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Magic Rabbit Hat
Nov 4, 2006

Just follow along if you don't wanna get neutered.

Papal Mainframe posted:

Probably going to see some Vindi comps :v:

Also, I'm intrigued by the 3 bans instead of 2 for the finals. How much of an impact will that have on the ability to ban out comps?

Not as many as there were Bhaalgorns last year. Cheap Bhaals could fit into any comp on the sheer strength of its neut power. Vindicator needs all eight slots filled with guns take advantage of its damage.

You'll probably see a lot more Daredevils and Vigilants than Vindicators, but the real big change is letting people use T2 combat drones. Expect to see lots of antisupport Gilas, Vexors/VNIs, Eos, and Rattlesnake/Dominix comps.

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LemonDrizzle
Mar 28, 2012

neoliberal shithead

Papal Mainframe posted:

How much of an impact will that have on the ability to ban out comps?
It will have a huge impact - teams expecting to run that deep will need much larger setup pools than in previous years.

Papal Mainframe
May 3, 2017

LemonDrizzle posted:

It will have a huge impact - teams expecting to run that deep will need much larger setup pools than in previous years.

Which lends itself to more creativity as we go further as well, which I'm stoked for. That's the part of the AT that intrigues me, coming up with unique comps.

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?
If GSF gets in, I want to see us run a speed-tanking all-Punisher setup.

LemonDrizzle
Mar 28, 2012

neoliberal shithead

Ynglaur posted:

If GSF gets in, I want to see us run a speed-tanking all-Punisher setup.
You're only allowed two ships of each type, so you'd have to think outside the box a little - two punishers, two retributions, and two vengeances would be legal, but then you'd be out of punisher hulls. I suppose you could add a Malice to make seven, but you'd still be three guys short.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Yeah the number of bans is pretty much a huge change for finals. Should be cool.

The Qualifying tournament is kind of nice but holy gently caress doing that only a month out is a bit WTF too. Mostly because I'll be busy doing that for a weekend, on top of the normal AT poo poo video stuff.

Edit -

vvvv How about no, and you just go whine about PL in the other thread.

Mekchu fucked around with this message at 18:21 on May 25, 2017

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!
Can we just skip the whole thing this year and straight up give PL the winner's prize?

Papal Mainframe
May 3, 2017
Yeah I'm looking forward to the tourney. I was too new to properly appreciate the nuances last time, so this one should be cool.

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE
reverse tidi is interesting and a really good sudden death mechanic

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Papal Mainframe posted:

Yeah I'm looking forward to the tourney. I was too new to properly appreciate the nuances last time, so this one should be cool.

The AT is a hard tournament to get into as a newbie. I wish I had the ability to do a newbie stream concurrent with the matches like they do for Dota 2 but broadcasting from a PC Cafe seems more hassle than it's worth.

Moatman
Mar 21, 2014

Because the goof is all mine.

Magic Rabbit Hat posted:

Not as many as there were Bhaalgorns last year. Cheap Bhaals could fit into any comp on the sheer strength of its neut power. Vindicator needs all eight slots filled with guns take advantage of its damage.

You'll probably see a lot more Daredevils and Vigilants than Vindicators, but the real big change is letting people use T2 combat drones. Expect to see lots of antisupport Gilas, Vexors/VNIs, Eos, and Rattlesnake/Dominix comps.

T2 drones are pretty big, yeah. I mean, it was pretty much necessary to deal with how strong Vexor hulls and Guristas ships were this time last year, but going back to allowing tech 2s is definitely gonna shake things up

SugarAddict
Oct 11, 2012
T3 cruiser revamp:
https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/strategic-cruisers-and-you/

Notable things:

New faction-specific build components sourced from WH space
Dual tank bonuses for the Loki
Some power reductions to long range combat alongside the nullification subsystem
An increase in signature radius and mass
Allowing rigs to be freely removed from Strategic Cruisers without destroying them

Moving from 5 subsystems to 4, with subsystems being moved around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU9VxKhVgaw&t=896s

The Claptain
May 11, 2014

Grimey Drawer

CCP Dev Blog posted:

The players we have selected for the initial round of this focus group are:

Asher Elias
...

Goonspeed.

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE
is it sad i only recognize like five names from that list

FruitNYogurtParfait
Mar 29, 2006

Sion lied. Deadtear died for our sins. #VengeanceForDeadtear
#PunGateNeverForget
#ModLivesMatter
aside from asher the only names i recognize are abject retards

iospace
Jan 19, 2038




Nvm

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE

FruitNYogurtParfait posted:

aside from asher the only names i recognize are abject retards

same

Panamaniac
Jun 18, 2007

HEROES NEVER DIE
So I logged in for the first time in a long while and learned we're no longer around vfk.
Oops.

GrandTheftAutism
Dec 24, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
I bought a bunch of skins recently, now I have golden Porpoises and Procurers.

There's finally some decent skins for Gallente ships, too.

Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008

Dalael posted:

Can we just skip the whole thing this year and straight up give PL the winner's prize?

They don't win often enough to justify that.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
ICYMI this year for ATXV CCP have changed things up by implementing a Feeder Round (also known as a qualifier tournament) where 56 different alliances will battle it out to earn one of 8 spots in the main Alliance Tournament 15 bracket.

The Feeder Round will operate as follows per the blog post:

* Round 1: 56 teams, with the 28 teams that win progressing to the Alliance Tournament
* Round 2: 28 teams, with the 14 teams that lose being eliminated
* Round 3: 14 teams, with the 6 teams that lose being eliminated (2 teams will receive a bye)
* Round 4: 8 teams, with the 4 teams that win progressing to the Alliance Tournament

As with last year, we (EVE_NT) will be providing coverage not only for the first weekend of the main Alliance Tournament but we'll also be providing coverage of the Feeder Round as well. Coverage will be on June 10th & 11th starting at 1300 UTC

For a full breakdown of the Feeder Round bracket you can visit http://arena.eve-nt.uk which will be updated as soon as possible after a match concludes.

Round 1's Bracket can be found here: https://arena.eve-nt.uk/tournament/at-xv-feeder-round-1/

Round 2's bracket will be updated as soon as Round 1 concludes and will take place on June 11th.

The following teams will be competing in the Feeder Round

* An Alliance Has No Name
* Army of New Eden
* Asteria Concord.
* Badfellas Inc.
* Best Intentions.
* Blades of Grass (with Demonic Wheat Pineapple)
* Bright Side of Death
* Brotherhood of Spacers
* Brothers in Arms Alliance
* ChaosTheory.
* Circle-Of-Two
* Digital Vendetta
* End of Life
* Fidelas Constans
* Ghost Legion.
* Good at this Game
* Goonswarm Federation
* Heirs of Nothing (with I Aim To Misbehave)
* Hole Control
* Iron Armada
* It Must Be Jelly Cause Jam Don't Shake
* IT'S ONLY PIXELS
* Legio Astartes Arcanum
* LowSechnaya Sholupen
* Men with Fancy Hats
* MOIST.
* MORDUS ANGELS
* No Handlebars.
* Of Sound Mind
* Pen Is Out
* Project.Mayhem.
* PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
* R.E.V.O.L.U.T.I.O.N
* RAZOR Alliance
* Red Alliance
* Rejection of Sovereignty
* Requiem Eternal
* Rote Kapelle (with Rote Works)
* Red vs Blue
* Salt Farmers
* SAMURAI SOUL'd OUT
* senseless intentions
* Shadow Cartel
* Sleeping Dragons
* Snuffed Out
* Solar Fleet
* Solyaris Chtonium
* Spaceship Bebop
* Spectre Fleet Alliance
* Templis CALSF
* Test Alliance Please Ignore
* The Explicit Alliance
* The Society For Unethical Treatment Of Sleepers
* The-Culture
* WAFFLES.
* Wormhole Society

As it stands just now, there will be 2 Arenas active on Thunderdome and EVE_NT will be streaming the action from one of them over at https://www.twitch.tv/eve_nt_tv.


OK thanks for reading this sperg post.

Papal Mainframe
May 3, 2017
Since only one of the arenas is getting streamed (:eng99:) do we know which matches will be on the streamed arena? :ohdear:

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Papal Mainframe posted:

Since only one of the arenas is getting streamed (:eng99:) do we know which matches will be on the streamed arena? :ohdear:

I will ask.

Edit - For the feeders we can do two arenas provided we have someone else with two accounts in the other arena to do the camera stuff we do. No word on which arena or the schedule of matches.

Mekchu fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Jun 9, 2017

SugarAddict
Oct 11, 2012
I think this is worth repeating because there is no other way to word it:


[22:06:03] Amaddin Khema > link to thread?
[22:06:19] Angus McDorble > i think another side of it is just numbers
[22:06:23] M4cD0g > https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=521682
[22:06:32] Angus McDorble > like of course goons develop a huge economy wherever we go...we have a gently caress load of peple wherever we go
[22:07:56] M4cD0g > also, who are these goons mining so much? Like holy poo poo!<br>http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/MER/May_2017/3_mining.value.by.region.png

[22:08:40] Angus McDorble > lots and lots of people in rorquals
[22:08:40] SpaceGump > i mean i mined a couple bil last month not even trying
[22:08:53] Angus McDorble > i think a lot of it is also just people multiboxing rorqs too
[22:09:11] diabel > we are good amazing, thats why we can afford a lots of rorquals
[22:09:14] diabel > rorquals are not free
[22:09:14] M4cD0g > i need to get into mining, this loving ratting and RElic site scanning is doing me no good
[22:09:18] diabel > only pro can buy them
[22:09:26] Angus McDorble > it's also just numbers like i said above
[22:09:31] diabel > from there those numbers
[22:09:35] Angus McDorble > every other alliance is like "ELITE PVP!!!" and "E HONOR!!!!"
[22:09:41] SpaceGump > the problem with mining is you make poo poo until the rorq
[22:09:41] Angus McDorble > and we're like "ALL OF THE BEES"
[22:10:05] Angus McDorble > everybody else is trying to be the best of the best
[22:10:08] Angus McDorble > we're being goons

[22:10:15] Sa'adi > boosted hulk isnt bad
[22:10:23] diabel > dont forget to add 9T Delve bounties +2T from querios its 11T bounties

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
So it seems like the GSF match today for the Feeder Round will be streamed on the EVE_NT Channel


Also here are the ATXV Feeder Round Day 1 Matches (that were streamed by EVE_NT)

Will update as soon as the YT vid is ready

Pen Is Out vs Spaceship Beebop - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA9tdL_6YQs
An Alliance Has No Name vs Blades of Grass - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj6KdSEfPcM
Digital Vendetta vs Fidelas Constans - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icCELW2xohY&t=6s
Wormhole Society vs The-Culture - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcjA4bdd4H4
Army of New Eden vs Samurai Soul'd Out - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mCrm4yLP68
Red vs Blue vs Requiem Eternal - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN1hLbQlV_U
WAFFLES vs The Explicit Alliance - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1AJ66FDS68
Rotte Kapelle vs Hole Control - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrWVecnb-O4
R.E.V.O.L.U.T.I.O.N. vs The Society for Unethical Treatment Of Sleepers - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwaUuKWJKxo
No Handlebars vs Circle-of-Two - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5NzJLE6m_s
Heirs of Nothing vs Templis CALSF - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGF4yQCs9Zo
Spectre Fleet Alliance vs GoonSwarm Federation - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBzUVnVxpWI
Brightside of Death vs Good At This Game - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftptH-M7HD8
Of Sound Mind vs Brotherhood of Spacers -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtFEIMZINYo

Mekchu fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Jun 11, 2017

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Day 2s matches

Shadow Cartel vs Badfellas Inc. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSeqNMZWdF8
MORDUS ANGELS vs LowSechnaya Sholupen - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz8z3s-Zxqg&t=25s
ChaosTheory. vs PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFHSAFbKTno&t=25s
Iron Armada vs MOIST. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nsWPGrMg4M
Legio Astartes Arcanum vs Men with Fancy Hats - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICGdE4M0_B0
Best Intentions. vs Brothers in Arms Alliance - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l01UDchGgo&t=25s
Shadow Cartel vs Spaceship Bebop - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0nip3bdkkM
Iron Armada vs Rote Kapelle - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7LaWLr5wgY
Best Intentions. vs Brotherhood of Spacers - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSnaoIBwEyM
*Red vs Blue vs Shadow Cartel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=praOChBPhXA
*PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS vs Digital Vendetta - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o7tYNm6BYs
*Rote Kapelle vs Circle-Of-Two - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N277wO2GJt0
*Goonswarm Federation vs Best Intentions. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ccg2ndyPwEQ




* = match to determine who from the loser bracket gets into ATXV

Mekchu fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Jun 12, 2017

GrandTheftAutism
Dec 24, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
I watched Iron v Kapelle live, and I think Kapelle's going to be a force to be reckoned with in this tournament.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

ScreamingLlama posted:

I watched Iron v Kapelle live, and I think Kapelle's going to be a force to be reckoned with in this tournament.

Hey look who's back from his extended wank sessions at the laryngitis clinic!

OWLS!
Sep 17, 2009

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Oh hey Rote's still going? neat.

Booley
Apr 25, 2010
I CAN BARELY MAKE IT A WEEK WITHOUT ACTING LIKE AN ASSHOLE
Grimey Drawer

OWLS! posted:

Oh hey Rote's still going? neat.

Somehow. What is dead can never die and all that. A bit of a retirement home, but we're still active enough to do the AT and a few fleets on tq a week.

OWLS!
Sep 17, 2009

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Booley posted:

Somehow. What is dead can never die and all that. A bit of a retirement home, but we're still active enough to do the AT and a few fleets on tq a week.

BRB getting pusk to revive Groon... not.

GrandTheftAutism
Dec 24, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
I bought a month of Omega for my second account (which just ran out). Having another toon to carry your ore while you mine so you don't have to dock up and unload makes a WORLD of difference. I actually stripped an entire belt of omber by myself in a T1-fit Procurer in roughly two hours.

The life of a carebear.

working mom
Jul 8, 2015

ScreamingLlama posted:

I bought a month of Omega for my second account (which just ran out). Having another toon to carry your ore while you mine so you don't have to dock up and unload makes a WORLD of difference. I actually stripped an entire belt of omber by myself in a T1-fit Procurer in roughly two hours.

The life of a carebear.

Pretty sure having 2 procs is quicker than 1 and a hauler

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

ScreamingLlama posted:

I bought a month of Omega for my second account (which just ran out). Having another toon to carry your ore while you mine so you don't have to dock up and unload makes a WORLD of difference. I actually stripped an entire belt of omber by myself in a T1-fit Procurer in roughly two hours.

The life of a carebear.

Whisper it from the mountaintops, brother!

Syndic Thrass
Nov 10, 2011

Landsknecht posted:

PL also got hosed by server/internet issues; AT14 is hardly a good example.

I think it would be interesting if CCP had given out a lot more AT ships, so they'd be more available and less costly.

I heard y'all got rolled in like the first round to FA or some poo poo this year lmao

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Syndic Thrass posted:

I heard y'all got rolled in like the first round to FA or some poo poo this year lmao

they won't get a top 3 finish even after the guys in the finals get banned for collusion :roflolmao:

Syndic Thrass
Nov 10, 2011
Oh poo poo wrong thread: see you in the posting thunderdome of the badthread

Syndic Thrass fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Aug 21, 2017

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Wrong thread?

Syndic Thrass
Nov 10, 2011
Sry

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Bell_
Sep 3, 2006

Tiny Baltimore
A billion light years away
A goon's posting the same thing
But he's already turned to dust
And the shitpost we read
Is a billion light-years old
A ghost just like the rest of us
The NY Post weighs in on the Alliance Tournament meta

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