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Oct 15, 2012

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Mordor She Wrote posted:

I don't hate Bernie, I voted and volunteered for him, he just never would have actually won against Trump and even if he did the republicans would sand bag him harder than any previous administration

The Dems might help too

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Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

fruit on the bottom posted:

The Dems might help too

Yeah probably about half the dems and every republican would set out to destroy Bernie

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


Mordor She Wrote posted:

If Bernie won (which he wouldn't have) he would be as grossly ineffectual as Trump

Yeah like i said for the students at home, this is an example of a moron farting onto his keyboard to make his retard case

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Mordor She Wrote posted:

Yeah probably about half the dems and every republican would set out to destroy Bernie

Nah, it'd be more like every Dem, but half would do it quietly because of Bernie's mandate.

And that would be perfectly fine and good, since Bernie would still torpedo the TPP, veto their poo poo bills, go public as necessary to hurt the worst ones, and hopefully use the DoJ to bulldog the worst of the corporate bad actors

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

basic hitler posted:

Yeah like i said for the students at home, this is an example of a moron farting onto his keyboard to make his retard case

Bernie's time as president would have been so ineffectual that it would be the new rallying cry against socialism and lead to a thousand years of Libertarian darkness

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Mordor She Wrote posted:

If Bernie won (which he wouldn't have) he would be as grossly ineffectual as Trump

You say that like it's a bad thing

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI

fruit on the bottom posted:

There's a level of truth to that if you assume congress wouldn't have supported the meaningful parts of his agenda

It's true. I was an ardent Bernie supporter and I knew from day one that he would accomplish nothing thanks to congress. I liked him because he was a decent human being and while he would make no forward progress, giving him a veto power would have at least protected America from any particularly evil legislation going through. He wouldn't have been a sword used to get what we want, but rather a shield to protect what still have.

I really do wonder whether Hillary would have been better than Trump. We'll never know. Sometimes I think while President Trump is a bad thing, on the plus side, the guy has no clue what he's doing and also has no verbal filter, and thus will live tweet out everything stupid and corrupt he does for the whole world to see. Hillary would also do really shady stuff that would hurt the American people greatly, but she would do it behind closed doors while well-off liberals who have no idea what life is like for the working class blindly sing her praises.

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Mordor She Wrote posted:

I don't hate Bernie, I voted and volunteered for him, he just never would have actually won against Trump and even if he did the republicans would sand bag him harder than any previous administration

The "realistic" self-compromising Hillaryman is the saddest kind

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Gammatron 64 posted:

It's true. I was an ardent Bernie supporter and I knew from day one that he would accomplish nothing thanks to congress. I liked him because he was a decent human being and while he would make no forward progress, giving him a veto power would have at least protected America from any particularly evil legislation going through. He wouldn't have been a sword used to get what we want, but rather a shield to protect what still have.

I really do wonder whether Hillary would have been better than Trump. We'll never know. Sometimes I think while President Trump is a bad thing, on the plus side, the guy has no clue what he's doing and also has no verbal filter, and thus will live tweet out everything stupid and corrupt he does for the whole world to see. Hillary would also do really shady stuff that would hurt the American people greatly, but she would do it behind closed doors while well-off liberals who have no idea what life is like for the working class blindly sing her praises.

Yes... Yes. You're almost there. Throw off your preconceptions and face the truth

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014
There is no question that Hillary would have been better than Trump in almost every conceivable way other than lol factor

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Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Mordor She Wrote posted:

There is no question that Hillary would have been better than Trump in almost every conceivable way other than lol factor

Hmm, no:

Gammatron 64 posted:

Hillary would also do really shady stuff that would hurt the American people greatly, but she would do it behind closed doors while well-off liberals who have no idea what life is like for the working class blindly sing her praises.

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI

Mordor She Wrote posted:

There is no question that Hillary would have been better than Trump in almost every conceivable way other than lol factor

I dunno. They both suck poo poo from Satan's anus. But at least Trump is entertaining and we at least get a few good laughs as he runs our country into the ground.

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

Lol the only reason anyone can even pretend to praise Trump is that he is a complete idiot who is accelerating the suffering of every American, this is better than the status quo because *fart*

Toadvine
Mar 16, 2009
Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.

Mordor She Wrote posted:

Bernie's time as president would have been so ineffectual that it would be the new rallying cry against socialism and lead to a thousand years of Libertarian darkness

Then why do you get so odiously lovely about people not voting for him

like you need an excusE to justify your ornery impishness

Snatch Duster
Feb 20, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Mordor She Wrote posted:

There is no question that Hillary would have been better than Trump in almost every conceivable way other than lol factor

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rezatahs
Jun 9, 2001

by Smythe

Mordor She Wrote posted:

Lol the only reason anyone can even pretend to praise Trump is that he is a complete idiot who is accelerating the suffering of every American, this is better than the status quo because *fart*

accelerating the suffering of every american is the status quo

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"
Lol people think don progresses anything other than his own corporate profits and that of his buddies.

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

Toadvine posted:

Then why do you get so odiously lovely about people not voting for him

like you need an excusE to justify your ornery impishness

I mean we are going to devolve into a gilded age style libertarian shithole anyways but at least voting for Bernie would have been a "I'm not going to accept that reality " versus what people actually did which was vote for big business to gently caress their assholes to death

Toadvine
Mar 16, 2009
Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.

Panzeh posted:

Lol people think don progresses anything other than his own corporate profits and that of his buddies.

a surprisingly prescient view into the impossiverse where Hillary won.

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Gammatron 64 posted:

I dunno. They both suck poo poo from Satan's anus. But at least Trump is entertaining and we at least get a few good laughs as he runs our country into the ground.

He's also getting people to actually pay attention to politics again instead of just jerking off about the first x President like the past 8 years. They're still retarded and mostly dancing to the media's tune, but it's a start. And also causing the corporate-controlled media to constantly self-own and show what pathetic trash they've become. And splitting the Republican party.

He took down TPP and hopefully fucks up NAFTA too. He's causing a potentially major upset in the labor market as his tough talk scares away illegal labor.

The list goes on. So far, the Trump administration has mostly exceeded my expectations.

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

OXBALLS DOT COM posted:

He's also getting people to actually pay attention to politics again instead of just jerking off about the first x President like the past 8 years. They're still retarded and mostly dancing to the media's tune, but it's a start. And also causing the corporate-controlled media to constantly self-own and show what pathetic trash they've become. And splitting the Republican party.

He took down TPP and hopefully fucks up NAFTA too. He's causing a potentially major upset in the labor market as his tough talk scares away illegal labor.

The list goes on. So far, the Trump administration has mostly exceeded my expectations.

It's nice that you set your expectations so low that even Trump could exceed them

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Mordor She Wrote posted:

It's nice that you set your expectations so low that even Trump could exceed them

I'm a realist, kid :smugdog:

Toadvine
Mar 16, 2009
Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.

Mordor She Wrote posted:

I mean we are going to devolve into a gilded age style libertarian shithole anyways but at least voting for Bernie would have been a "I'm not going to accept that reality " versus what people actually did which was vote for big business to gently caress their assholes to death

your perspective is incredibly sad and indignant it seeps from every post like tobacco spit I hope the weather is at least nice today wherever you are

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI
I sometimes think that our current system is so insanely broken that there is no way to fix it and its collapse is inevitable

So... Trump isn't going to actually make America great again or anything... he's just putting us out of our misery, I guess

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Gammatron 64 posted:

I sometimes think that our current system is so insanely broken that there is no way to fix it and its collapse is inevitable

So... Trump isn't going to actually make America great again or anything... he's just putting us out of our misery, I guess

Trump actually shows that the extremely advanced and sophisticated systems of political control in our country are neither as strong or as infallible as they seem. He became President essentially by accident because of the common man deciding to cast a vote that says "no I will not obey". Embrace the hope, friend. All humanity is stupid, even the so-called Masters of the Universe. Ordinary, flawed, vulnerable, but also decent people still matter.

Toadvine
Mar 16, 2009
Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.

Gammatron 64 posted:

I sometimes think that our current system is so insanely broken that there is no way to fix it and its collapse is inevitable

So... Trump isn't going to actually make America great again or anything... he's just putting us out of our misery, I guess

Work within your community brother.

Best case: full socialism for your grandkids.
Worst case: a head start on forming a band of marauders for the after-times

nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax

Mordor She Wrote posted:

There is no question that Hillary would have been better than Trump in almost every conceivable way other than lol factor

source your quotes please?

nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax

OXBALLS DOT COM posted:

Trump actually shows that the extremely advanced and sophisticated systems of political control in our country are neither as strong or as infallible as they seem. He became President essentially by accident because of the common man deciding to cast a vote that says "no I will not obey". Embrace the hope, friend. All humanity is stupid, even the so-called Masters of the Universe. Ordinary, flawed, vulnerable, but also decent people still matter.

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014
Lol "everything is rigged against the working man by the Wall Street and billionaires, better vote for the billionaire Cheeto that says he doesn't pay his contractors, and all his friends are in Wall Street that'll show everyone I'm an independent thinker and obey no one"

Toadvine
Mar 16, 2009
Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.

Mordor She Wrote posted:

Lol "everything is rigged against the working man by the Wall Street and billionaires, better vote for the billionaire Cheeto that says he doesn't pay his contractors, and all his friends are in Wall Street that'll show everyone I'm an independent thinker and obey no one"

Your flaunted alternative is to support the multi-millionaire greedo who employs slaves and is friends with wall street

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc
Trump's victory shows that Bernie would have won.

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

Toadvine posted:

Your flaunted alternative is to support the multi-millionaire greedo who employs slaves and is friends with wall street

Who might accidentally pass a progressive policy or two and appoint a progressive Supreme Court replacement.

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Mordor She Wrote posted:

Who might accidentally pass a progressive policy or two and appoint a progressive Supreme Court replacement.

The only kind of accident she's having is in her adult diapers.


I'm sure there would be plenty of "accidents" befalling her enemies, though.

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.

Mordor She Wrote posted:

Who might accidentally pass a progressive policy or two and appoint a progressive Supreme Court replacement.

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

OXBALLS DOT COM posted:

The only kind of accident she's having is in her adult diapers.


I'm sure there would be plenty of "accidents" befalling her enemies, though.

Dicks out for Seth Rich

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

Mordor She Wrote posted:

I don't hate Bernie, I voted and volunteered for him, he just never would have actually won against Trump and even if he did the republicans would sand bag him harder than any previous administration

He would have beat Trump like a drum


Gammatron 64 posted:

It's true. I was an ardent Bernie supporter and I knew from day one that he would accomplish nothing thanks to congress.

Maybe. Maybe not. His main thing was organizing the public to force congress' hands to whatever degree they could. Clinton never did that. Bush never did that. Obama never did that. None of them even tried. Obama shut his networks down promptly after winning so he was actively opposed to it. Maybe it would've worked, who knows!

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Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
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Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

VikingSkull posted:

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

You know like how Bill didn't appoint Ruth Bader Ginsburg

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.

Mordor She Wrote posted:

You know like how Bill didn't appoint Ruth Bader Ginsburg

just lol that you think Hillary's presidency would've resembled Bill's at all

if she took cues from him she, I dunno, might have won?

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BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

Mordor She Wrote posted:

You know like how Bill didn't appoint Ruth Bader Ginsburg

Bill also know how to win elections so don't think Hillary would do anything similar to Bill.

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