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Sneaks McDevious
Jul 29, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
I wish tax wasn't such an issue. We pay gently caress all compared to many countries and we also don't have local authority taxes.
I want someone who is going to spend on infrastructure and maintaining social services.

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Skull Servant
Oct 25, 2009

We are hosed.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

julian assflange posted:

I wish tax wasn't such an issue. We pay gently caress all compared to many countries and we also don't have local authority taxes.
I want someone who is going to spend on infrastructure and maintaining social services.

sounds like communism to me!

tag youre fat
Aug 16, 2013

C'est l'homme ideal
charme au masculin
can't wait for the next election now. varadkar's in my constituency, i might get to tell the taoiseach he's a oval office

Sneaks McDevious
Jul 29, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Not really. When you consider the amount of time and column inches dedicated to the Dail Prayer, there isn't much left for actual legislation to happen.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Leo is launching his policy document, hasn't been uploaded yet but a couple if points:

Similar commitment to Coveney to cut the highest headline income tax rate to 50%

Reduction of debt to GDP target by 10% to facilitate more capital spending

Referendum on abortion in 2018

Auto enrolment pension schemes with state/employer matching payments for employee contributions

Reversal of cuts in bereavement payments

Merging prsi and USC into a new single tax

Harmonising (cutting) prsi rates for the self employed and extending job seekers benefit to the self employed

More autonomy for state owned enterprises

Increase in property taxes for homes lying vacant for more than two years

Scrapping the help to buy scheme

Paying water charge refunds THIS YEAR

Extension of the Lansdowne road agreement

Oh and this gem

https://mobile.twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/866615439929081856

Sneaks McDevious
Jul 29, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
In France PE is a subject in most final school exam routes. Good idea imo

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

julian assflange posted:

In France PE is a subject in most final school exam routes. Good idea imo

I think the banning strikes thing was the more relevant bit of news... Or have I just :thejoke: myself?

Sneaks McDevious
Jul 29, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

WeAreTheRomans posted:

I think the banning strikes thing was the more relevant bit of news... Or have I just :thejoke: myself?

Nope I think I saw the wrong tweet highlighted

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Sounds like he's going to take a tough line with public sector pay renegotiations to push for "modernisation".

The last few months during the bus strike and people laying into the greedy unions has probably given him ideas...

Might push a reluctant Labour into the arms of FF though? Might be thinking the unthinkable there though

Edit: his police doc is up on his site, http://campaignforleo.ie

Relevant bit quoted


leo posted:

PUBLIC SECTOR PAY

We believe that negotiations to extend the Lansdowne Road Agreement should not focus solely on pay restoration or working hours. Our focus must also be on public service improvements, on meeting the needs
of all citizens in a changing Ireland. It must also be an opportunity to secure public sector pensions on a more sustainable footing and achieve further modernisation of the public services for those who depend on them
And those who work in them.

We accept that our public service now operate in a changing labour market, we therefore support the need for international salary and workplace comparisons for public service employees who work in international
labour markets.

INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS AND PEACE

We will legislate to make Labour Court recommendations binding on employers and unions in essential public and security services as determined by the Oireachtas. People should no longer be inconvenienced by strike action in essential services. The Labour Court will be the final arbiter and will ensure that workers receive a fair response
to any claim.

This will not impinge on the right to strike until a Labour Court determination is made.

kustomkarkommando fucked around with this message at 18:12 on May 22, 2017

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

The strike proposal seems to unsurprisingly caught some anger:


rte posted:

Mr Varadkar defended his proposed policy to restrict the right to strike in essential services, saying it would be wrong to categorise it as a strike ban.

In his manifesto, he proposes making Labour Court rulings binding in essential services, and restricting the right to strike once a determination has been issued.

Speaking on RTÉ's Six One, he said the essential services could include air traffic control and emergency services; "life and death things", but that ultimately the services should be a matter for the Oireachtas to determine.

"I think it would be wrong to categorise it as a strike ban. It's not that.

"What I am saying is that if a dispute is protracted and if it goes to the Labour Court and bear in mind, both the union and the employer has to agree that if it goes to the Labour Court that should be the end of it.

"Both the unions and the employer should accept the outcome of the Labour Court. And that's what I am proposing."

Unions have described such potential legislation restricting the right to strike as disproportionate, and pledged to resist it.

while outlining his tax proposals, Mr Varadkar said there is a degree of an "entitlement culture" in Ireland where some people believe that everything should be free, adding that they are often supporters of the far-left.

He said he does not accept that culture and is bringing forward honest centrist politics


https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0522/876916-fine-gael/

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Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


Leo beating a "hard left" strawman to death on the six one last night was gas. Typical neo liberal tory horseshit.

Blut
Sep 11, 2009

if someone is in the bottom 10%~ of a guillotine

Southpaugh posted:

Leo beating a "hard left" strawman to death on the six one last night was gas. Typical neo liberal tory horseshit.

Theresa May's Tories are at least pretending to want a "fairer society" these days, with their pivot towards the center.

Leo in contrast is making no attempt to even pretend to care about the poors. Hes to the right of the Tories. Its frightening.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Rhetorical to the right at least. His policy document is keeping things roughly in line with Coveney with a couple of more right leaning differences here and there but hasn't gone full Renua

Its really a tone issue, the Just Society is out and a Working Society for Working People is in...

Sneaks McDevious
Jul 29, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Leo Varadakar is the new leader of FG.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

He lost the membership vote, only managed to get 35% lol

So

How long until an election

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
they will betray you
Aren't the current ministers not eligible for their pensions until the two year mark. Can expect Fianna Fail to pull the rug out next Spring when that's happened.

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




a guy i know is putting together all the Leo Varadkar Is A Woke Member Of #TheResistance (Just Like Macron, Trudeau, And Merkel--But Not Jeremy Corbyn) takes on Twitter because, as he told me, "I hate myself and my government".

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Troy Queef posted:

a guy i know is putting together all the Leo Varadkar Is A Woke Member Of #TheResistance (Just Like Macron, Trudeau, And Merkel--But Not Jeremy Corbyn) takes on Twitter because, as he told me, "I hate myself and my government".

How can you say this and not post some

Blut
Sep 11, 2009

if someone is in the bottom 10%~ of a guillotine
Horrifying. The only hope is an election is called before Leo can do serious damage to the country.

Given even the FG membership base apparently doesn't like him, I can only assume (hope) the general population will like him even less.

Does anyone know why the parliamentarians apparently love Leo? Was Leo making lots of cabinet promises, or does Coveney just smell bad or something?

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




kustomkarkommando posted:

How can you say this and not post some

https://twitter.com/VK_HM/status/869615450686140418

https://twitter.com/VK_HM/status/869665082258665472

(more will come, believe me)

Sneaks McDevious
Jul 29, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
For fucks sake

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
Gay muslim Obama for Taoiseach imo

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




oh god

https://twitter.com/liberalism_txt/status/870735273277046784

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
i'd be happy with that guy if I lived in trumpland too.

that twitter account rubs me the wrong way, what with the kekistan and soros crap

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Discendo Vox posted:

Gay muslim Obama for Taoiseach imo

Come now Leos a catholic

We haven't completely lost the run of ourselves...

Sneaks McDevious
Jul 29, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Like it's a cool story and all that but he is a bit too right leaning for my liking

Redgrendel2001
Sep 1, 2006

you literally think a person saying their NBA team of choice being better than the fucking 76ers is a 'schtick'

a literal thing you think.

kustomkarkommando posted:

Come now Leos a catholic

We haven't completely lost the run of ourselves...

He's the kind of Catholic who would applaud the re-institution of Magdalene Laundries.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Hmmm, a back to work scheme for welfare dependent single mothers with minimal government outlays? Hmmm

School Nickname
Apr 23, 2010

*fffffff-fffaaaaaaarrrtt*
:ussr:
Pence will smash his face in with that glass shamrock bowl after trump's gone imo. Tbh he really should slip in a LGBT flag into the bowl.

kustomkarkommando posted:

Hmmm, a back to work scheme for welfare dependent single mothers with minimal government outlays? Hmmm

To qualify your child must replace the canaries in the coal mines.

Sneaks McDevious
Jul 29, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

kustomkarkommando posted:

Hmmm, a back to work scheme for welfare dependent single mothers with minimal government outlays? Hmmm

Forced labour to solve the housing crisis

literally mcguinty
Dec 30, 2016
What can we tell my girlfriend's normally FG voting family that will convince them this guy will be bad for Ireland? He's coming for their pensions? He'll institute mandatory Buckfast enemas?

At the moment almost everybody we talk to is discussing voting for him like it's their duty in the global fight against racism.

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

literally mcguinty posted:

What can we tell my girlfriend's normally FG voting family that will convince them this guy will be bad for Ireland? He's coming for their pensions? He'll institute mandatory Buckfast enemas?

At the moment almost everybody we talk to is discussing voting for him like it's their duty in the global fight against racism.

If they typically vote FG, I can see no reason why Varadkar would scare them off

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

literally mcguinty posted:

What can we tell my girlfriend's normally FG voting family that will convince them this guy will be bad for Ireland? He's coming for their pensions? He'll institute mandatory Buckfast enemas?

At the moment almost everybody we talk to is discussing voting for him like it's their duty in the global fight against racism.

Kind of poo poo has the same power as right wing rhetoric to make people vote against their interests imo. I have witnessed a person at work who is reliant on benefits to support their kid be very vocal about their intention to vote for an actual Tory candidate here in NI next Thursday because Theresa May is a woman and the candidate is also a woman and Asian!!!* I guess I am a horrible curmudgeon as I would vote for a party led by Bernard Manning himself if he returned from the dead and promised to implement socialist policies :/

*As far as I can tell, she's not actually Asian.

breadshaped
Apr 1, 2010


Soiled Meat
Someone talk about NI re exit poll

Blut
Sep 11, 2009

if someone is in the bottom 10%~ of a guillotine
If the Tories find themselves sitting at 316-320 seats they'll probably be reliant on the 10 Ulster Unionist MPs to support them in government. I'd imagine this would result in more pork barrel spending for NI, thats probably a positive.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Bedshaped posted:

Someone talk about NI re exit poll

Usual battle constituencies

Sinn Fein aiming for gains in Fermanagh and South Tyrone which is considered almost a lock for them, taking one off the UUP. Also look set to take a seat off the SDLP in South Down. Angling hard to take Dodds seat in Belfast North but would be surprising if they broke through the old defences there. Also making a run at Foyle to beat the SDLP in Derry, again doesn't seem massively likely so who knows.

DUP aiming to grab South Belfast with a five-way split vote, grabbing one from the SDLP - too close to call there. Defending Belfast East from Alliance, Alliance are bookies favourite to retake the seat but there has been a bit of doubt in recent days. Also grab South Antrim back from the UUP.

So if SF met their targets and the DUP fails all its targets youd be looking at SF 8, DUP 6, UUP 1, Alliance 1, SDLP 1, Ind 1 - Off those 2 could back labour and the remaining 7 Unionists would side Tory in confidence terms. 8 SF seats would reduce the majority to 321 so 7 Unionists would throw em on target (and the 1 ind has said she will note vote for a Labour government, might abstain on confidence but likely to side against the Tories on a vote by vote basis)

Good day for the DUP seeing them hold Belfast East and take their two targets knocks them up to 10, SF taking South Down and Fermanagh South Tyrone knocks them up to 6 - Effect majority needed would be 322 so again +10 DUP would knock the Tories over the forecast in confidence.

So best way for the NI seats to cut for Labour would SDLP holding South Belfast and South Down, Alliance taking East Belfast and SF taking Fermanagh and South Tyrone and Belfast North - Reduces the effective majority to 322 and puts combined unionists on 8 which would theoretically put the DUP/UUP/Tory exactly on the target figure

kustomkarkommando fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Jun 8, 2017

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers
Oh god.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Here comes direct rule boyos

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Blut
Sep 11, 2009

if someone is in the bottom 10%~ of a guillotine
The DUP will somehow manage to make the Tories look modern, secular, leftist, liberal and intellectual in comparison to themselves. So there is that...I guess?

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