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So is Oney Lorcan an NXT Forever guy?
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Jun 8, 2017 22:54
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He seems like he is in the good hand position. He goes out there to have good stiff matches and lose.
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Jun 8, 2017 23:13
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There's no evidence that anybody is 'NXT Forever'. People thought Samoa Joe might be a permanent resident, and look how quickly he moved on to where he is now. Everybody on NXT is going to either bottom out and leave or move on to Raw/SD eventually. Some might do it in months and others may take a year or two, but WWE isn't going to hire people specifically to sit in developmental forever.
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Jun 8, 2017 23:29
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I really feel like Hero was signed so no one else could have him. There is no way Vince will be cool with him.
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Jun 8, 2017 23:34
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We're long past the point of NXT as a developmental brand. It has to hold water as a show, not a testing ground.
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Jun 8, 2017 23:55
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its peaked as a third brand and people only discuss it to speculate when the roster will graduate to the graveyard that is the main roster so it oughta focus on development
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Jun 8, 2017 23:58
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NXT is in the UK at the minute but has no show booked for Belfast. Was attendance that bad last time? There did seem to be a fair few empty seats and half the arena was curtained off to begin with, but the crowd was hot.
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Jun 9, 2017 00:29
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pressedbunny posted:There's no evidence that anybody is 'NXT Forever'. People thought Samoa Joe might be a permanent resident, and look how quickly he moved on to where he is now. Everybody on NXT is going to either bottom out and leave or move on to Raw/SD eventually. Some might do it in months and others may take a year or two, but WWE isn't going to hire people specifically to sit in developmental forever. 'How quickly'? Joe was in NXT for like a year and a half.
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Jun 9, 2017 04:45
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1.5 years is a very short time in comparison to forever.
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Jun 9, 2017 04:46
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Grozz Nuy posted:'How quickly'? Joe was in NXT for like a year and a half. It felt like a million years
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Jun 9, 2017 05:12
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Grozz Nuy posted:'How quickly'? Joe was in NXT for like a year and a half. To be fair, "Developmental" to "Fighting Brock loving Lesnar" in about two years is a pretty quick turnaround. I think even Roman took a little longer than that.
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Jun 9, 2017 06:35
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Roman was in FCW for two years, finished up in NXT for four months, then spent two years in The Shield before actually main eventing solo. So yeah, Joe is way ahead of that trajectory.
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Jun 9, 2017 07:24
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pressedbunny posted:Roman was in FCW for two years, finished up in NXT for four months, then spent two years in The Shield before actually main eventing solo. To be fair though joe had been wrestling for over a decade before coming to NXT.
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Jun 9, 2017 07:42
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You should probably compare Joe to Punk, Danielson, or Styles since he was in their era and not a guy who started in FCW.
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Jun 9, 2017 07:51
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I actually think Braun's had the biggest fast track of all the in-house developmental talent, even more so than Roman. He had literally zero TV matches in NXT, debuted straight to the main roster as part of the Wyatts, and 2 years later is penciled in to headline SummerSlam against Lesnar.
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Jun 9, 2017 09:04
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The_Rob posted:I really feel like Hero was signed so no one else could have him. There is no way Vince will be cool with him. Don't think it's a coincidence he was re-signed when Tye was moving up. Figure he was brought in to be the veteran to work with younger guys. As for why he would agree to that; he may have been promised a coaching gig down the line, and it seems likely his girlfriend will be starting after the women's tournament.
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Jun 9, 2017 09:17
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i cant take 'oney lorcan' seriously because his name is 'oney lorcan
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Jun 9, 2017 12:03
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Norwegian Rudo posted:Don't think it's a coincidence he was re-signed when Tye was moving up. Figure he was brought in to be the veteran to work with younger guys. I think people really underestimate the draw of a steady paycheck, not having to travel all that much, and having poo poo like paid time to recover from injuries. Like yeah sure you could make 80k/year on the indies traveling the entire world and praying you don't break your loving neck, or you could make 60k/year and live across the street from the venue you are at 75% of the year and if you do break your loving neck you get a good surgeon and don't have your kids starve to death.
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Jun 9, 2017 14:17
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I guess Takeover Brooklyn 3 went on sale today? If you're looking to go it looks like the market is definitely not as hot as it was last year, tickets are easy to get.
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Jun 9, 2017 18:55
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Engagement news!!! https://twitter.com/BinkyInTheHouse/status/873258639296942080 https://twitter.com/MontezFordWWE/status/873288288383062017
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Jun 9, 2017 22:26
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Who was the lady that slapped Andrade?
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Jun 9, 2017 23:14
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Thea Trinidad. She's been around a bit watching him from the crowd but never on TV until now, since they just finalized signing her. She's also playing AJ in the Paige movie.
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Jun 9, 2017 23:26
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Aphrodite posted:Thea Trinidad. She was Rosita in TNA like 8 years ago.  Really surprised WWE took this long to sign her. Given her looks, how well spoken she is and life story (her father died in 9/11). But I will say she's a poor in ring wrestler (currently).
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Jun 9, 2017 23:35
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFKe9Ej0jJU
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Jun 10, 2017 00:19
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rovert posted:Been lead to believe the Mae Young Classic's "Brian Kendrick" will be revealed this week. Sincerely don't know who the ex-WWE person is. The likes of Victoria, Winter, Melina etc all still wrestle though. This got delayed unfortunately. Trying to figure it out is the elusive thing ever. Lots of people have heard Molly Holly rumours though.
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Jun 10, 2017 03:23
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has Molly Holly played heel before? Would smarks, who probably know her reputation as the Percy Pringle of women's wrestling, buy her as one?
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Jun 10, 2017 04:08
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Basic Chunnel posted:has Molly Holly played heel before? Would smarks, who probably know her reputation as the Percy Pringle of women's wrestling, buy her as one? I don't really mean playing heel more just a returning WWE veteran. She did play a heel for a long time in WWE.
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Jun 10, 2017 04:11
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He doesn't mean she'll work as a heel, he means she's going to land a 360 spinning piledriver for a 2 count.
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Jun 10, 2017 04:13
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Basic Chunnel posted:has Molly Holly played heel before? Would smarks, who probably know her reputation as the Percy Pringle of women's wrestling, buy her as one? Molly heel run was great and she had a great Mania match with Trish. I think it was title vs hair to blow off a long feud too.
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Jun 10, 2017 04:21
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The mania hair match was with Victoria
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Jun 10, 2017 05:25
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Wasn't Molly in the first WWE women's cage match, or am I thinking of Trish and someone else?
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Jun 10, 2017 06:32
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I think it was Lita and Victoria during one of those Raw Roulette shows.
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Jun 10, 2017 07:28
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Basic Chunnel posted:I guess Takeover Brooklyn 3 went on sale today? If you're looking to go it looks like the market is definitely not as hot as it was last year, tickets are easy to get. After last year and paying $50 for nosebleeds when you could get upper bowl seats for the same price on Stubhub a couple days before, that's what I'm doing this year. Also, they were doing fewer Takeovers the past couple of years, so there was a clear idea as to what the Brooklyn card would be far out, whereas now very little is known other than Asuka/Ember II.
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Jun 10, 2017 07:40
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You can safely bet on AoP/Heavy Machinery in some fashion and probably McIntyre vs. Roode. Probably a Bate vs. Dunne rematch? Unless they decide to do that on their UK show instead. But yeah for the rest of it, you'd just be buying it hoping that guys like Aleister, Andrade and Gargano all have something good to do.
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Jun 10, 2017 07:57
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Molly Holly is really cool and it'd be great to see her back
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Jun 10, 2017 07:59
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VJeff posted:You can safely bet on AoP/Heavy Machinery in some fashion and probably McIntyre vs. Roode. Probably a Bate vs. Dunne rematch? Unless they decide to do that on their UK show instead. Hero Itami too.
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Jun 10, 2017 08:18
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I'm thinking Roode will drop the belt at Brooklyn, either to Drew or Roddy. Hopefully then they just get the stupid rematch clause out of the way and start rotating other guys into the title picture on a consistent basis. One of the biggest problems with NXT last year is they had the same 2-3 guys in the title scene, wrestling each other on loop for months on end. That would be fine if there was a logical storyline reason for rematches, but too often they just went "welp there's a rematch clause" and sat around with their thumbs up their asses waiting for the next Takeover. It's kinda weird that the Joe/Finn and Joe/Nakamura programs, literal dream matches just a couple years ago, are largely forgotten today while Bobby "Diet Triple H" Roode is having the more memorable title reign.
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Jun 10, 2017 09:00
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Charles Gnarwin posted:Hideo needs to ditch the trash black and brown color way. Hideo is a decade out of date with fashion. Another way of looking at it is that he inspired Samoa Joe's trunks in ROH, which was what, 13 years ago? You can be so influential that you can look boring if you didn't become iconic. Benne posted:It's kinda weird that the Joe/Finn and Joe/Nakamura programs, literal dream matches just a couple years ago, are largely forgotten today while Bobby "Diet Triple H" Roode is having the more memorable title reign. I think that's taking it too far. Finn was a downgrade from Owens, Joe was a downgrade from Finn, Nakamura wasn't a great champ, and yeah Roode has taken so long to find his footing.
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Jun 10, 2017 11:05
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Benne posted:One of the biggest problems with NXT last year is they had the same 2-3 guys in the title scene, wrestling each other on loop for months on end. That would be fine if there was a logical storyline reason for rematches, but too often they just went "welp there's a rematch clause" and sat around with their thumbs up their asses waiting for the next Takeover.
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Raw and NXT are kinda on opposite ends of that spectrum. NXT had a bad habit of wasting all sorts of time between Takeovers while Raw constantly gives away matches for free because they have three hours to fill. Smackdown Live hit a very good balance. When AJ was feuding with Dean, Ellsworth or Cena, it felt like it was must see every week because something really cool could happen at any time while still making you excited for the PPV.
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