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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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Gort posted:I guess the only thing they have in common is unionism. And I guess Scotland must have selfish racist rich fuckers as well. a reminder : trump owns land there. Edit snype : 330, the amount of pubic lice estimated to live on the back of theresa may's shoulders.
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So, May could go to Buckingham Palace without any kind of DUP deal in place? Wild
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:For a long time people have been able to mostly check out of politics (especially over in England since you have the NHS). The 35-50 year olds (and I'm in that camp) grew up in a world where politics was mostly a team sport hobby that didn't matter that much for most people. The kids these days have grown up in a world where politics matters massively and they're getting massively hosed over by politicians. Good on them for caring more. The kids are alright. I guess it's weird for me because I grew up in the north where "gently caress the tories" is sort of ingrained into you. And that definitely is part of why I'm naturally some flavour of red. But, that sentiment should have been even stronger for the people my parents age, who grew up with all that poo poo, I got much of mine from my grandma, who even as a kid I remember her trying to explain to me that communism was good so long as it's not "red communism" by which she meant the USSR. But strangely everyone I know of the age of my parents is just... disinterested. I wish she hadn't died last year because I wish I could ask her about her politics when she was younger.
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WeAreTheRomans posted:So, May could go to Buckingham Palace without any kind of DUP deal in place? Wild She already did at 12.30 lol
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communism bitch posted:She already did at 12.30 lol Yeah that's what I meant I just used confusing tenses
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OwlFancier posted:I got much of mine from my grandma, who even as a kid I remember her trying to explain to me that communism was good so long as it's not "red communism" by which she meant the USSR. We want a red, white and blue communism
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Angepain posted:We want a red, white and blue communism I want a red and black communism
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Why did SNP lose so many seats? This is worth addressing in detail. There have been a host of devolved governance failures that are significant overall but probably not worth delving into individually. These were combined with a rural reaction against indyref2 (especially among older SNP voters), the impact of low oil prices (stupid but unavoidable, and significant in the North East) and fishing policy (especially the SNP's confused proposals on the Common Fisheries Policy and Brexit). Common Agricultural Policy IT issues also played a big role in rural communities (again, a bit stupid to vote for a party that will literally end CAP funding forever, but what can you do). The entire election campaign was run on the SNP's devolved record, education and health especially, combined with the message of being too focused on a second referendum. For example, nobody here cares about May's policies on the English NHS, but they might care about the Scottish NHS pay cap or the IT failures in NHS24. The SNP has been in Government for ten years, and has run the administration from the centre, i.e pretty badly. They have pissed off lecturers, teachers and nurses due to cuts and the approach to pay deals. They have, as they are forced to, implemented austerity. But they have failed to significantly raise taxes, in particular, they have failed to increase income tax or reform local taxation (a massive reversal from the days of the "hated Tory council tax", as Sturgeon put it). This means they have failed to tackle house price inflation and the underfunding of public services. These are long-term, slow-burning failures to tackle underling issues with Scotland's economy. I'd argue that most of these failures derive from Holyrood's milquetoast centre-left consensus and would be replicated by a Lab/LibDem administration, but they have been pinned on the SNP's "independence obsession". The SNP have also failed to implement real land reform proposals, despite Scotland having the most concentrated patterns of land ownership in the world. They are shifting to the right on education, moving towards educational regions outwith the control of local authorities, based on "empowered" headteachers with their own budgets rather than properly funded local authorities under democratic oversight. They attempted to centralise Highlands & Islands Enterprise. They implemented an otherwise uncontroversial "named person" policy in schools (backed by children's charities) which had legal flaws, handing a victory to overzealous christian campaigners in court. They created a centralised Police Scotland and cut control room coverage, with tragic consequences. The irony here is that there is now a solid perception that the devolved Government is responsible for almost everything. The SNP have cried wolf about Westminster cuts and interference so much that nobody believes them, even when they are raising a legitimate issue. Basically, ten years in "Government" has taken its toll. But still, the SNP could have went much further in tackling Scotland's fundamental weaknesses, and must bear a lot of the blame for their decline. All of this feeds into the independence debate, but it doesn't begin and end with the constitution.
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WeAreTheRomans posted:So, May could go to Buckingham Palace without any kind of DUP deal in place? Wild
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Catching up from the Colonies, what a twist. https://twitter.com/briangaar/status/746324479375118336
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Angepain posted:3) is an interesting possibility and 2) is a good point - i know a lot of my lefty scottish friends were torn between labour and snp on idealistic and tactical grounds, and as someone who voted Yes in 2014 a successful Corbynist govt would definitely swing me towards hope in the UK being non-poo poo. I only voted snp this time round because my labour guy was iffy on King Jez. Another thing is the difference between voting for an SNP one year after a failed referendum and an SNP galvanized by the election/Brexit results, suddenly believing that another referendum is around the corner. Perhaps a massive mistake from Sturgeon, et al, not pushing for Devo Max when the ball was in their court?
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Theresa May is going to look so strong and stable when the DUP announce that they don't want to make a coalition with her.
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OwlFancier posted:I guess it's weird for me because I grew up in the north where "gently caress the tories" is sort of ingrained into you. And that definitely is part of why I'm naturally some flavour of red. if you have not seen the clip of mr flaunchy saying "Glad she's dead", I would check it out, he said what most people from his age to my age think about anywhere north of london.
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Jun 9, 2017 14:19
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People are going to get very fed up of still seeing Theresa May very, very quickly. Can I just say this is the best day. All my political experiences until now are comparitively awful.
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Jun 9, 2017 14:20
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staberind posted:if you have not seen the clip of mr flaunchy saying "Glad she's dead", I would check it out, he said what most people from his age to my age think about anywhere north of london. I mean, they aren't wrong about the towns AFAIK, but the farmers are farmers everywhere, tory to the bone.
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Jun 9, 2017 14:20
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communism bitch posted:I believe that the children are our future. Corbyn's Comrades
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Jun 9, 2017 14:21
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People on Twitter are saying Labour have taken Kensington.
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Jun 9, 2017 14:21
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Man you can almost* feel sorry for May, sitting down to deal with a bunch of numpties you have to broker a deal with and they hand you a list of unbudgeable bollocks. Talk about the rock and the hard place * lol no get fuct
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Jun 9, 2017 14:22
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NoneMoreNegative posted:* lol no get fuct
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Barbe Rouge posted:There was an article a while ago about a party meeting in which various PLP members took turns making GBS threads on him and I'll never forget a quote about their goal being "breaking him as a man". If he could survive that, I think some idiots on the TV aren't a big deal. The man survived as a socialist Labour MP under Blair. Plus his constituency stuff is clearly really important to him, and they've elected him nine consecutive times. That's got to be a big boost - if he ever starts getting down about the bad press he can just go outside in his constituency and know that more than half the people he meets in the street personally voted for him.
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Jun 9, 2017 14:23
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This is A Good Post.
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communism bitch posted:I want a red and black communism  I remember a couple of months ago you talking about getting more into anarchism. It's nice to see you did.
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Jun 9, 2017 14:23
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https://twitter.com/UKIPPOOLE/status/873166988704714752 Daily Mail gunning for May already.
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Jun 9, 2017 14:23
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My favourite Tory party is one that is eating itself.
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Jun 9, 2017 14:24
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:
I thought Ober was always anarchist?
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DUP now saying no support unless they get "Big" concessions. I will laugh forever if they refuse to support the Queens speech
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https://twitter.com/murraypolitics/status/873090820928188416
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Ahahahaahah.
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PM Catte. Manifesto: Biscuits. EU negotiation focus: Belly rubs. Somehow more coherent than May.
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Fans posted:DUP now saying no support unless they get "Big" concessions.
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Fans posted:DUP now saying no support unless they get "Big" concessions. Homosexuality to be made illegal, calling it now Tim farron can coincidentally get very, very ill on that day and sadly not be able to vote against it oh what a shame
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Jun 9, 2017 14:27
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El Gato for prime minister
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Jun 9, 2017 14:27
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So what are we looking at with Brexit talks? With the ensuing chaos of a potential DUP/CON government is there a chance that it's utterly boned? Or are we going to get a soft deal which is more or less the same as before? This has been a really wild ride, I'm so happy with the end results, and even if DUP and Conservatives form a coalition it will be hopefully such a clusterfuck it will throw more votes to Labour in the next election.
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OwlFancier posted:I thought Ober was always anarchist? Maybe he was just asking for clarification about how something would work in an anarchist society then.
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Jun 9, 2017 14:28
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Really I think I should have a communist plat icon. We all should
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Jun 9, 2017 14:29
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Jun 9, 2017 14:29
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God I haven't felt this good in so long. This has been the best loving morning in years for me, so nice to have something so entertaining and so completely great to enjoy with good company.
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Jun 9, 2017 14:29
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BisonDollah posted:Sturgeon announced the Scottish Labour leader was secretly into an IndyRef2 so basically made the Tories the only option for NO voters who saw this election as another binary choice between AR FLEG or the road to a united Ireland. between this and aggressively pushing for a second referendum when there was clearly no appetite for it driving away 2015 SNP voters who don't want independence for fears that their vote would he used as evidence of a desire for another referendum that didn't exist, I believe that Nicola Sturgeon holds more individual responsibility than anyone else in the country for the failure of this election to result in a progressive alliance that made the lives of 65 million people better and therefore she should fall on her sword and all so called left leaning members of the SNP should abandon their selfish single issue voting to join us in the Labour Party in the fight against the thumb people to truly create a country for the many and not the few.
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https://twitter.com/KayBurley/status/873163775519731713 q: what're the biggest asks the DUP could make
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