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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Looke
Aug 2, 2013

who is tim dawson lol

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Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
Imagine the House of Commons is a car

Knifegrab
Jul 30, 2014

Gadzooks! I'm terrified of this little child who is going to stab me with a knife. I must wrest the knife away from his control and therefore gain the upperhand.
OK, thanks guys, one more question, and I apologize because it is a very ethnocentric one.

Though I am sure there are many many factors, including her being an out of touch wheat running moron, do you think a part of this is a global reaction to Trump? Like is the rest of the world recoiling at what we've done and making sure you're not doing the same? I noticed a sense of this in the french election as well. I am not saying America is responsible for everything but just curious if our current admin is in some way acting as a global immunization to stupid government.

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.

Looke posted:

who is tim dawson lol

A gaping vaj

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE

Fans posted:

12 possibly 13 as one left to go. They used to have a majority of 4

They've also only done this well because of winning 12 seats in Scotland as protest votes against a second Scottish independence referendum, entirely unconnected to May's performance

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
not sure May has really put any thought into clinging on, she can't possibly believe that she can stabilize the ship

maybe she's just been awake for too long

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!







communism bitch posted:

She's basically going to pretend it never happened.

The George Costanza defence.

qhat
Jul 6, 2015


Knifegrab posted:

OK, thanks guys, one more question, and I apologize because it is a very ethnocentric one.

Though I am sure there are many many factors, including her being an out of touch wheat running moron, do you think a part of this is a global reaction to Trump? Like is the rest of the world recoiling at what we've done and making sure you're not doing the same? I noticed a sense of this in the french election as well. I am not saying America is responsible for everything but just curious if our current admin is in some way acting as a global immunization to stupid government.

No.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Knifegrab posted:

OK, thanks guys, one more question, and I apologize because it is a very ethnocentric one.

Though I am sure there are many many factors, including her being an out of touch wheat running moron, do you think a part of this is a global reaction to Trump? Like is the rest of the world recoiling at what we've done and making sure you're not doing the same? I noticed a sense of this in the french election as well. I am not saying America is responsible for everything but just curious if our current admin is in some way acting as a global immunization to stupid government.

Not even slightly.

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

sassassin posted:

would(n't complain)

the national media coverage at the time was basically "lol who is this loving goober complaining about a naked Rihanna in his field?"

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
It's funny, I googled Albert Steptoe and Jeremy Corbyn and apparently the Daily Mail et al tried to make a thing of comparing Corbyn to Albert Steptoe like that was a bad thing. I'm not British but I'd vote Steptoe for MP, even if his son was a knob.

qhat
Jul 6, 2015


Theresa May had stunning approval ratings at the start. She's just so bad at campaigning and Jeremy is so good at it that she was able to catastrophically lose that lead.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)
According to Wikipedia the single cover came first.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Can someone explain to me what would come of May forming a coalition with the DUP?

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






It's a reaction against the last couple of elections, and their results were inspired by some of the same factors that boosted Trump, but beyond that no.

Knifegrab
Jul 30, 2014

Gadzooks! I'm terrified of this little child who is going to stab me with a knife. I must wrest the knife away from his control and therefore gain the upperhand.

sassassin posted:

Not even slightly.

Fair enough. Good luck England, hopefully everyone can slowly start walking away from these gross past few years of reactionary conservative over reach.

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Grouchio posted:

Can someone explain to me what would come of May forming a coalition with the DUP?

For one thing, the Tories would be forced to remember that NI exists

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Tsaedje posted:

They've also only done this well because of winning 12 seats in Scotland as protest votes against a second Scottish independence referendum, entirely unconnected to May's performance

I really hope that there are some soft-labour/liberal die-hard unionists who only voted conservative because all the leaflets said only ruth davidson can stop an independence referendum, who gradually realise that the tories they voted for are actually behaving like goddamn tories and maybe don't vote for them next time. this is my great dream.

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

According to Wikipedia the single cover came first.

Yea the single cane out just before the album Piece of Mind.

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE

Grouchio posted:

Can someone explain to me what would come of May forming a coalition with the DUP?

She doesn't even know yet, nobody else has a better chance of guessing

qhat
Jul 6, 2015


Grouchio posted:

Can someone explain to me what would come of May forming a coalition with the DUP?

She tries to get a soft border with Ireland knowing that the EU won't agree, the EU tells them to go gently caress themselves, the DUP pulls out of coalition and Theresa suffers a vote of no confidence and potentially a new general election.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Knifegrab posted:

Fair enough. Good luck England,

oh you were doing so well

Fans
Jun 27, 2013

A reptile dysfunction

Knifegrab posted:

OK, thanks guys, one more question, and I apologize because it is a very ethnocentric one.

Though I am sure there are many many factors, including her being an out of touch wheat running moron, do you think a part of this is a global reaction to Trump? Like is the rest of the world recoiling at what we've done and making sure you're not doing the same? I noticed a sense of this in the french election as well. I am not saying America is responsible for everything but just curious if our current admin is in some way acting as a global immunization to stupid government.

Trump barely came up. This was a very UK focused election sorry

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Knifegrab posted:

OK, thanks guys, one more question, and I apologize because it is a very ethnocentric one.

Though I am sure there are many many factors, including her being an out of touch wheat running moron, do you think a part of this is a global reaction to Trump? Like is the rest of the world recoiling at what we've done and making sure you're not doing the same? I noticed a sense of this in the french election as well. I am not saying America is responsible for everything but just curious if our current admin is in some way acting as a global immunization to stupid government.

I dunno actually, I don't think it's a major factor but there's pretty much universal revulsion of Trump in this country and the pictures of him and May holding hands were widely used to attack her. I think Trump also gives a smidge of energy to young activists as he so obviously represents all that's vile and moronic in the world. He's a big target and association with him is anathema to them.

hit button
Mar 18, 2012


I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the idea of Trump being an influence. People do tend to assume that the way things have been in the recent past will inevitably continue in the future, and this contributes to electoral apathy. Trump/Brexit have demonstrated that unexpected results are possible, and that voting makes a genuine difference. That lesson will have most formative to younger voters.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

qhat posted:

Theresa May had stunning approval ratings at the start. She's just so bad at campaigning and Jeremy is so good at it that she was able to catastrophically lose that lead.

also Theresa had basically walked into the leadership and was getting good ratings on the back of not having to actually do or say anything substantial yet

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Knifegrab posted:

OK, thanks guys, one more question, and I apologize because it is a very ethnocentric one.

Though I am sure there are many many factors, including her being an out of touch wheat running moron, do you think a part of this is a global reaction to Trump? Like is the rest of the world recoiling at what we've done and making sure you're not doing the same? I noticed a sense of this in the french election as well. I am not saying America is responsible for everything but just curious if our current admin is in some way acting as a global immunization to stupid government.

I would personally suggest that the UK doesn't greatly give a poo poo about the US other than to think you're all invariably idiots whatever you do.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Grouchio posted:

Can someone explain to me what would come of May forming a coalition with the DUP?

the DUP while pro brexit are also pro peace process. The RoI said it isn't going to do any bullshit "the UK border is actually on the RoI coastline" system, which means that the DUP are probably going to demand freedom of movement on some level.

Additionally, the DUP are literally the equivilent of Sinn Fein so they're the political arm of the various Protestant paramilitaries that existed in the UK. Now the DUP is relevent this is going to get a spotlight shined on it *repeatedly* and theresa may is going to have to explain why exactly she loves being in government with terrorists.

the DUP are also right wing lunatics who hate abortion, the gays, gay marriage, any kind of equality for the LGBT community and additionally once called for all the catholics to be ejected from ulster. They're basically the BNP, if the BNP was irish and called the INP.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Angepain posted:

oh you were doing so well

Do be fair, they haven't had a war with you guys in centuries. They have no way of knowing your geography.

SpaceDrake
Dec 22, 2006

I can't avoid filling a game with awful memes, even if I want to. It's in my bones...!

Knifegrab posted:

Hey guys, sorry I am a stupid American trying to understand everything that is happening so could someone please correct me where I am wrong?

- Cameron calls for brexit, it fucks up, Cameron resigns and Theresa May replaces him?
- Teresa May smelling blood in the water and also wanting a mandate (basically a reason to say the country supports her since she was never elected), calls for a snap election.
- Despite early predictions her party did well but not well enough? Or did her party do poo poo? This is the part I can't quite figure out. Regardless its clear it didn't do as clear as she expected/claimed. Does this mean her mandate dies? Does she resign? Are you guys still continuing with brexit?

Sorry for this, I am finding a hard time finding something to sum up what is happening as opposed to what is happening right now.

In addition to everything, imagine if Bernie was actually leader of the Democrats. Imagine, if you will, all the naysaying press from the center-liberals about how he's a bad person, he's far too left, the country will never vote for him, he's unelectable, he'll lead Democrats to the destruction of their party, lots of his own party members in Congress were against him despite the actual party members voting him into power, etc.

And then, when it comes down, Bernie still doesn't win outright, because he had to come back from a full mile behind due to all the negative press, but he still got the Democrats their biggest increase in vote percentage since Franklin Roosevelt and he's now being mentioned in the same breath as Roosevelt and leaves the Republicans sitting in bed with Tea Partiers, some of whom might just be former domestic terrorists.

That's Jeremy Corbyn, the Absolute Boy.

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE
May has to somehow juggle DUP anti-gay anti-catholic extremists and Scottish Tories, led by a lesbian engaged to an Irish catholic in order to have a chance of her government not collapsing. Then add in the rest of the party's deep divisions over europe, and she's basically doomed. The only thing uniting the Tories is the prospect of Prime Minister Corbyn

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
Simon Wren-Lewis (not a Blairite by any stretch, but who endorsed Owen Smith) writes a thing.

key claim:

quote:

The days when Labour politicians needed to worry about headlines in the Mail or Sun are over.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
someone start a book for what happens first, UK Prime Minister Jeremy Corbyn or US President No-Longer-Trump-Because-They-Impeached-Him

Acaila
Jan 2, 2011



I really didn't see the handholding being used in the election. Hell the climate agreement came up more and that didn't come up much.

I really hope the Tories doing so well in Scotland is cos ScotLab are so poo poo (Lib Dems too), and if they get cool and good people running things it will look up.

Also well done to Angepain for leaping on that one before I did :)

Magner
Oct 21, 2010
For what it's worth we've generally stopped pointing out who used to be a terrorist here in NI. We'd never get anything done otherwise. Not that we get much done.

Extreme0
Feb 28, 2013

I dance to the sweet tune of your failure so I'm never gonna stop fucking with you.

Continue to get confused and frustrated with me as I dance to your anger.

As I expect nothing more from ya you stupid runt!


Can't wait for the Knives to come out for Kezia Dugdale.

Renaissance Spam
Jun 5, 2010

Can it wait a for a bit? I'm in the middle of some *gyrations*



Jesus Christ, I've been joking that it's House of Cards but...gently caress, Gavin Williamson is going to get his Machiavelli on isn't he?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Extreme0 posted:

Can't wait for the Knives to come out for Kezia Dugdale.

I don't know if scottish labour are allowed knives at this point.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Nigel Farage was our Trump-alike.

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Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Extreme0 posted:

Can't wait for the Knives to come out for Kezia Dugdale.

Who are the best people to replace her with now? Last time I was paying attention, looked like they'd run through all their top brass through the chain resignations of the last few years

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