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MiddleOne posted:http://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/dnipsos-raset-fortsatter-for-m/ Indeed it looks that way. Although based on pollofpolls.se it looks like M have reached the bottom of their support and considering that Annie Lööf is going to have to explain how she want a coalition without S and support from SD, I believe that M will recover somewhat. But that will only be internal shuffling within Alliansen. It is kinda interesting how L have been completly unable to profit anything on Ms change of heart. KD seems to be on a somewhat upward trajectory. The interesting thing is what happens if MP loses their seats. The current coalition is then dead and I have no idea what the alternatives are. Alliansen is probably the most realistic coalition in that case, since any coalition with V is DOA. KD losing their seats is probably less worse for Alliansen. Gambling on predictit.org seems like the only rational way of handling next years election.
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I will literally vote with a picture of goatse gently caress this piece of poo poo mess
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L is not getting any of the M voters because: A: C is the only party short of V not to buckle on immigration and nationalism and well tradtional M voters don't exactly swing for V historically. L changed their tune right around when everyone else did so when Batra med her speil this winter that really only left C on the table as the anti-tax/anti-regulation liberal alternative. B: Jan Björklund Also, my money is on S shunting V and MP to the side in favour of C and L after the election. C will never work with SD or V so that is pretty much the only option left if things keep heading in todays direction. SD doesn't seem to be realizing this yet but C and V continually increasing their share of the vote at the expense of KD, M and MP is really bad for them.
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# ? May 24, 2017 18:11 |
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MiddleOne posted:L is not getting any of the M voters because: A fair summary I agree with on most points. V haven't been increasing that much though, but that is minor. We might have a repeat of 2014 when they lost 1% to Fi. L+C+S is probably going to be bad for L&C, especially the way S have switched around in immigration but also in everything else. Not that S cares, they are used to eating their collaborators. Very high odds alternative: S+SD, which is less unlikely than one would think considering the voter behavior in LO and SDs economic politics.
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# ? May 24, 2017 18:25 |
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Yeah, in terms of government infrastructure, Greece is kind of lacking.
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# ? May 24, 2017 22:20 |
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MiddleOne posted:L is not getting any of the M voters because: So S is going to go Swedish Third Way? Plus what is MP even thinking these days?
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Lima posted:V's attempt to spin any opposition to this as "OH YOU MUST BE PRO CHILD BRIDES HUUUUH?" is so transparent and should be ripped to shreds. They're going to get away with it, just like they're going to get away with not registering the e-mail from her jurists warning her, as required by law. Edit: Like I said, http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/politik/df-freder-stoejberg-ulovlig-instruks-seks-dage-foer-samraad SplitSoul fucked around with this message at 20:18 on May 26, 2017 |
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In Norway news it looks like Støre may have hosed up a bit.
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# ? May 25, 2017 19:02 |
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richie mcrich does normal rich person things i mean i'm not the man's biggest fan, but this kind of issue is pretty much just a guy being hit as an individual for doing something that everyone in his situation does it's a lovely thing to do, but the solution is tighter regulation on a societal level, not individualised polemic
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# ? May 26, 2017 04:33 |
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Also I think his stake in the project was like 3%? This isn't really up there with his other flaws as a politician.
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# ? May 26, 2017 12:03 |
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And only those naive or wilfully ignorant are surprised by this. http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/samhalle/a/78r6K/tre-av-fyra-ensamkommande-som-alderstestats-ar-over-18-ar Extrapolating to the group of 35k alone-coming arriving in 2015, we have 26k people who have given their age falsely. It is interesting how the public debate follows Flashback with a delay of 5-10 years. Edit: Extrapolating this ratio to the cost of reception we end up with 0.75*26 billion SEK = 19.5 billion SEK. Which is roughly 33% of UNHCRs budget. Money well spent indeed. Cardiac fucked around with this message at 14:45 on May 30, 2017 |
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Cardiac posted:Extrapolating to the group of 35k alone-coming arriving in 2015, we have 26k people who have given their age falsely. ...Uhh, no. They obviously don't test people whose ages have not been called into question, as doing so would be wasteful. In fact, the article quotes a Migration Agency process manager twice saying that the data is not representative of the the general unaccompanied minor population, the majority of which is in all likelihood underage. Are you daft or just dishonest? EDIT: From the DnD Picture Thread my girlfriend is Legos fucked around with this message at 17:48 on May 30, 2017 |
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Cardiac posted:Extrapolating to the group of 35k alone-coming arriving in 2015, we have 26k people who have given their age falsely. How can you come from a natural science background and understand probability this badly? 3/4ths of the a data sample specifically selected due to MigV having qualms about their age. It's not generalizable in the slightest. Did you just not actually read the full heading here because I'm honestly baffled. MiddleOne fucked around with this message at 16:14 on May 30, 2017 |
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Vårt Land is a lovely Christian Norwegian newspaper. Probably the last place I expected to see Dickbutt.
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MiddleOne posted:How can you come from a natural science background and understand probability this badly? 3/4ths of the a data sample specifically selected due to MigV having qualms about their age. It's not generalizable in the slightest.
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my girlfriend is Legos posted:...Uhh, no. They obviously don't test people whose ages have not been called into question, as doing so would be wasteful. In fact, the article quotes a Migration Agency process manager twice saying that the data is not representative of the the general unaccompanied minor population, the majority of which is in all likelihood underage. They only tested those that volunteered. Also, how can he say it is representative if they haven't tested them? Then it is just guesswork. The numbers as such are not surprising and similar to ratios seen for age testing in Denmark and Norway. The numbers of underage also drastically shrunk upon the start of the age testing. Or to put it like this, 40% of all underage seekers In EU in 2015 applied for asylum in Sweden. As they are rational and informed beings there is a clear logic for that.
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# ? May 30, 2017 18:04 |
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Cardiac posted:They only tested those that volunteered. You would look very slightly less stupid if you didn't contradict yourself in a single post.
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Cerebral Bore posted:You would look very slightly less stupid if you didn't
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Cardiac posted:They only tested those that volunteered. Right, out of a superset composed specifically of individually suspected non-minors. Cardiac posted:Also, how can he say it is representative if they haven't tested them? Then it is just guesswork. You're the one claiming it's representative. The burden of proof is on you.
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# ? May 30, 2017 18:49 |
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Oh look the governments big poll is in: http://www.statistikdatabasen.scb.se/sq/31959 C 11,3 L 5,0 M 18,1 KD 3,2 S 31,1 V 6,3 MP 4,5 SD 18,4 Övriga 2,2 Emphasis is mine. Brownshirts are the second largest party, oh the joy! We could actually get a majority government with S in the lead if people just got their loving act together. M/S/C or S/C/L. It's that or we get another MP/S/V collaboration, and im not so sure thats the way to go. I want a majority government and the breakup of the Alliance as a political bloc.
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 09:52 |
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On one hand, the bloc system leads to weak minority governments and a lot of flailing as people try to circumnavigate SD. On the other hand, S allying with L/C would be the final, public acknowledgement that social democracy as we know/remember it is dead. Then again that's just acknowledging reality as it is so maybe we might as well welcome it.
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Beeswax posted:On one hand, the bloc system leads to weak minority governments and a lot of flailing as people try to circumnavigate SD. On the other hand, S allying with L/C would be the final, public acknowledgement that social democracy as we know/remember it is dead. Then again that's just acknowledging reality as it is so maybe we might as well welcome it. Oh I agree, But we are in a situation where a parliamentary majority is an absolute necessity. We have a runaway housing market, a crumbling EU and a whole host of other problems that need solving. I'd prefer a pure S government with budgetary backing in parliament and enough assurance of "bipartisan" (to use an american term) deals on migration/housing and energy. Eitherway, I may have grown to hate MP with a passion but I'm glad they're not sub 4% (KD on the other hand...). Postorder Trollet89 fucked around with this message at 10:37 on Jun 1, 2017 |
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Birgitta Ohlsson is looking to oust Jan Björklund as party leader. The election is shaping to sure be something.
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Björklund is incompetent and is getting more and more derailed.
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Svartvit posted:Björklund is incompetent and is getting more and more derailed. His competition is Fridolin, Busch and Batra. I think he's doing fine.
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Could be worse, you could have Social Democrats that consistently voted with Liberals and Conservatives while simultaneously courting the brownshirts. Give it a few years. Now Inger Støjberg is claiming that it was just a "press release" and not an actual instruction, despite using that exact word numerous times in response to opposition criticism and in her reply to the Ombudsman. At the same time, she claims to have instructed her officials to keep obeying the law, yet a written record of this curiously doesn't exist.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXhGgAZc4z8
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http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2017/06/daily-chart?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/ed/The Economist posted:"Their research leads to two conclusions. First, tax evasion is extremely concentrated. The average Scandinavian household paid around 3% too little in taxes in 2006; the richest 1% of households, with net assets of at least $2m, underpaid by around 10%. The truly rich, though, behave truly differently. The top 0.01% of households, with net assets of over $40m, short-changed the taxman by a whopping 30%." Can we eat the rich yet
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Retarded Goatee posted:http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2017/06/daily-chart?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/ed/ Not without first leaving the EU.
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Another month, another new anti-immigration party. This time a lefty one - http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/politik/forfatter-stifter-indvandrerkritisk-venstrefloejsparti
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Lima posted:Another month, another new anti-immigration party. It's called National Socialism. Still amused at the Liberals' damage control regarding Inger Støjberg. This is the same party that let a convicted child rapist run for office again.
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Faen som jeg hater denne jævla regionsreformen dem har stemt igjennom. Unødvendig og historieløst (og det kommer sikkert til å være som de fleste andre sentraliseringstiltak i Norge at det bidrar til å flytte offentlige tjenester enda lenger vekk fra folk som ikke bor i byene og at bygda gradvis avfolkes). Noe faens dritt. Håper at H og FrP faller ut av regjeringa til valget og at de patetiske idiotene i V faller under sperregrensa og bare legger seg ned og dør ("bare starten på noe større" dra til helvete, Trine). Trenger kanskje snart en ny write-up om norske partier og politikk før valget. Må nevne at jeg føler meg langt mer partisk før dette valget enn det forrige, på en veldig gubbete måte. Randarkman fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Jun 9, 2017 |
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Fraflytting fra bygda betyr flere folk bor tett. Konsekvensen er redusert privattransport til fordel for kollektiv, klimasaken seirer selv i Trumps tid. På nedsiden vil det føre til nedbygget landbruk med økt fare for sult ved forstyrrelser i verdenshandelen. Oppsiden er at økt matimport som overfører midler til fattigere områder som må til for å oppnå en historisk rejustering a velstand mellom vesten og resten. Oppbrudd av historiske grenser oppleves traumatisk ofte men er innbyggeres psykologiske innstilning til linjer på kartet vektig versus hensyn som budsjetteffektivitet og standardisering av offentlig tjenester? I værste fall nuller fordeler og ulemper seg ut.
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Randarkman posted:Faen som jeg hater denne jævla regionsreformen dem har stemt igjennom. Unødvendig og historieløst (og det kommer sikkert til å være som de fleste andre sentraliseringstiltak i Norge at det bidrar til å flytte offentlige tjenester enda lenger vekk fra folk som ikke bor i byene og at bygda gradvis avfolkes). Noe faens dritt. Håper at H og FrP faller ut av regjeringa til valget og at de patetiske idiotene i V faller under sperregrensa og bare legger seg ned og dør ("bare starten på noe større" dra til helvete, Trine). Ja takk til ny write-up, tror valget i år kan bli meget spennende. Vi trenger noe jævlig å få sparka ut klovnene i Frp, og om Høyre går med i dragsuget er det vel fortjent. Baudolino posted:Fraflytting fra bygda betyr flere folk bor tett. Konsekvensen er redusert privattransport til fordel for kollektiv, klimasaken seirer selv i Trumps tid. Det er også et spørsmål om skala. Hvis man sammenligner utslipp fra privattransport i tynt befolkede regioner kontra i tett befolkede områder, vil jeg tro utslipp totalt sett er større i byene og dette er den eneste viktige faktoren. Klart, det er også et poeng at privatbilisme trengs på landet, og ikke trengs i like stor grad i by - nytten er en helt annen. Med tanke på jordbruk, kan vi samtidig ignorere CO2-budsjettet for landbruket, for der har vi faktisk intet alternativ. Om noe demonsterer dette det mangelfulle kollektivtilbudet i tynt befolkede strøk, men heldigvis har vi privatisering så vi kan legge ned/forverre et allerede utilstrekkelig kollektivtilbud. Hei, her er en ide. Hva om vi gjør offentlig transport skattefinansiert? Gjør det gratis å pendle korte distanser med buss, tog og t-bane/trikk så skal vi nok se at CO2-utslippene raser nedover, og at privatbilismen reduseres voldsomt. Matimport er ikke en oppside. Vi har teknologi og ressurser til et landbruksløft, der vi gjør landbruket til en attraktiv, miljøvennlig og moderne næring gjennom økt bruk av biodrivstoff, elektrisitet og automasjon. Vi kan øke matproduksjon, få ned priser ved sterk regulering av matvaregigantene og legge CO2-tariff og reisetariff på matvarer som gjør reiseavstand til en sentral faktor i matkostnaden, som igjen gir økt konkurransekraft for norsk landbruk og sparer miljøet. Hva angår sentralisering av offentlige tjenester er det verdt å huske at fellesmiljø, lokal kunnskap og lokale hensyn er ting som har sterk påvirkning på utøvelsen av offentlige funksjoner. Når "nærpolitireform" flytter politiet lengre unna tynt befolkede strøk og kommuner skal fjernstyres fra andre siden av fylket mister man ikke bare kunnskap, publikumskontakt og perspektiv på behov og nytteeffekt, men man mister den demokratiske legitimiteten offentlig saksbehandling trenger for å respekteres av folket. Vi har i Norge en lang og sterk tradisjon av demokratisk og offentlig nærhet, som er mye av årsaken til at det offentlige i Norge har nytt den tillit det har. På den andre siden har jeg til gode å få forklart i detalj nøyaktig hvordan sentralisering og massive organisasjoner forbedrer tilbudet til den enkelte fra det offentlige. Er NAV et kroneksempel der? Offentlig vergemålsordning som før var kommunal er nå organisert gjennom Fylkesmannen, og det er et evig kaos. Politi? Er politiet bedre når man ikke lenger kan dra til det lokale lensmannskontoret for å få ordnet den myriaden med offentlige forvaltningsmessige funksjoner? Hva med å kjenne lensmannen godt nok til å gidde å si ifra når man vet at noe feil skjer? Det er en sterk egeninteresse blant politikere i å sentralisere offentlige tilbud, for da sentraliserer man offentlige arbeidsplasser til en sentral tettbebyggelse som igjen sørger for et godt økonomisk grunnlag for et boligmarked som igjen øker priser som igjen gir ringvirkninger og positive effekter for politikerne, både i privatøkonomien, støttespillere og "vekst" i velstand/eiendomsformue. Bare se på reaksjonene når man foreslår å flytte noen enkle forvaltningsoppgaver ut av Oslo? Politikerne hisser seg opp som lemen. Det er et kraftig hint om at det ikke er tjenestetilbud og kvalitet etc. etc. som alene styrer disse vurderingene. Kort oppsummert: Nice piece of fish fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Jun 12, 2017 |
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https://www.svd.se/sverige-har-fatt-fler-problemomraden Problems problems... Why are are the Swedes unable to solve it? Is the Swedish welfare-state dead? What is going on in Sweden? The Swedish Democrats got zero power so I was sure everything was going just fine. Fakta: Särskilt utsatta områden 1. Alby/Botkyrka NY 2. Fittja/Botkyrka NY 3. Hallunda/Norsborg/Botkyrka 4. Husby 5. Rinkeby/Tensta 6. Ronna/Geneta/Lina (Södertälje) 7. Bergsjön 8. Biskopsgården 9. Gårdsten 10. Hammarkullen 11. Hjällbo 12. Lövgärdet 13. Tynnered/Grevegården/Opaltorget NY 14. Hässleholm/Hulta (Borås) NY 15. Norrby (Borås) NY 16. Rosengård (Malmö) 17. Södra Sofielund (Malmö) 18. Nydala/Hermodsdal/Lindängen NY 19. Araby (Växjö) 20. Karlslund (Landskrona) NY 21. Skäggetorp (Linköping) 22. Gottsunda (Uppsala) NY 23. Vivalla (Örebro) Källa: Dagens Nyheter
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Heinz Hynkel posted:https://www.svd.se/sverige-har-fatt-fler-problemomraden Not even Nyheter Idag is ready to back up your fantasies. Let that sink in. https://nyheteridag.se/trots-rubrikerna-om-fler-sarskilt-utsatta-omraden-har-inte-blivit-varre-i-fororterna/
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Beeswax posted:Not even Nyheter Idag is ready to back up your fantasies. Let that sink in. I am sorry but are Svenska Dagbladet and Dagens Nyheter fake news?
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Is Nyheter Idag a trash right wing rag? My poo poo head cousin-in-law likes to send me google translated articles from them in an effort to get my wife and I to move back to Oklahoma.
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Heinz Hynkel posted:I am sorry but are Svenska Dagbladet and Dagens Nyheter fake news? Svenska Dagbladet posted:Inrikesminister Anders Ygeman (S) tycker inte att man kan dra slutsatsen att läget förvärrats på grund av att de särskilt utsatta områdena blir fler. Flera av de åtta nya borde ha klassats som särskilt utsatta redan 2015, enligt polisen. Dagens Nyheter posted:DN har tagit del av hemligstämplat material från Noa:s underrättelseavdelning som visar att listan utökats från 15 till 23. De åtta bostadsområden som tillkommit är: It's an entirely administrative classification for bureaucratic purposes and they simply changed their criteria for the classification. It's not so much that they're fake as that you're just bad at Swedish and/or reading. DN is kinda to blame here for being obtuse but the interview in Nyheter Idag clarifies what is really going on. MiddleOne fucked around with this message at 09:32 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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Dirk Pitt posted:Is Nyheter Idag a trash right wing rag? My poo poo head cousin-in-law likes to send me google translated articles from them in an effort to get my wife and I to move back to Oklahoma. Is an """alternative""" media site run by a libertarian, but complicating matters is the fact that one columnist is Markus Allard, communist and leader of Örebro partiet. Make of that what you will, it's certainly not avpixlat.
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