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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Gregory Campbell the man that once tried to ban ouija boards through parliament

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Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

kustomkarkommando posted:

Only one of those are still DUP MPs :colbert:

I don't know how you can do a run down of DUP awfulness and exclude Gregory Campbell, the worst man

https://youtu.be/509px_eob8A

I think he's probably the worst person in parliament now that Philip Davies is out.

kustomkarkommando posted:

Gregory Campbell the man that once tried to ban ouija boards through parliament

That really curries my yoghurt.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Gregory Campbell the man that once successfully passed a motion to block Kia from naming a car Provo as he said it glorified terrorism

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


kustomkarkommando posted:

Gregory Campbell the man that once successfully passed a motion to block Kia from naming a car Provo as he said it glorified terrorism

:psyduck:

Where do you find these people? and who the gently caress (re-)elects them?

madey
Sep 17, 2007

I saved the Olympics singlehandedly

Anime_Otaku posted:

It's going to be a battle, if Scottish Labour broke away and set themselves as a pro independence party that might win some of us over, but as it is I'm SNP until independence is achieved, and I'm far from alone in that. This result is really a product of realpolitik, the Tories are not really so popular in my view, but I'm in West Dunbartonshire, which returned Martin Docherty to WM again after being strongly Labour (the MSP is Labour's Jackie Bailie still) prior to the referendum. Quite honestly as long as Labour keeps voting with the Tories in Westminster, they don't have much chance.

When you say voting with the tories do you mean actual votes that have happened or a likely position against another referendum for Scotland?

I can see that a safe SNP seat voter would be unmoved but I would like to know how a SNP voter in a constituency that went Tory feels this morning.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Gregory Campbell the man that once condemned the Simpsons for mentioning the IRA

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
Never mind a bridge to the province, have the DUP considered an Ulstunnel/Eirostar type plan to link with HS2?

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



jBrereton posted:

You reckon we'll go the month without a fresh election? This DUP thing is going to be intolerable for a whole number of people.


Seem to remember hearing someone on the BBC, a snarky tory who kept his seat, having a go at the chair of the thing congratulating him on his 11th (?) consecutive election coverage, and that he was looking forward to the 12th before the end of the year

I don't reckon the tories will stick to this 5 year term, they're going for another before the year is out.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World
From the outside looking in, Tories are clearly vermin and their tears look delicious... but what will it take for Labour to actually win outright?

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I suppose Boris is most likely to replace May.

The only feasible alternative I can see is Davis.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

sean10mm posted:

From the outside looking in, Tories are clearly vermin and their tears look delicious... but what will it take for Labour to actually win outright?
That's a very good question. Doing this, again, but from this position, basically. Lot of seats taken or held on a hair's breadth.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

sean10mm posted:

From the outside looking in, Tories are clearly vermin and their tears look delicious... but what will it take for Labour to actually win outright?

Another election at this rate lol

NewMars
Mar 10, 2013

sean10mm posted:

From the outside looking in, Tories are clearly vermin and their tears look delicious... but what will it take for Labour to actually win outright?

Another election.

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



sean10mm posted:

From the outside looking in, Tories are clearly vermin and their tears look delicious... but what will it take for Labour to actually win outright?

The death of rupert murdoch and the dissolution of news corp

El Pollo Blanco
Jun 12, 2013

by sebmojo

sean10mm posted:

From the outside looking in, Tories are clearly vermin and their tears look delicious... but what will it take for Labour to actually win outright?

Proportional representation, basically.

Kokoro Wish
Jul 23, 2007

Post? What post? Oh wow.
I had nothing to do with THAT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsGVghRBdKI

Reveilled
Apr 19, 2007

Take up your rifles

Junior G-man posted:

If Sturgeon hadn't called the second referendum but just stuck to anti-austerity, anti-Tory campaigning this election, I doubt she'd have lost half the seats.

It's the first big-scale fuckup she's made in a while now.

I'm hearing rather the opposite analysis is taking place in some SNP circles this morning (parents are both members). Some in the party are of the view that the real thing which caused them to lose seats was people not turning up to vote, as turnout was down in scotland while being up everywhere else. And so the independence fundamentalists are arguing that the issue was not SNP candidates talking about a second referendum, it was SNP candidates downplaying the referendum in the mainstream media (think of all the times you heard an SNP spokesperson say "we're not the ones obsessed with the referendum"), which meant that indy-only voters didn't bother turning up.

The SNP have been very disciplined for a long time now, I wonder if this might be the first re-emergence of the rift between the fundamentalists and gradualists.

Jeherrin
Jun 7, 2012

madey posted:

I would like to know how a SNP voter in a constituency that went Tory feels this morning.

Like an idiot, I hope. Like someone who's just realising that there's more to the Scottish political landscape that loving Wings Over Scotland, I hope. Like someone who might just realise they need to wake the gently caress up, I hope.

Nah. They'll just blame everyone who didn't vote for Independence in 2014 and carefully never consider that maybe, just maybe, the SNP hosed Scotland royally.

Dongicus
Jun 12, 2015

pisss

Dongicus fucked around with this message at 12:08 on Jun 9, 2017

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


I am loving the nationalist tears and can't wait for their terrible party to fracture into irrelevance.

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

I'm still sceptical that DUPCON is really as unstable as everyone here seems to think it will be. I'm afraid it will last a while even if it'll be chaotic, rightists are assholes and will consolidate if it means holding on to power. I don't expect DUP will blow up the government. Renegade conservative MP's, maybe, but it'll need some kind of crisis.

Walton Simons
May 16, 2010

ELECTRONIC OLD MEN RUNNING THE WORLD
A selection of BBC Have You Say tears

These are all top-page comments

quote:

Once again, the gullible young have been duped by free everything in a new la la land. Well done guys. Do you feel so cred now?


quote:

This was a dollop of good news last night which helped ease the pain of seeing Comrade Corbyn increase his vote share.

May didn't need to call this election and it is her fault that these losses have been made.

The youth and the Muslim vote have increased Corbyn's influence in the house of commons. They all vote Labour, & it is one of the reasons why Labour likes immigration.

Sorry BBC!!


quote:

I am amazed by this electorate. Amazed how older voters have so quickly forgotten that Labour ruined this countty only a few years ago and amazed that the younger voters are so gullible to fall for Corbyns hollow promises.

Fickle, fickle people.

quote:

Well, well. Just goes to show if you promise people the earth, some of them will believe you.

quote:

The greatest election in campaign in history.

A man, offering nothing but bribes and reckless spending, convinces 40% of the British population to vote for him. Sold - hook, line and sinker.

Remainers, who voted to do so 'for our economy', voting for the most anti-economy party in years.

And that's without the prospect of power incredibly changing his views on...everything.

Incredible.

quote:

My old dad always said - "always remember son, that 80% of the population are as thick as pig muck". (maybe not that polite) That so many could vote for the terrorist supporting marxist just shows that he was right all along I guess. Mind you - worst tory campaign I have seen in 40 years I must say.

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Dongicus posted:

west Dunbarton goons what up

There's at least 3 of us and this is weird.

Anyway, we're an SNP/Labour marginal now. Which means, for the almost-inevitable upcoming rerun of the election, I'm going from SNP to Labour.

NewMars
Mar 10, 2013

Shibawanko posted:

I'm still sceptical that DUPCON is really as unstable as everyone here seems to think it will be. I'm afraid it will last a while even if it'll be chaotic, rightists are assholes and will consolidate if it means holding on to power. I don't expect DUP will blow up the government. Renegade conservative MP's, maybe, but it'll need some kind of crisis.

Brexit is in literally two weeks and both want diametrically opposed outcomes.

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.
Tim Farron says Nick Clegg will be remembered kindly in history. Tim Farron, still somehow the worst leader.

Jeherrin
Jun 7, 2012
Farron: “History will be kind to Nick”

Is that loving so.

Obliterati
Nov 13, 2012

Pain is inevitable.
Suffering is optional.
Thunderdome is forever.

Jeherrin posted:

Like an idiot, I hope. Like someone who's just realising that there's more to the Scottish political landscape that loving Wings Over Scotland, I hope. Like someone who might just realise they need to wake the gently caress up, I hope.

Nah. They'll just blame everyone who didn't vote for Independence in 2014 and carefully never consider that maybe, just maybe, the SNP hosed Scotland royally.

Pictured: the attitude that lost Scotland in the first place

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Walton Simons posted:

A selection of BBC Have You Say tears

These are all top-page comments
My sodium intake has already exceeded the recommended daily allowance

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

madey posted:

What does Labour need to do to get those scottish seats into the fold?

"Money and ethnic votes."

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Shibawanko posted:

I'm still sceptical that DUPCON is really as unstable as everyone here seems to think it will be. I'm afraid it will last a while even if it'll be chaotic, rightists are assholes and will consolidate if it means holding on to power. I don't expect DUP will blow up the government. Renegade conservative MP's, maybe, but it'll need some kind of crisis.
I think the Tories will imagine they couldn't do worse than they just did and will want to be shot of the DUP by day 2.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Reckless spending is great for a national economy.

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.
DUP refuse to show up for Queens Speech, demand bridge be built or they won't bother.

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

NewMars posted:

Brexit is in literally two weeks and both want diametrically opposed outcomes.

But DUP got on board with barely a hitch... They want a soft brexit, the tory leadership wants hard, but they can compromise to reach a position, pushing for special provisions for NI for example (the EU might actually budge on that if they think it will help keep Corbyn out of power), then sell the whole thing with a bit of tabloid propaganda as mediumhard brexit.

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out

Jeherrin posted:

Farron: “History will be kind to Nick”

Is that loving so.

You don't speak ill of the dead

Jeherrin
Jun 7, 2012

Obliterati posted:

Pictured: the attitude that lost Scotland in the first place

The SNP hosed Scotland by reducing their position to divisive core policies. Voting in Scotland is now single-issue voting for a great many people. Want independence? Vote SNP. Don't want it? Vote Tory.

The SNP took a lot of previously Labour seats in their rise to power, with voters drinking the kool-aid that Labour were now incapable of representing their interests. People in those once-Labour seats who are pro-Union are now tending towards the Tories because they don't see the SNP as being a party that's got anything of substance to talk about except independence. Whether that's true, or whether they do have substance to their manifesto, is irrelevant. The fact is that there's a perception that it's all they talk about.

Scotland went blue because of a failure amongst the SNP party, and the SNP voter base, to realise this and engage with those people.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
My favourite moment of the night - watching the election with my ragingly left CLP and everyone yelling BEND THE KNEE when Tom Watson came on screen after getting re-elected

also Bernie would have won

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Shibawanko posted:

But DUP got on board with barely a hitch... They want a soft brexit, the tory leadership wants hard, but they can compromise to reach a position, pushing for special provisions for NI for example (the EU might actually budge on that if they think it will help keep Corbyn out of power), then sell the whole thing with a bit of tabloid propaganda as mediumhard brexit.

Why the gently caress would the EU care about Corbyn?

Reveilled
Apr 19, 2007

Take up your rifles

communism bitch posted:

My sodium intake has already exceeded the recommended daily allowance

Don't worry, a study published in the Lancet last year suggested that dietary sodium actually has minimal health effects in those with normal blood pressure! Drink those tears.

NewMars
Mar 10, 2013

Shibawanko posted:

But DUP got on board with barely a hitch... They want a soft brexit, the tory leadership wants hard, but they can compromise to reach a position, pushing for special provisions for NI for example (the EU might actually budge on that if they think it will help keep Corbyn out of power), then sell the whole thing with a bit of tabloid propaganda as mediumhard brexit.

With the general level of competence on display?

They'll do exactly the opposite: somehow having special provisions for everyone but ireland. Or worse, put Boris Johnson in charge.

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Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Shibawanko posted:

I'm still sceptical that DUPCON is really as unstable as everyone here seems to think it will be. I'm afraid it will last a while even if it'll be chaotic, rightists are assholes and will consolidate if it means holding on to power. I don't expect DUP will blow up the government. Renegade conservative MP's, maybe, but it'll need some kind of crisis.

It'll be hell. Labour, if they've got any sense whatsoever, will play endless looping clips of DUP nutters on sexuality, faith, family etc and shore up support (plus probably converting more moderates) by tying the Tories and DUP together every day, all day, forever.

Plus, the DUP programme on Brexit looks very, very light and soft, and won't sit well with the hardcore Brexit nutters on her right flank (see below).

May also doesn't even need the DUP to create trouble; Anna Soubry + Ken Clarke + 1 or 2 more is enough to fold the whole tent. They might not do it, but they will certainly threaten it all the way. As will those on the other side of the spectrum.

https://twitter.com/OpenEurope/status/873100791967395841

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