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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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Andrast posted:Why the gently caress would the EU care about Corbyn? They won't want a change in government in the middle of the brexit talks
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It's not really the middle when they haven't started yet.
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Jun 9, 2017 12:16
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Jeherrin posted:Like an idiot, I hope. Like someone who's just realising that there's more to the Scottish political landscape that loving Wings Over Scotland, I hope. Like someone who might just realise they need to wake the gently caress up, I hope. The SNP/Tory swing voters in those seats don't read Wings. They are old-school, rural, tartan tories. The folk who put Robertson and Salmond in power aren't the same crowd as the Yes bikers. You simply can't expect to appeal to central Glasgow and rural Aberdeenshire at the same time. Class and social divisions will always resurface. That said, there will always be a core constituency for independence. Some difficult questions for the SNP in terms of how the case can be articulated in the face of Brexit and resurgent socialism across the UK though. If Scottish Labour are canny (they aren't) they will turn their fire on to the Conservatives and develop credible UK-wide proposals on the constitution, while campaigning on the core issues Corbyn did. They can't hope to govern the UK with a far-left government while running a narrow, tactical unionist campaign in Scotland.
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Jun 9, 2017 12:17
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Queens Speech fails as DUP no entirely sure where the parliament building is.
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Jun 9, 2017 12:17
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Reveilled posted:Don't worry, a study published in the Lancet last year suggested that dietary sodium actually has minimal health effects in those with normal blood pressure! Drink those tears. Are we sure it wasn't a planted study by Big Salt?
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Andrast posted:Why the gently caress would the EU care about Corbyn? They don't want a leftist government to succeed anywhere, it would break their "no alternative" narrative, same reason they hosed Syriza. Negotiations with Corbyn would also drag on longer, they prefer a quick cut followed by hard austerity Britain.
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Jun 9, 2017 12:17
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Jeherrin posted:The SNP hosed Scotland by reducing their position to divisive core policies. Voting in Scotland is now single-issue voting for a great many people. Want independence? Vote SNP. Don't want it? Vote Tory. So long as you insist Labour's previous collapse was due to 'Kool-Aid' you'll never be able to seriously engage with those of us who left the party, and even as a pro-indy it's a shame. Can't see the awesome jam man thinking like this though, so we're probably in for a rough ride if he can squeeze that entitled attitude out of Scottish Labour.
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Jun 9, 2017 12:18
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jBrereton posted:It's not really the middle when they haven't started yet. He was talking about a hypothetical future where the coalition breaks down during the talks and why the eu might have a vested interest in propping them up
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Jun 9, 2017 12:18
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mm sorry I'm a bit giddy + tired for this still
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Alright, I've read the past couple pages but I need to get ready for work because I'm in the US, so please help me out. Looking at it, the tories don't have enough seats for a majority anymore so my understanding is they need a few votes from another party to maintain May if they want to keep her, is that right? Or do they just need a plurality to fill the role? I'm sure it's all speculation, but do goons think she'll be replaced? Is there a real chance of there being another election within a month? Will British leaders ever learn their lesson about "shoring up support before a big initiative"??
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Jun 9, 2017 12:20
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Scotland going Tory is the fault of FPTP, no more no less.
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Walton Simons posted:A selection of BBC Have You Say tears UKMT 2017: Do You Feel So Cred Now?
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Junior G-man posted:
We did. Unfortunately. I'm in his constituency. 
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Jun 9, 2017 12:21
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The DUPs main concern is Agriculture when it comes to brexit (need the farmers!)
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Though frankly their deep hatred of Corbyn will mean the most you can hope for is an abstention from then if poo poo goes tits up
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Jun 9, 2017 12:22
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kustomkarkommando posted:The DUPs main concern is Agriculture when it comes to brexit (need the farmers!) wait, you guys still have enough farmers to matter?
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Jun 9, 2017 12:22
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£350mil a week from the EU is what £510mil a week in wood pellets?
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Jun 9, 2017 12:22
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Chakan posted:Alright, I've read the past couple pages but I need to get ready for work because I'm in the US, so please help me out. You've got this a little backwards. They don't need votes to maintain May - they are the largest party and therefore whoever the leader is will be PM. They need support from other parties to pass legislation as they do not hold a majority. In theory every other party could vote down every piece of legislation the Tories try to pass. She'll probably maintain her leadership for a while, but as soon as a major piece of legislation fails she's gone. An election in 6-12 months seems like.
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Jun 9, 2017 12:23
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Chakan posted:Alright, I've read the past couple pages but I need to get ready for work because I'm in the US, so please help me out.
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Jun 9, 2017 12:23
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Obliterati posted:So long as you insist Labour's previous collapse was due to 'Kool-Aid' you'll never be able to seriously engage with those of us who left the party, and even as a pro-indy it's a shame. Okay, I'm all ears: what's your take on it? I mean, I'd rather have a dialogue with people of differing views to me than just insist either person is flat-out wrong.
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Jun 9, 2017 12:23
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Goa Tse-tung posted:wait, you guys still have enough farmers to matter? Its all about cattle exports into Ireland. NI farmers send live cattle over the border for slaughter and "freedom of movement of livestock" is legit a phrase some in the DUP have usef
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Jun 9, 2017 12:24
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'Vote Tory, get DUP' should be a good attack line for the next election. Also they should be constantly asking Tory MPs whether they condemn awful poo poo said by their partners constantly for as long as the alliance holds.
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Jun 9, 2017 12:25
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Wheat Loaf posted:I think he's probably the worst person in parliament now that Philip Davies is out. Philip Davies got re-elected, there was a swing to Labour in his seat but not enough unlike in neighboring Keighley. He was laying into May on the local TV, so another one whose probably not in her good books.
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Jun 9, 2017 12:25
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Is there any good reason to not join the Labour Party right now?
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Jun 9, 2017 12:26
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Tesseraction posted:Are we sure it wasn't a planted study by Big Salt? Joke Answer: Big Salt promises to cure Cancer. Haha, cure, get it? Serious answer: It was a pooled analysis of 4 studies covering 133,000 people for 4 years. It was called "Associations of Urinary Sodium Excretion with Cadiovascular Events in Individuals With and Without Hypertention: A Pooled Analysis of Data From Four Studies". If you don't feel like reading a paper, there's a healthcare triage video about it.
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mfcrocker posted:Is there any good reason to not join the Labour Party right now? No.
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https://twitter.com/MrRaffles/status/873131205956448261/photo/1
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mfcrocker posted:Is there any good reason to not join the Labour Party right now? There hasn't been a good reason since August 2015.
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mfcrocker posted:Is there any good reason to not join the Labour Party right now? You're seventy years old and hate happiness.
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The other part is whether certain Tories will want the DUP to be a stick to be beaten with too.
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Jun 9, 2017 12:27
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EvilHawk posted:You've got this a little backwards. They don't need votes to maintain May - they are the largest party and therefore whoever the leader is will be PM. They need support from other parties to pass legislation as they do not hold a majority. In theory every other party could vote down every piece of legislation the Tories try to pass.
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Jun 9, 2017 12:28
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I assume a by-election in Thanet South is still likely?
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Chakan posted:Alright, I've read the past couple pages but I need to get ready for work because I'm in the US, so please help me out. May is hosed, her own party will knife her. But to maintain government they need to be able to form either an official or unofficial coalition with another party, which will probably be the DUP, because the DUP will never ally with Labour and they have enough MPs to get them over the line. It doesn't necessarily mean the DUP will join cabinet or support everything the Tories do - they could have an agreement on confidence and supply, which means they'll vote for the absolutely vital stuff like the Budget and back the Tory PM in any vote of no confidence, and every other piece of legislation has to be considered on its merits. (There could theoretically be legislation the DUP doesn't like but the Lib Dems and some independents do, for example, so it still gets through.) This is what's called minority government, rather than coalition government. It is 100% going to be an absolutely fractious nightmare for the Tories and yes, will probably result in another election before the next five-year date. Expect Corbyn to hound them mercilessly, paint them as chaotic, and demand an early election at every turn. (I'm basing this off what happened in Australia in 2010, but with the parties reversed - Labour got a minority govt with the Greens and some independents, the Tory opposition went absolutely batshit for three years.)
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Irony Be My Shield posted:'Vote Tory, get DUP' should be a good attack line for the next election. Also they should be constantly asking Tory MPs whether they condemn awful poo poo said by their partners constantly for as long as the alliance holds. For the DUP and Tory representatives: "so what do you guys like MOST about each other?  "For the UKIP representavie: "Please have the oxygen of airtime despite being a parliamentary irrelevance" For the Lab representative: "Jeremy Corbyn didn't secure a majority, shouldn't he resign?"
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Raeg posted:The other part is whether certain Tories will want the DUP to be a stick to be beaten with too. I wonder how the Young LGBT Conservatives feel right now.
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Jun 9, 2017 12:30
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I think you guys are forgetting that this is going to be a coalition/deal with a Northern Irish party. Certain subsections of English voters (especially tories) will be incredibly unhappy with the idea of Northern Ireland dictating their policies, just like they hated the idea of Scotland doing the same with an SNP/Labour deal. They pretended it's about independence but for those kinds of people it absolutely is not, it's all about EVEL and they will not like a minority country having huge sway over England.
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Jun 9, 2017 12:31
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Reminder that one of the strongest candidates for PM when may is knifed is literally everything the DUP hates: a scottish lesbian. Seriously, there was an image back there of one of the current DUP MP's calling homosexuality worse than pedophilia.
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ukle posted:Philip Davies got re-elected, there was a swing to Labour in his seat but not enough unlike in neighboring Keighley. Oh, that's a shame. I think there was something going round that he'd lost last night and neglected to confirm this morning. Well, Gregory, you're still only the second-worst person in parliament.
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Jun 9, 2017 12:31
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Gort posted:I wonder how the Young LGBT Conservatives feel right now. If they can survive the crushing cognative dissonance of being a Young LGBT Tory, nothing will stop them.
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This is the first "good" day I've had in a long time (thanks SSRIs!) Interesting times ahead - I do like a bit of chaos, me. Fiona Hill and Nick Timothy sacked. E: Also a nice swing of about 12% towards the Labour candidate in my constituency (Huntingdon) while greens and UKIP were liquidated. Makes me feel a bit better. 
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