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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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Angepain posted:are they just saying "so, uh, gay rights, then?" and filming her reaction? Yup. She looks furious as she talks about assurances Theresa may gave her.
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Gonzo McFee posted:The Tories have just pissed away all their goodwill they got from the gay marriage vote. Rejecting human rights? I feel like it's been difficult to keep track since pigfucker resigned.
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peanut- posted:Given how this one went for them with the backing of the entire media against dysfunctional opposition, I'm not sure why Tory backbenchers would be so keen for another election to happen in a hurry. well, only like ten of them need to think it's a good idea for it to happen. Maybe some backbenchers will think they're god's answer to strategy by trying Baby's First Brinkmanship Attempt and gently caress it up horribly
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Jun 9, 2017 19:50
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Orange Marches are fine to about the same extent EDL rallies are fine. Except that only about 12 people show up for the EDL before they get chased into a pub by antifa and they don't play loud music at 8am on a Saturday.
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Jun 9, 2017 19:50
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ThomasPaine posted:I am being very silly because I am still giddy but the Tory/DUP coalition is going to seriously piss off some of the more socially liberal Tories. What are the chances of any of them saying gently caress it and voting a Labour queen's speech because honestly the idea of JC as PM is preferable and at least prevents the party from ripping itself into pieces quite so violently. Zero, because ultimately Corbyn's Labour is an existential threat to their personal class interests
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Jun 9, 2017 19:50
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On the other hand I am fully for Regicide is A Moral Good. Just make Frottage king through some bullshit first, then it'll be perfect.
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Jun 9, 2017 19:51
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ThomasPaine posted:I am being very silly because I am still giddy but the Tory/DUP coalition is going to seriously piss off some of the more socially liberal Tories. What are the chances of any of them saying gently caress it and voting a Labour queen's speech because honestly the idea of JC as PM is preferable and at least prevents the party from ripping itself into pieces quite so violently. I think they'll get a Queen's Speech passed because none of the Tories wants Corbyn anywhere near Downing Street. Beyond that, though, passing any sort of remotely controversial legislation is going to be very hard, and passing a Brexit deal is going to be an utter nightmare.
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Jun 9, 2017 19:52
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kustomkarkommando posted:The orange order is not going away. The 12th is not going away. The vast majority of 12th marches are perfectly peaceful... This is all true. There are 3000+ OO marches every year and only a handful, I'd estimate less than 10, are contentious. quote:Calling for the death of the OO is exactly what breeds DUP voters who believe there's a conspiracy to destroy Protestant identity Also true.
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Zoran posted:Zero, because ultimately Corbyn's Labour is an existential threat to their personal class interests also because corbyn is known for talking to terrorists and calling them "my friends" rather than either inviting them into government or visiting them in their desert kingdom to sell them arms, as a good prime minister would do.
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Jun 9, 2017 19:52
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MiddleOne posted:Rejecting human rights? Naked, power coveting evil.
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Jun 9, 2017 19:53
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jabby posted:Anyone got any predictions/hopes? I'm confident Diane Abbott will be moved to a less taxing cabinet position. Ed Miliband, Lisa Nandy, Clive Lewis I'd be happy to see back. Possibly even Yvette Cooper or Chuku Umunna, although they'd be on a tight leash. The likes of Hilary Benn can get tae gently caress though. The return of Ed Milliband, unshackled and ready to kick rear end and eat bacon sandwiches  o poo poo cold blooded
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Jun 9, 2017 19:53
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jabby posted:Anyone got any predictions/hopes? I'm confident Diane Abbott will be moved to a less taxing cabinet position. Ed Miliband, Lisa Nandy, Clive Lewis I'd be happy to see back. Possibly even Yvette Cooper or Chuku Umunna, although they'd be on a tight leash. The likes of Hilary Benn can get tae gently caress though. You'd be happy to see Ed back in some kind of power? After 2015? edit: tho maybe I'm not as up on Miliband as I should be TheRat posted:loving hell Police savagery on this scale would cause riots in the US, just saiyan also this remains a wonder of the world
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Jun 9, 2017 19:54
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I'm okay with the existence of orange marches generally I'd just rather they were maybe in the afternoon the hungover students and flute weirdos of the UK can reach a peace agreement I'm sure of it
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Jun 9, 2017 19:55
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Zoran posted:Zero, because ultimately Corbyn's Labour is an existential threat to their personal class interests Also from everything I've seen, Corbyn's main sin is making Rupert Murdoch angry, and that will probably just get worse after last night. Today is a lovely day, though, so from an american, thank you for not loving yourselves.
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Jun 9, 2017 19:55
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Now I need video of that Ruth Davidson interview.
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Jun 9, 2017 19:55
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Taking votes on new av: 1)  2)  3)  Or any other contenders
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Jun 9, 2017 19:56
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:Also from everything I've seen, Corbyn's main sin is making Rupert Murdoch angry, and that will probably just get worse after last night. It's also possible that Rupes gets loving furious at the Tories for making his papers not work with their incompetence and tries to destroy them to show he still has power. Unlikely with Corbyn on the horizon, but he has worked to get Labour into office before.
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Jun 9, 2017 19:57
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SpaceDrake posted:You'd be happy to see Ed back in some kind of power? After 2015? edit: tho maybe I'm not as up on Miliband as I should be you may or may not already know this but maybe some lurker doesn't at least: Ed was, in fact, the surprise relatively-leftist upset of 2010, in that everyone was expecting the blairite guy to win but the less-blairitey Ed squeaked in thanks to the trade union vote. Whether his lovely leadership was due to him or due to his team of minders trying to make sure nothing interesting ever got said is up in the air, but since he's stopped trying to be A Great Leader According To What The Focus Groups Want he might actually be a human being again?
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Jun 9, 2017 19:58
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He was pretty good this campaign wasn't he?
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Jun 9, 2017 19:59
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Angepain posted:Ed was, in fact, the surprise relatively-leftist upset of 2010, in that everyone was expecting the blairite guy to win but the less-blairitey Ed squeaked in thanks to the trade union vote. Whether his lovely leadership was due to him or due to his team of minders trying to make sure nothing interesting ever got said is up in the air, but since he's stopped trying to be A Great Leader According To What The Focus Groups Want he might actually be a human being again? Its pretty clear looking back that whoever was managing Ed basically gave him a straight jacket that afforded no personality beyond Generic Political Drone Mk.1 . Since he left the hotseat hes shown a lot more personality and Corbyn-bae generated a mass of support by being everyones favourite jam-making, alotment-digging grandad.
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Jun 9, 2017 20:00
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SpaceDrake posted:You'd be happy to see Ed back in some kind of power? After 2015? edit: tho maybe I'm not as up on Miliband as I should be
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Jun 9, 2017 20:01
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lol. also, goodness, she's back. What's your view on where the lib dems go from here, out of curiosity?
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Jun 9, 2017 20:01
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His twitter is just full of sass.
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Jun 9, 2017 20:01
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:It's also possible that Rupes gets loving furious at the Tories for making his papers not work with their incompetence and tries to destroy them to show he still has power. Unlikely with Corbyn on the horizon, but he has worked to get Labour into office before. Fair point, Rupee could just babyrage and who knows what he'll do then. Has Rubes ever just done anything like that before?
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Jun 9, 2017 20:01
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Interesting thing. I've just been looking to see if I can find a list of current gay Tory MPs (I can't, anyone help?), but apparently there are between 10 and 12. Would love to know how they feel about jumping into bed with the DUP...
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Jun 9, 2017 20:02
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Angepain posted:as someone who was a student in Glasgow and hence quite enjoyed the prospect of sometimes sleeping during the early mornings I would like to lodge an objection Random Integer posted:Jesus Christ no they are not fine and it is nothing like an Independence Day march. TheRat posted:My political activist left wing mum brought me up to think that orange marches were cuntery of the highest order. From what I've seen of them I don't buy for a second that they just want to follow tradition. Murderion posted:Back when I was in halls of residence at Glasgow Uni, there was an Orange march going past in the street and and all the English students were in the kitchen saying how it was funny they were all dressed up like smarties and how the kids all looked so cute. Wrong comparison I will admit. Was trying to just be as neutral about it as possible, guy I was replying to had sounded like he thougt it was a riot every time. I have had a few orange marches go down my street in NI, in a majority catholic town.
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Jun 9, 2017 20:02
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How did I miss this: https://twitter.com/Ed_Miliband/status/870355982056136704
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Jun 9, 2017 20:04
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kustomkarkommando posted:Calling for the death of the OO is exactly what breeds DUP voters who believe there's a conspiracy to destroy Protestant identity The Orange Order and Protestant Identity need to die because they are objectively lovely things built on prejudice, entitlement and a sense of supremacy traditionally enforced with violence. Pretending they are just a bunch of colourful cheeky chappies doesn't change that.
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Jun 9, 2017 20:04
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Trin Tragula posted:Interesting thing. I've just been looking to see if I can find a list of current gay Tory MPs (I can't, anyone help?), but apparently there are between 10 and 12. Would love to know how they feel about jumping into bed with the DUP... Did Alan Duncan keep his seat? He's gay. Hes a complete poo poo, but thats an entirely separate issue.
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Jun 9, 2017 20:05
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i hate to give ukip any coverage, but the islington north ukip oval office who mimed "terrorist sympatizer" during corbyn's speech has a motivational speaking business called Cojones.biz  look at that loving logo in the banner https://twitter.com/realcojones bollocks
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Jun 9, 2017 20:05
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Do we think there's an appetite for having a proper go at some form of voting reform?
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Jun 9, 2017 20:08
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And Kate Burley with the sucker punch to the face!
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Jun 9, 2017 20:09
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Thanks Ants posted:Do we think there's an appetite for having a proper go at some form of voting reform? Honestly the best chance you have for that being brought through is a party with a strong majority (who for obvious reasons probably wouldn't be in favour of the idea) or a broad coalition of parties. I don't think the temperature is quite right for it amongst the population, but it's something that is now at least in the consciousness. There's absolutely no way the Tories will ever go for it.
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Jun 9, 2017 20:12
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kustomkarkommando posted:The DUP certainly don't want to alienate loyalists and want to keep channels open with them but at the same time there's enough distance between them for the DUP to deny direct links and their relationship is certainly not as close as between SF/IRA army council Not your point I know, but if I understand this right the links at least sound like they may be less tenuous than those between the IRA and jeremy corbyn, so Labour still has some bragging rights. Not that anyone who reads the Mail will believe that, of course.
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Jun 9, 2017 20:13
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Trin Tragula posted:Interesting thing. I've just been looking to see if I can find a list of current gay Tory MPs (I can't, anyone help?), but apparently there are between 10 and 12. Would love to know how they feel about jumping into bed with the DUP... More than that, the Scottish cons all got their seats due largely to strong campaigning from Ruth "actually engaged to a catholic woman" Davidson. The Orange Order and looney prods in general are a wing that the Scottish party has been very much downplaying to bring up their moderate (and modern, because lol anti-Irish racism in 2017) image. A strong association with the DUP could see the Scottish Tory vote vanish.
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Jun 9, 2017 20:13
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(btw, if you're wondering where I was – I genuinely had exams and this thread is a loving nightmare to catch up on near a general election)Angepain posted:lol. also, goodness, she's back. What's your view on where the lib dems go from here, out of curiosity? There's going to be a leadership election within the next year. Don't know whether it's going to be contested. Smart money would be on Jo Swinson; she was a frontrunner before she lost her seat in 2015. Would not be surprised if there are backroom talks already taking place between Labour and the Lib Dems over standing down for each other in key seats in the next election. Richmond Park for Hastings and Rye seems like the most likely trade. The make up of the party is a lot better than it was in 2015. Four women, including Westminster's first ever Palestinian MP and, as far as I know, the first MP selected from an all-disabled shortlist (Stephen Lloyd is deaf).
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e: cheers^Spangly A posted:email your tory mp and demand they cross the floor over the dup I thought this said "over to the dup", but that would also be hilarious
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