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Aphrodite posted:(I'll refrain from naming anyone specific, I'm classy) Chris Jaimes Dos, V. fff and that weird ostentatius guy
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WEEEEEEEeeeeEEeeeLLLLL Well it's the Bog Dog He's got a big bow wow bone
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What is it about Alexa that attracts the worst fanbase possible? Is it because she dressed as Harley Quinn a couple times?
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JT Smiley posted:What is it about Alexa that attracts the worst fanbase possible? Is it because she dressed as Harley Quinn a couple times? Why ask questions you already know the answer to.
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Aphrodite posted:I'm just glad Bayley got squashed out of the title picture so now that when she has bad matches against other people and people point out they're bad, dumb Jimmy Howard fans (I'll refrain from naming anyone specific, I'm classy) won't be able to use lazy "Yeah but Alexa!" arguments. Bayley is elite. 
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Marquis de Pyro posted:House of Horrors was kind of like an atomic bomb strike, wow everything gets more stars in japan
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Chris James 2 posted:John Cena posted: What is this in reference to?
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Jun 8, 2017 18:56
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Spikeguy posted:What is this in reference to? Part of an interview he did with TheWrap Full quote posted:I believe that it’s a ‘Strong Survive’ environment, and accept nothing less. I think people forget my [history] in WWE sometimes and the fact that I truly had to earn every inch. There is this overwhelming perception that I am protected and coddled — that couldn’t be father from the truth.
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Jun 8, 2017 19:00
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The "Cena loses, Cena wins, Cena wins, Cena wins" booking trope didn't hurt anybody. They just didn't want it enough. No hustle either!
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Jun 8, 2017 19:07
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JT Smiley posted:What is it about Alexa that attracts the worst fanbase possible? Is it because she dressed as Harley Quinn a couple times? im an extremely good poster, actually
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JT Smiley posted:What is it about Alexa that attracts the worst fanbase possible? dromal phrenia posted:im an extremely good poster, actually GOOD JOKE. EVERYBODY LAUGH.
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dromal phrenia posted:im an extremely good poster, actually False. Aphrodite posted:I'm just glad Bayley got squashed out of the title picture so now that when she has bad matches against other people and people point out they're bad, dumb Jimmy Howard fans (I'll refrain from naming anyone specific, I'm classy) won't be able to use lazy "Yeah but Alexa!" arguments. Oh yeah, it's great that Alexa is done with the Bayley feud, now she can move on to such hights and a feud with Nia Jax and Dana Brook. 
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Jun 8, 2017 19:26
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dsriggs posted:The "Cena loses, Cena wins, Cena wins, Cena wins" booking trope didn't hurt anybody. They just didn't want it enough. No hustle either! People need to follow the John Cena path, where a young hungry talent drops to the lower card after being given a debut marquee match against a main eventer, then teetering on the cusp of being fired for months until the boss's daughter likes your Vanilla Ice cosplay
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is it because all the wrestling is bad except for fashion files that everyone has become obsessed with Posting Politics
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projecthalaxy posted:is it because all the wrestling is bad except for fashion files that everyone has become obsessed with Posting Politics more or less
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I'm kinda confused by johns interview. He says he works super hard and will do anything the new guy wants but after the feud they are unmotivated. Just kinda seems at odds
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Soothing Vapors posted:brokebrains love them a pigtailed midget for reasons it's probably best not to dwell on Please dont be a Bayley.
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 im gonna post 10x as often because of you jerks
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oldpainless posted:I'm kinda confused by johns interview. He says he works super hard and will do anything the new guy wants but after the feud they are unmotivated. Just kinda seems at odds He's saying that once they dip out of the spotlight, they stop working as hard. It's not confusing, and there's a pretty good list of guys who have done just that in wrestling. Like Sting!
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dsriggs posted:The "Cena loses, Cena wins, Cena wins, Cena wins" booking trope didn't hurt anybody. They just didn't want it enough. No hustle either! This but unironically. Rusev is the only recent Cena feud that hasn't gone on to win the world title.
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bradzilla posted:This but unironically. Rusev is the only recent Cena feud that hasn't gone on to win the world title. Rusev got stuck with poo poo like the Dolph feud and the League of Nations where none of his matches post-Cena really stood out as Must See and then got hurt Owens had a mediocre world title run and then a stereotypical foreigner midcard title run where none of his matches post-Cena really stood out as Must See
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I'm more confused by the part where he says "I give them free range to throw their best punch — and just know that I’m going to punch back" because that's a lot less fair than it sounds. People can and do cut strong promos on Cena, but his tactic of treating them as inferior or even a joke is going to seem extremely legitimate because he's been booked so strongly for so long. It's hard to act like you're on even ground with Cena when he has a thousand accolades under his belt and you don't. This would be less of an issue if Cena lost more feuds, but losing one match and then winning 3 is naturally going to impact someone's motivation. I think this isn't as true nowadays, but there was a long time where facing Cena meant you would go from 'a potential star' to 'just like everyone else.'
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Jun 8, 2017 19:42
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Chris James 2 posted:Owens had a mediocre world title run and then a stereotypical foreigner midcard title run where none of his matches post-Cena really stood out as Must See I thought his title defenses at HIAC and Royal Rumble were pretty drat good, outside of AJs matches I can't recall many better ones.
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I wonder how much of the problem is actually people getting lazy. A match against Cena is going to get a good amount of time in front of a hot crowd with a worker that wants to bring his A-game. Very few wrestlers get responses like Cena (Reigns is getting there), so the post-Cena feud isn't going to have the same level of crowd energy. If your next feud is, say, Orton, he's not bringing his A-game to the promos or the match. So even if you're still working hard, you're pretty hamstrung by factors out of your control.
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Jun 8, 2017 19:48
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Basically all of Owens' title defenses were loving awesome must see matches. You can say a lot about that run, but you can't impugn Owens' efforts in the slightest, dude fuckin' brought it every single time. The only exception I can think of is RoadblockENDOFTHELINE. Like, if the match he had with Rollins on Raw isn't must-see, nothin' is.
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Jun 8, 2017 19:49
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I figure it's just the stop go booking. Where they are put into a feud with Cena, Cena wins then the dude is jobbing for the next year then they get a minor push, the fans don't care because we watched him job for the last year and then wwe stops pushing them again.
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VJeff posted:Basically all of Owens' title defenses were loving awesome must see matches. You can say a lot about that run, but you can't impugn Owens' efforts in the slightest, dude fuckin' brought it every single time. The only exception I can think of is RoadblockENDOFTHELINE. The Goldberg match, obviously not. The HIAC match, wasn't even the best HIAC match on that card. Roadblock had that stupid finish, Rumble match was good but again wouldn't say it was the best match on the card (Styles/Cena being there admittedly makes that unfair) I might have just missed the Rollins Raw match (I'll be the first to say lol if you watch every Raw, and there's almost certainly been at least one great thing I've skipped of the many just by sheer law of averages) but everything else, to me, doesn't seem like something I'd put on a Best of the year list. The Jericho feud was great but that was after the world title was out of the picture The_Rob posted:I figure it's just the stop go booking. Where they are put into a feud with Cena, Cena wins then the dude is jobbing for the next year then they get a minor push, the fans don't care because we watched him job for the last year and then wwe stops pushing them again. Pretty much. I don't blame someone for losing interest knowing they're in a peak point and it's all going to be downhill. And it definitely does happen with people against Cena, see: the Nexus, Damien Sandow, Umaga
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Chris James 2 posted:The Goldberg match, obviously not. The HIAC match, wasn't even the best HIAC match on that card. Roadblock had that stupid finish, Rumble match was good but again wouldn't say it was the best match on the card (Styles/Cena being there admittedly makes that unfair) Yeah the Goldberg match is  , I thought the HIAC match was the best on that card and neither of the other two were anything special, but different strokes. Roadblock did have a terrible goddamn finish, but that's not on Owens.The Raw match was November 21st, the day after Survivor Series. It's on the Network under Raw replays, if you haven't seen it, I'd strongly recommend it. I mean I'll be the first to say that Owens' run with the Universal title was lame because he just could never beat anybody cleanly and if all of those gently caress finishes hurts the matches for you, that's a pretty defensible position to have (I really hated the Roadblock finish). But Owens' work in all of those matches, five title defenses in total, was all really great and all worth seeing.
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Chris James 2 posted:Rusev got stuck with poo poo like the Dolph feud and the League of Nations where none of his matches post-Cena really stood out as Must See and then got hurt wasn't league of nations partially payback for him and lana torpedoing the dolph feud
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League of Nations having that much talent and being that lame makes zero sense, but I guess they were just put together to get Roman over, so, whatever.
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Jun 8, 2017 20:13
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VJeff posted:League of Nations having that much talent and being that lame makes zero sense, but I guess they were just put together to get Roman over, so, whatever. the weirdest thing is that it worked
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VJeff posted:League of Nations having that much talent and being that lame makes zero sense, but I guess they were just put together to get Roman over, so, whatever. No that's all of WWE actually.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:the weirdest thing is that it worked You're absolutely right. It totally worked, and then they hosed it all up. I actually forgot that part.
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Swashbucklin' Seth Rollins 
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Stale Saltines posted:Swashbucklin' Seth Rollins randall 'pink' rollins saw dazed and confused too many times
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If you think that you can beat John Cena in a fight your mutual employer has already decided the outcome of then be his guest!!
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quote:Wrestling Observer: An interesting story is that some time back, Mahal had decided he was looking at getting out of wrestling and opening up a Subway sandwich shop and work some real estate Never give up kids. Just eat fresh and get ripped and good things will come to you
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Chris James 2 posted:Rusev got stuck with poo poo like the Dolph feud and the League of Nations where none of his matches post-Cena really stood out as Must See and then got hurt In the past: Kevin Owens was capable of beating John Cena cleanly Today: Kevin Owens is a fat loving loser who can't beat anyone wow why isn't he grabbing the brass ring he should be stone cold over with this incredible booking where he's fat and stupid and loses all the time unless Chris Jericho saved him and now just loses because Chris Jericho is dead (RIP Big Chris)
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