catches unreasonable poo poo for no other reason than their gender.
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Jun 8, 2017 20:57
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That seems more than reasonable, and Comey got victim-blamed for not immediately running out and reporting this to his boss (who works for Trump), or Trump. Who do you report bad poo poo to when the person committing bad poo poo is the one you report to?
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EugeneJ posted:Has Trump ever been under oath for a court hearing in his life? Yes. There's transcripts of his deposition from the Trump University case out there.
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botany posted:whats wrong with that? It's a fair comparison. "Don't leave me in a room alone with him ever again" stuck out in particular
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Jun 8, 2017 20:58
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this is a pretty good article and its good when you can draw these sorts of connections to give people an understanding of other people's experiences through analogy to ones they know
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Yes. Ooooooh cool - thanks!
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botany posted:whats wrong with that? Top of NYT opinion right now: "Yeah, just like sexual harassment, am I right girls??"
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Jun 8, 2017 20:59
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Every Republican I've talked to thinks it's a nothingburger or bad for Democrats. People really do live in separate realities.
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Jun 8, 2017 20:59
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If I were Trump's attorney I might act like that, just to keep him from rushing out to defend himself. When your client is prone to going off the rails, you do what you gotta do. Not saying that's what's actually going on, but there are non-crazy reasons for him to lie like that.
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Mendrian posted:I don't even get it. Chump is guilty af and wants comey to assure him he's safe. Also the real bombs might have been dropped in this afternoon's closed-door session. Vindication
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At times like these I like to look back at Obama's first year in office, and how quaint the world of 2009 wasquote:June 11 – Miss California Carrie Prejean, who had become an outspoken critic of same-sex marriage after winning her title, has her crown stripped by Donald Trump for alleged breach of contract. 
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:A former FBI director just testified in front of Congress that the President of the United States may have attempted to interfere with a federal investigation of his administration's ties to our top foreign adversary. yes?  that seems like a valid and important comparison to me? did you follow the bill cosby trial at all? because this sort of victim blaming is common as hell in all of society and it's worth pointing out at every available opportunity that it isn't okay.
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my bony fealty posted:At times like these I like to look back at Obama's first year in office, and how quaint the world of 2009 was Still got that one video of her in C:\Tax Documents\
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Petr posted:Every Republican I've talked to thinks it's a nothingburger or bad for Democrats. People really do live in separate realities. I'm not sure how much the "Every part of the intelligence community is massively concerned about Russian invovlement and we consider it an attack on the US" has penetrated yet. Even I was kinda shocked by how blatant he said that.
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:A former FBI director just testified in front of Congress that the President of the United States may have attempted to interfere with a federal investigation of his administration's ties to our top foreign adversary. Just because you're having trouble with the analogy, doesn't mean that this is the extremely woke thinkpiece you're claiming it is
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:A former FBI director just testified in front of Congress that the President of the United States may have attempted to interfere with a federal investigation of his administration's ties to our top foreign adversary. It's obviously a rebuttal to victim blaming and the GOP talking points of "why didn't comey tell trump to stop? It's his fault he didn't"
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TheScott2K posted:It's actually up for debate that a sitting President can only be impeached but not indicted. I don't really see where indictment immunity comes from. Certainly doesn't fall under Sovereign Immunity. It's one of those questions nobody really bothered with until a literal criminal compromised by a foreign power was elected President with a supportive Congress. No, it was actually asked a ton during Watergate and that is when the current precedent comes from
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I agree with the sentiment but perhaps this is not the right time and place to be using it for clicks??
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EugeneJ posted:Has Trump ever been under oath for a court hearing in his life? Why do you think that being under oath would result in him being more honest than otherwise? It's not like an oath is a magic truth serum. Honestly I doubt that a narcissistic compulsive liar like Trump is even capable of telling the "Truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth". Someone like Comey or someone with experience with places and situations as well as a real understanding of the legal consequences of perjuring themselves will be careful to tell the truth in the strictest legal sense. He's a lawyer he's been trained in that. Trump is a conman, lying is what he does and to be honest it's worked for him so why should he stop? Besides he's already publicly admitted to obstruction and gotten away with his, what's a little perjury?
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:I agree with the sentiment but perhaps this is not the right time and place to be using it for clicks?? actually it is though
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:I agree with the sentiment but perhaps this is not the right time and place to be using it for clicks??
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:I agree with the sentiment but perhaps this is not the right time and place to be using it for clicks?? You have the option to not read or share it, though? The NYT also publishes many other op-eds and articles with a variety of viewpoints, all of them are being "used for clicks"
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