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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Lockerroom talk is lockerroom talk. How you conduct yourself in public is different. I guess you are not aware of the ad I'm talking about, but I saw it so many times in Iowa I got sick of it. Trump was angrily swearing during a campaign speech in front of a large cheering crowd.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Swearing is bad for Dems and good for GOP OH YEAH? *Chokeslams U*
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Javes posted:When/where did the notion of Paul Ryan being a policy wonk come from? The same place every dumb regressive idea comes from. They just keep repeating it until people get tired of correcting them.
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Rigel posted:I guess you are not aware of the ad I'm talking about, but I saw it so many times in Iowa I got sick of it. Trump was angrily swearing during a campaign speech in front of a large cheering crowd. A private rally with friends and supporters at an indoor convention center is effectively a lockerroom. Gillibrand was speaking outdoors to students.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:A private rally with friends and supporters at an indoor convention center is effectively a lockerroom. So she should have used her outdoors voice then? 🤔 Edit: I legit have no idea what you're saying. CascadeBeta fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Jun 9, 2017 |
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Jun 9, 2017 18:36
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ima poo poo all over this here fuckin bar
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Jun 9, 2017 18:37
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students are normally known for keeping their language clean
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Javes posted:When/where did the notion of Paul Ryan being a policy wonk come from? Washington reporters don't actually read proposals or do math, if it looks impressive that's good enough.
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It seems the consensus of the thread is that the greatest threat to Trump's presidency is too many McNuggets.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4QNXnNftWk
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You mean he hadn't studied this stuff before? Like during the transition?  "I'm new to this and don't know these darn laws and you're silly constitution, so I guess I'll learn them" is a thing the President of the United States actually said. Where can I see this full conference in all its stupidity?
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Jun 9, 2017 18:38
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:A private rally with friends and supporters at an indoor convention center is effectively a lockerroom.  Bullshit, like loving hell that qualifies as "lockerroom".
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evilweasel posted:Washington reporters don't actually read proposals or do math, if it looks impressive that's good enough. "He helped Scott Walker pay teachers less so he'll be great at balancing the federal budget!"
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I'm pretty sure he's doing the republican parlor trick of "Hey! Look how big this book of regulations is! Isn't that crazy!"
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Leon Trotsky 2012's just giving you a preview of how well anything "out of the ordinary" would play for Democrats, i.e. they are absolutely not going to get away with totally innocuous things (like cursing) that Republicans would just soar right by with It's extremely easy to imagine all of the excuses Republican commentators will have when a Democrat gets poo poo on by the media for doing something Trump got away with cleanly in 2016. All too easy.
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Snuffman posted:You mean he hadn't studied this stuff before? Like during the transition? ya he's also the current republican standards bearer lol and idolized by 30% of the population lol at least they're consistent. they loving hated obama and the man could probs recite the constitution word for word
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Swearing does have negative electoral consequences for Democrats. Nah, I'm calling bullshit on this as well. (so to speak!) Voters who would write off a candidate for swearing at all, in any rally anywhere, are not going to vote for Democrats under any circumstance. Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:A private rally with friends and supporters at an indoor convention center is effectively a lockerroom. The  est troll.
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Javes posted:I'm pretty sure he's doing the republican parlor trick of "Hey! Look how big this book of regulations is! Isn't that crazy!" Just write "Don't do bad things!" on a piece of paper, so easy, how did these politicians never learn this?
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CascadeBeta posted:So she should have used her indoor voice then? 🤔 For better or worse, context is important. Donald Trump was not associated with urban life the way that Gillibrand is. He is a man of the white working-class in rural and suburban America. The same group that Gillibrand needs to appeal to. When Gillibrand does things like: - Drop the "F bomb" - Pursue energy policies that make careers in extraction industries redundant - Dress in a certain style - (saggy pants, T-shirts with memorials on them, and gold jewelry) - Talk about guns in a context that is 100% through the lens of a city-dweller - Disproportionately picks music with lower treble levels - Highlights transportation policies that are anti-car or don't seem like rural lifestyle was considered when formulating them That helps reinforce her image as urban. Being urban is antithetical to being white working-class. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Jun 9, 2017 |
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Dexo posted:Oddly enough the person in the administration who comes out looking the best is Rick loving Perry. Because he's just stayed quiet listened to the career people, and is just doing his job. This is an unsettling reality that we live in.
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This is going to sound terrible but I don't want a woman on the ticket next time. I mean, I would love Gillibrand or Harris as President. I wanted Clinton so badly to become president. I voted for her in the primary and donated and of course voted in the general for her. I honestly believe being a woman cost her a lot of votes. Every little issue with her was magnified 1000x worse than it would have been with a male candidate. If you run that election over, with a highly qualified but kinda boring candidate who is actually quite progressive, but over decades of service has taken stands that seem questionable to liberals 20 years later, I think that person wins. (That person is John Kerry, btw). I want the 2020 win to be massive enough to bring out libertopia, and I don't want to lose votes the same way Clinton did. It's not fair. It's terrible and I hate myself for saying it. But I want to win and win big and I think you need a ticket with a folksy charming white guy and a clean cut "articulate" black guy.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Donald Trump was not associated with urban life the way that Gillibrand is. He is a man of the white working-class in rural and suburban America. But he literally couldn't be farther from that demographic except for the color of his skin. Every last one of his actions has been a huge gently caress you to the working class.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:
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i really want to win but i dont think having a black man from chicago is going to appeal to voters. THEY ONLY RECOGNIZE THEIR OWN.
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Hollismason posted:" Politics should become more circus like " - some loving idiot That would be idiotic, but that's not what people are talking about here. People are talking about channeling real, authentic anger that people are feeling about our horrible government. One can argue whether or not Gillibrand or Perez or whoever is succeeding in making it seem real and authentic, as opposed to just being gimmicky (I haven't seen Gillibrand's speech, so I'm reserving judgment there), but come on.
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PhazonLink posted:Numbers guy. This is what someone who isn't holding the bar down looks like
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Hellblazer187 posted:This is going to sound terrible but
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skylined! posted:ima poo poo all over this here fuckin bar And suddenly I like you again.
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Majorian posted:That would be idiotic, but that's not what people are talking about here. People are talking about channeling real, authentic anger that people are feeling about our horrible government. One can argue whether or not Gillibrand or Perez or whoever is succeeding in making it seem real and authentic, as opposed to just being gimmicky (I haven't seen Gillibrand's speech, so I'm reserving judgment there), but come on. It does come across a little forced when she says "gently caress," but she does say that Trump was "bitching" about something almost like she wasn't even thinking about it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHuaMkblfpg
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PhazonLink posted:Numbers guy. On the topic of embarrassing photos, someone in the previous Trump thread posted a really hilariously awful family photo of the Huckabees that wasn't this awful one:  I think it was a Christmas photo, but I can't seem to find it online.
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Every time you wring hands about swearing, a Republican gets its wings.
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Hellblazer187 posted:What in the actual gently caress He's trolling you. It's a thing he does.
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Snuffman posted:You mean he hadn't studied this stuff before? Like during the transition? You're not surprised. You're not shocked. He'd done none of these things and you know it.
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I don't know how people aren't realizing that Trotsky 2012 is loving with us. Kirsten Gillibrand, the senator from NY who wears sagging pants and chains
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RiggenBlaque posted:On the topic of embarrassing photos, someone in the previous Trump thread posted a really hilariously awful family photo of the Huckabees that wasn't this awful one: Is this picture wheezing for anyone else?
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I can't tell you how happy I'd be to be wrong about this but I think being a woman is an automatic -2 or -3 nationally.
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I'm enjoying the shifting narrative as the day goes on from "LEAKY LEAKER MUST BE ARRESTED!" to "Umm...Oh, just Trump throwing lawsuits at someone he doesn't like again...nevermind".
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Every two generations or so every swear gets normalized to be normal words and other words (including words that were once acceptable) become taboo. No one really cared 20 years ago if you used religious swears, now no one really cares if you use body function swears, they are rude words at best. "Swears' that target types of people are now the ones that hold the most cultural power and have actual "you will lose your job" potential level of taboo, both to say them and hurt people and not like to hear people say them.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:- Dress in a certain style - (saggy pants, T-shirts with memorials on them, and gold jewelry) This is the weakest weak sauce troll.
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