disjoe posted:Trump needs to just not create joinder with the courts, they're all admiralty anyway The piss tapes have gold fringe.
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Rigel posted:A few of us roughly know how it works, but for the most part on a question like this without an obvious answer, we shrug and wait for the senate parliamentarian to rule. Yeah, I was just hoping for something more in depth regarding the "and in the past some abortion stuff didn't fly" part of the article. As best I can tell, that was referring to a budgetary effort to bar any federal funding of any abortion, during the 90s.
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I was a pretty big nothing matterer, but Trump sitting furious in a room alone not knowing who he can trust is pretty much the most I could have hoped for since he got elected. Crossing my fingers that someday I'll get to see Ivanka publicly renounce him to try and save her image (and fail) for the most satisfying Et tu, Brute? moment possible.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:God drat you Lin Manuel Miranda Cold, dude At least call me chernow
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Jun 8, 2017 21:49
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Dodd-Frank killed in the house just now Start hiding gold bars in your mattress again.
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Jun 8, 2017 21:51
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Jaxyon posted:I'm guessing you're a dude because I shared that article on my FB and it's already been reshared several times by women who are like "this is spot on" wait, what? Your select group of facebook friends shared something you like and your accusing him of not examining bias?
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Jun 8, 2017 21:51
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A new tax that all Republicans can agree with!
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Jun 8, 2017 21:52
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La Brea Carpet posted:Dodd-Frank killed in the house just now What are the odds it passes Senate?
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La Brea Carpet posted:Dodd-Frank killed in the house just now Dear Democrats: please, please, please jump on this. It's so important that you take them to task for this. Major props to Kamala Harris for already doing so btw.
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Burning_Monk posted:wait, what? Your select group of facebook friends shared something you like and your accusing him of not examining bias? I literally said that's not proof of anything but given the subject and the response maybe he should. I wasn't the only one even in this thread who said something like this.
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eviltastic posted:Yeah, I was just hoping for something more in depth regarding the "and in the past some abortion stuff didn't fly" part of the article. As best I can tell, that was referring to a budgetary effort to bar any federal funding of any abortion, during the 90s. Some things are clear, like you can't pass a new criminal law or name a national monument in a reconciliation bill, because it has nothing to do with the budget. The theory further goes that items that masquerade as a budget item but are really a political issue that has nothing to do with the budget shouldn't be allowed, but where do you draw the line? At some level, every budget decision is political, when can you say "oh COME ON, thats not really budget, thats too far!" I don't really know, its really just the parliamentarian's call. (at any time a majority of the Senate can overrule the parliamentarian to create or modify precedent, but thats extreme and rare)
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Ballz posted:What are the odds it passes Senate? 0.1%
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La Brea Carpet posted:Dodd-Frank killed in the house just now loving hell.
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La Brea Carpet posted:Dodd-Frank killed in the house just now The bill, known as the Financial Choice Act, has little chance of passing in its current form through the Senate, where Republican leadership would need to attract Democratic support.
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Ballz posted:What are the odds it passes Senate? They would have to completely destroy the filibuster.
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haveblue posted:The bill, known as the Financial Choice Act, has little chance of passing in its current form through the Senate, where Republican leadership would need to attract Democratic support. New Jerseyites, get on the phone and start bombarding Cory Booker's office with calls. The Dems can't allow a single defection on any version of this bill, even if it's significantly reworked. (which it, of course, will be)
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haveblue posted:The bill, known as the Financial Choice Act, has little chance of passing in its current form through the Senate, where Republican leadership would need to attract Democratic support. Normally, I'd probably sound like I'm saying 'nothing matters' at this point, but I do agree with this. This isn't what they're pushing through reconciliation so they need some democrats on this. More than the amount of DINOs that are in congress so they can't even sway enough people, hopefully. Just need to call your D senator and make sure he's ready to filibuster.
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Rigel posted:They would have to completely destroy the filibuster. And if McConnell does that, then the second Dems take the Senate again we enter 10000 years of unimpeded liberal darkness, right?
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TARDISman posted:And if McConnell does that, then the second Dems take the Senate again we enter 10000 years of unimpeded liberal darkness, right? At this point, I'll accept 100 years of liberal darkness
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Covok posted:Normally, I'd probably sound like I'm saying 'nothing matters' at this point, but I do agree with this. This isn't what they're pushing through reconciliation so they need some democrats on this. More than the amount of DINOs that are in congress so they can't even sway enough people, hopefully. Just need to call your D senator and make sure he's ready to filibuster. Not just fillibuster, but point out 'Hey these fuckers are literally trying to cause the Great Depression again.'
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TARDISman posted:And if McConnell does that, then the second Dems take the Senate again we enter 10000 years of unimpeded liberal darkness, right? Yes. It's much harder to take benefits away than to get them on the board, so making things slow is the GOPs best hope of preventing libertopia. McConnell is smart enough to know this. I hope Schumer is too, and gets rid of the filibuster anyways.
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TARDISman posted:And if McConnell does that, then the second Dems take the Senate again we enter 10000 years of unimpeded liberal darkness, right? it would take a trump piss tape that included pence and half of congress to make the senate blue in 2018 the hope is that the house goes blue and dems can pass fun 1000-years-of-liberal-enlightenment bills like what the republican house did under obama (remember how they repealed obamacare roughly one billion times?)
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"well yeah, but that guy was smart and should have known better, Trump is clearly an imbecile, huge difference" https://twitter.com/adamliptak/status/872835418194157568
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Majorian posted:New Jerseyites, get on the phone and start bombarding Cory Booker's office with calls. The Dems can't allow a single defection on any version of this bill, even if it's significantly reworked. (which it, of course, will be) republicans didn't even pretend to pass something that might be able to get a vote from Democrats, they just went full on dodd-frank repeal rather than just a convenient package of bank regulation modifications that's almost as good but doesn't formally destroy dodd-frank
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Since this thread is still not called USPOL, I'll go ahead and put this here. The exit polls are horrible for the conservatives in the UK. If this holds they will either have a tiny majority or a hung parliament. They called for early elections because they thought they could expand on their majority. https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/872921807384440834
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Jun 8, 2017 22:05
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Rigel posted:Since this thread is still not called USPOL, I'll go ahead and put this here. The exit polls are horrible for the conservatives in the UK. If this holds they will either have a tiny majority or a hung parliament. They called for early elections because they thought they could expand on their majority. Plus in a hung parliament (meaning, no party has a majority on its own) its probably easier for labor to assemble a majority considering the Liberal Democrats got butchered like hogs for joining the Tories.
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Rigel posted:Since this thread is still not called USPOL, I'll go ahead and put this here. The exit polls are horrible for the conservatives in the UK. If this holds they will either have a tiny majority or a hung parliament. They called for early elections because they thought they could expand on their majority. I know nothing of the UK other than the Republicans are left-leaning there and the Tories want to kill babies. What I do know is that the "0" for UKIP is good.
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Rigel posted:Since this thread is still not called USPOL, I'll go ahead and put this here. The exit polls are horrible for the conservatives in the UK. If this holds they will either have a tiny majority or a hung parliament. They called for early elections because they thought they could expand on their majority.
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Rigel posted:Since this thread is still not called USPOL, I'll go ahead and put this here. The exit polls are horrible for the conservatives in the UK. If this holds they will either have a tiny majority or a hung parliament. They called for early elections because they thought they could expand on their majority. WTF happened? Last I heard they were still expecting a landslide, if smaller than what they had been.
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Jaxyon posted:WTF happened? Last I heard they were still expecting a landslide, if smaller than what they had been. Theresa May hosed up literally everything she touched for a couple of months and turned out to be a lovely campaigner.
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Jaxyon posted:WTF happened? Last I heard they were still expecting a landslide, if smaller than what they had been. It turns out Theresa May, a dead-ringer for the Penguin's sister in Batman Returns, is a really bad campaigner.
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Well that's pretty LOL because she called this election.
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Rigel posted:Since this thread is still not called USPOL, I'll go ahead and put this here. The exit polls are horrible for the conservatives in the UK. If this holds they will either have a tiny majority or a hung parliament. They called for early elections because they thought they could expand on their majority. Just earlier today I was seeing stories that the May and the Tories would have the largest margin since Thatcher or something. Wonder where all that went. Polling must really be poo poo over there.
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Rigel posted:Since this thread is still not called USPOL, I'll go ahead and put this here. The exit polls are horrible for the conservatives in the UK. If this holds they will either have a tiny majority or a hung parliament. They called for early elections because they thought they could expand on their majority. I don't understand this. That's May in the middle, right? With the biggest numbers? And the poll says they have the largest party? Someone explain.
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Polls in the UK have historically been loving terrible, but the exit polls seemed to have always been close. https://twitter.com/aedwardslevy/status/872922805477801984
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Jaxyon posted:WTF happened? Last I heard they were still expecting a landslide, if smaller than what they had been. Theresa May said they should suspend human rights laws in order to combat terrorism, among other idiotic things such as banning secure software from use in the UK.
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ReidRansom posted:Just earlier today I was seeing stories that the May and the Tories would have the largest margin since Thatcher or something. Wonder where all that went. Polling must really be poo poo over there. Its all exit polls right now, nothing final. But if the numbers hold May is turbo hosed.
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If that holds then that would be another European country (in addition to France) that has held an election since Trump and said, "hm nope gently caress all of that, actually" To the degree that I can't help but wonder whether Trump's election here has passively influenced a leftward swing everywhere else
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