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BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy
I unironically want to see DUP in coalition. It would be beautiful beyond imagination :allears:

Eagerly awaiting Hbomberguy's celebration video.

e:

Not Hbomberguy, but there's a Sargon cameo!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzuKaTuk_lw

e2: Why, now isn't this a happy day.

BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Jun 9, 2017

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Augus
Mar 9, 2015


Nobody with a political opinion is ever humble.

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


Arcsquad12 posted:

Oh wow, Corbyn the guy who didn't want to be there really made gains, didn't he. How much pressure will it take to get May to resign? She looks more like a walking corpse than Nicola Murray did before Tucker threw her under a bus.

Correction: Corbyn actually does want to be there, the New Labour people who only put him on the leadership ballot as a sop to 'old Labour' didn't. Unfortunately for them, Corbyn, as an MP with principles, actually resonates with voters (especially the young). And now he's scored that win, they can't stab him in the back, since while he's not won the election proper, this clearly shows that he's not 'unelectable' with the public. I suspect a lot of the scheduled media appearances by Labour MPs today were originally gonna be 'unelectable Corbyn should resign'. Fortunately, young people have done our Grate Britane proud. :britain:

Looking forward to the Hbomb followup video.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

All the dunking on J.K. Rowling was funny. A lot of retweets of months old stuff of how Corbyn would cause Labor to crash and burn.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

What happened to Rowling? She seemed cool before the US election, or maybe Brexit. She's talked in the past about how the social safety net helped her while she wasn't doing well as a writer. Is she just another person who jumped the wrong way after we were all broken by the march of 2016?

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
She's rich mate

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

business hammocks posted:

What happened to Rowling? She seemed cool before the US election, or maybe Brexit. She's talked in the past about how the social safety net helped her while she wasn't doing well as a writer. Is she just another person who jumped the wrong way after we were all broken by the march of 2016?

She's a blairite and likes milquetoast leftism. Talk of taxation and de-privatization scares her on a fundamental level. She emblematic of a generation of progressive liberals who literally cannot comprehend that the solution Blair sold them on was unsustainable hogwash. She supports leftist policy ideas but only when they don't require taxing her, which in practice means that she doesn't because there will always be another 'tough decision' to make. She's a relic from a pre-2008 world where social policies could be combined with the state pushing back its position thanks to debt-fueled consumption and relatively stable employment policies. However, as she's insulated from the consequences of that era due to her wealth and age she literally can't understand why younger generations so desperately crave change today and don't believe in the centrist solutions.

Also,

A Gnarlacious Bro posted:

She's rich mate

MiddleOne fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Jun 9, 2017

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


Progressives are constantly shooting themselves in the foot with their fear of losing and being called commulists.
"I like what this guy says but no way is he gonna win so I'm gonna go with the safe bet"

Baka-nin
Jan 25, 2015

Augus posted:

Progressives are constantly shooting themselves in the foot with their fear of losing and being called commulists.
"I like what this guy says but no way is he gonna win so I'm gonna go with the safe bet"

Oh trust me, JK does not like what Corby says, she's been a committed right wing Labour member for years. Its only now that Labour has started moving to the left that this has come out because she now has plenty to complain about.

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
House elves

I Am Fowl
Mar 8, 2008

nononononono

House elf shoe shiners.

God, Fantastic Beasts was a mess.

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

CharlestheHammer posted:

Oh I thought the tories only had 314.

Even if they had only had 314, Tories + DUP still would have been enough for an effective majority. Sinn Fein has 7 seats and they always abstain, so 322 is the effective majority mark, not 325.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Rowling is a Calvinist. That's often been a doctrine that's sat slightly uncomfortably with leftist politics, what with the whole business of the 'elect' who God has predestined for Heaven - there is such a thing as Calvinist socialism, but it's also the go-to justification for heinous poo poo like the prosperity gospel.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO
Jim Sterling draws a penis.

PASSPARTOUT: THE STARVING ARTIST - Obviously We Draw A Penis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goGZMe33CNc

FoldableHuman
Mar 26, 2017

Yvonmukluk posted:

Correction: Corbyn actually does want to be there, the New Labour people who only put him on the leadership ballot as a sop to 'old Labour' didn't. Unfortunately for them, Corbyn, as an MP with principles, actually resonates with voters (especially the young). And now he's scored that win, they can't stab him in the back, since while he's not won the election proper, this clearly shows that he's not 'unelectable' with the public. I suspect a lot of the scheduled media appearances by Labour MPs today were originally gonna be 'unelectable Corbyn should resign'. Fortunately, young people have done our Grate Britane proud. :britain:

Looking forward to the Hbomb followup video.
Corbyn reminds me a lot of Jack Layton, which is to say he better not break my heart like Jack Layton.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Darth Walrus posted:

Rowling is a Calvinist. That's often been a doctrine that's sat slightly uncomfortably with leftist politics, what with the whole business of the 'elect' who God has predestined for Heaven - there is such a thing as Calvinist socialism, but it's also the go-to justification for heinous poo poo like the prosperity gospel.

link the article if you're going to misremember it, nerd ferretbrain.com/articles/article-161.html

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy
What's more damning is that she wrote a lot of bad books.

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

Mr. Fowl posted:

House elf shoe shiners.

God, Fantastic Beasts was a mess.

What about the thing with goblins?

don longjohns
Mar 2, 2012

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

What's more damning is that she wrote a lot of bad books.

Why are you like this.

...

I am going to see It Comes At Night and I swear to Gorgo and Morbo if it is anything like what I think it will end up being like I will be mildly perturbed. I am gettin real sick of Shyamalan-style twists in my horror films yessir.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Max Wilco posted:

What about the thing with goblins?

they're small, hook nosed, men who are genetically predisposed to be untrustworthy and greedy who run the entire banking and economic system of the wizard world.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

sexpig by night posted:

they're small, hook nosed, men who are genetically predisposed to be untrustworthy and greedy who run the entire banking and economic system of the wizard world.

Is that an allegory to something?

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

MariusLecter posted:

Is that an allegory to something?

It's very subtle.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

MariusLecter posted:

Is that an allegory to something?

yea, it's hosed up Rowling is so overtly anti-Greek in a kid's book

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

[culla=big red]TufFEE did nO THINg W̡RA̸NG[/read]


Look Rowling doesn't hate individual Goblins, she's just against international Goblinry

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
Holy poo poo this is a literal quote, from one of the heroes, meant to be taken as a good view.

quote:

"We are talking about a different breed of being. Dealings between wizards and goblins have been fraught for centuries ... There has been fault on both sides, I would never claim that wizards have been innocent. However, there is a belief among some goblins, and those at Gringotts are perhaps most prone to it, that wizards cannot be trusted in matters of gold and treasure, that they have no respect for goblin ownership."

I wonder if whoever wrote this wiki page had a moment of going 'wait did I accidentally get on The Turner Diaries' fan wiki'.

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Goblin

quote:

Goblins are extremely clever and over the years have dealt with wizard-kind effectively. They are still subservient in the minds of most wizards, but they have established themselves as a vital part of wizarding society. The goblins run Gringotts, the wizarding bank. Therefore, they control the wizarding economy to a large extent. It is unknown if Gringotts is the only bank in the wizarding world. Goblins are extremely clever and more than able to stand up to wizards. The fact that the wizarding population treats them poorly is evidence of the severe injustice built into wizard culture. Ironically, the Fountain of Magical Brethren in the Atrium of the Ministry of Magic shows a goblin, along with a house-elf and a centaur, gazing admiringly at a witch and wizard.

Guys are we sure Voldemort was the magic nazi in this fight?

don longjohns
Mar 2, 2012

Nearly all heroes eventually turn out to be just regular assholes. HP still Good. Rowling bad. There's some good poetry about the racism in her books https://youtu.be/iFPWwx96Kew

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


It's a goblish conspiracy :tinfoil:

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Please someone do a race-reading on Harry Potter.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
twist, the wizarding government wasn't really that mad at Voldemort they were just mad he applied their racial theory to other wizards and not the under races.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
It is an undeniable fact that rich goblins commit more crimes then poor muggles.

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

failing forward posted:

Why are you like this.

'cause it's badly written.

Harold Bloom posted:

I went to the Yale University bookstore and bought and read a copy of "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone." I suffered a great deal in the process. The writing was dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs." I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

MiddleOne posted:

Please someone do a race-reading on Harry Potter.

It's called fantastic beasts and the American wizard community is a fascist autocracy

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Arcsquad12 posted:

It's called fantastic beasts and the American wizard community is a fascist autocracy

The Brittish Wizard community portrayed in Harry Potter is a fascist stazi-like state which orients its society around meritocracy (despite wealth being a meaningless system in the face of magic) that believes in the existence of literal sub-humans and the wizards innate right to dominate the other intelligent humanoid species as long as they're not strictly human. By comparison, the state in Fantastic Beasts is downright white-washed.

don longjohns
Mar 2, 2012

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

'cause it's badly written.

Yes. That totally answers my question. Thanks.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

MiddleOne posted:

The Brittish Wizard community portrayed in Harry Potter is a fascist stazi-like state which orients its society around meritocracy (despite wealth being a meaningless system in the face of magic) that believes in the existence of literal sub-humans and the wizards innate right to dominate the other intelligent humanoid species as long as they're not strictly human. By comparison, the state in Fantastic Beasts is downright white-washed.

"I can't believe Tom Riddle turned into the racist dark lord Lord Voldemort" said the magic president, looking at his statue of the filthy mud races gazing respectfully up at a noble and righteous wizard.

don longjohns
Mar 2, 2012

I am continually surprised (read: not) that Rowling never brought up Voldemort's upbringing as a way of discussing Riddle's downfall. It's like Lucas not addressing the weird cult of the Jedi contributing to Anakin's fall to Darth Vader. Like, yeah, both address the negative aspects of those worlds, but I feel like a direct connection is missing. That and Rowling is way too lovely to Ron. He is the only actual human being in those books.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
also of course our lil Bravest of Lamps is a Bloom stan, of course.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
Bloom is my favorite angry old white dude because he literally claimed that reading books from minority views when you could be teaching THE BARD is not only not a way to help the minority views, but actively hurts them because of course Shakespeare is objectively superior to them and should be focused on.

And then he got mad when people said 'are you loving stupid'

Trojan Kaiju
Feb 13, 2012


BravestOfTheLamps posted:

'cause it's badly written.

It's a book for kids. It's worth looking at the ways the books fall apart as you get older and think harder about it, but "this kids book is bad because she makes repetitive use of simple synonyms" is mostly just useless.

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sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Trojan Kaiju posted:

It's a book for kids. It's worth looking at the ways the books fall apart as you get older and think harder about it, but "this kids book is bad because she makes repetitive use of simple synonyms" is mostly just useless.

Bloom literally does not comprehend that maybe youth literature has different standards to adult and that it's not saying kids are stupid or whatever to say that. Like, he's straight up had that explained to him in talks and all and he just blazed right ahead not understanding that most kids probably shouldn't start their reading lives with a complete collection of Shakespeare in the original old english.

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