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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

Murderion posted:

More than that, the Scottish cons all got their seats due largely to strong campaigning from Ruth "actually engaged to a catholic woman" Davidson. The Orange Order and looney prods in general are a wing that the Scottish party has been very much downplaying to bring up their moderate (and modern, because lol anti-Irish racism in 2017) image. A strong association with the DUP could see the Scottish Tory vote vanish.

Not just the Scottish Tory vote. Remember that this is the same Conservative party who sacked the MP for the Isle of Wight just before the election because of how homophobic he was.

..it's still loving weird to me that I live in a world where I can say that.

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Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Ed milliband doesn't want a cabinet seat apparently: he's been offered shadow environment before and turned it down. Not out of anti-corbyn feeling, but a desire for new blood, is what I heard.

Plasmafountain
Jun 17, 2008

New look announced for Downing Street:

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

https://twitter.com/kevo__b/status/873236426250481664

Lovechop
Feb 1, 2005

cheers mate

Kurtofan posted:

i hate to give ukip any coverage, but the islington north ukip oval office who mimed "terrorist sympatizer" during corbyn's speech has a motivational speaking business called Cojones.biz :stare:

look at that loving logo in the banner

https://twitter.com/realcojones

bollocks

jesus christ, the logo has a big pair of bollocks on it. that's beyond any kind of parody

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Captain Fargle posted:

Not just the Scottish Tory vote. Remember that this is the same Conservative party who sacked the MP for the Isle of Wight just before the election because of how homophobic he was.

..it's still loving weird to me that I live in a world where I can say that.

still trying with the renovations I see

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyKUVWLeMaA

Fans
Jun 27, 2013

A reptile dysfunction

nothing to seehere posted:

Ed milliband doesn't want a cabinet seat apparently: he's been offered shadow environment before and turned it down. Not out of anti-corbyn feeling, but a desire for new blood, is what I heard.

There will be blood :unsmigghh:

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Jose posted:

never campaign about why the opposition shouldn't be voted for. look what just happened here and in america

tbf trump was one case where that was totally justified, even if it didn't work because lol democrats

also i hope you guys call another election so I can support my boy lord buckethead

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
https://twitter.com/crimesofbrits/status/873177532752949251

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari



He's a good lad

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Oh Christ can we not do the your killings were worse than our killings thing. This is exactly why May is a evil oval office for even thinking about this deal.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Random Integer posted:

The Orange Order and Protestant Identity need to die because they are objectively lovely things built on prejudice, entitlement and a sense of supremacy traditionally enforced with violence. Pretending they are just a bunch of colourful cheeky chappies doesn't change that.

Paranoia about the death of Protestant identity is exactly what fuelled the rise of the DUP which remember is a RECENT thing - The DUP exploded in size by preying on sense of discomfort the peace process created in protestants by promising a shining city of NO SURRENDER (only to eventual concede that actually okay maybe things do have to change but if we give an inch they must also give us an inch) to the faithful

You've got to convince protestants that an end to conventional Protestant Identity as expressed by Loyalism does not entail a death of Protestants as a distinct community in a pluralist society which can be tricky to do while calling for the Orange Order to be banned cause while a lot of Protestants don't actually like the Order that much it is one of the most obvious visible expressions of the community.

At some future date maybe the OO will fade away, as it historically has done in the past, but we're a good bit off that

lenoon
Jan 7, 2010


At this point I've been ecstatically drunk for 22 hours, so as hosed as this is if it makes two or three tories think "oh poo poo", then this really is an excellent result

Plasmafountain
Jun 17, 2008

I just couldnt wait

Pershing
Feb 21, 2010

John "Black Jack" Pershing
Hard Fucking Core

Sarah Bellum posted:

The IRA.

Edit: also, no apologies needed. We're obsessed with politics in "are wee prawvince" and we know it's complicated. We don't mind explaining or answering anything. Relish it, in fact.

But how widespread is the belief that the IRA is a bad thing/bad actor? Do they have their partisans today and how numerous are they?

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

Apparently we're already getting protests at Downing Street against May cutting a deal with them.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Angepain posted:

The return of Ed Milliband, unshackled and ready to kick rear end and eat bacon sandwiches :unsmigghh:

Ed as shadow minister for top bantz.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:

Fair point, Rupee could just babyrage and who knows what he'll do then. Has Rubes ever just done anything like that before?

A couple of times in Australia, though the big one was like 40 years ago and when he became the spiteful right wing shitheel we all know today. He helped get essentially Australia's Clement Attlee, Gough Whitlam, into power after unbroken decades of Liberal rule. Whitlam didn't give a poo poo about him and wouldn't give him anything in return. So he told his editors to kill him. He helped cause a major constitutional crisis that lost Whitlam his prime ministership and the labour party the government. All because he didn't get his way. He's a loving child.

WhiskeyWhiskers fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Jun 9, 2017

SpaceDrake
Dec 22, 2006

I can't avoid filling a game with awful memes, even if I want to. It's in my bones...!

Pershing posted:

But how widespread is the belief that the IRA is a bad thing/bad actor? Do they have their partisans today and how numerous are they?

learnincurve posted:

Oh Christ can we not do the your killings were worse than our killings thing. This is exactly why May is a evil oval office for even thinking about this deal.

Pretty much quote #2. Both the UDA and IRA were murderous eye-for-an-eye fuckheads during the Troubles. The UDA probably had a fair about of under-table support from London, but the IRA had some backers in Dublin and ultimately it all kept resulting in people taking potshots at schoolgirls based on what religion they were theoretically born into.

Whatever you feel about the Irish Question and whether the island should be unified or if Ulster should remain under the Union Jack forever, the number one priority should be making sure there's no cause to restart the violence. Too many innocent people died during the Troubles and there's no value in restarting it.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

SpaceDrake posted:

Whatever you feel about the Irish Question and whether the island should be unified or if Ulster should remain under the Union Jack forever, the number one priority should be making sure there's no cause to restart the violence. Too many innocent people died during the Troubles and there's no value in restarting it.

okay but what if you're a sociopath who loves power

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.


:vince:

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

Campbell seemingly falling into line and on the offensive for Labour on question time is definitely the sight I needed to see to round off this day. Grayling looks like he wants to be anywhere but there.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Oakeshott is awful

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Skinty McEdger posted:

Campbell seemingly falling into line and on the offensive for Labour on question time is definitely the sight I needed to see to round off this day. Grayling looks like he wants to be anywhere but there.

I really want to believe that the old guard are in fact behind corbyn now he's got some gains and not just playing nice and tempting him into their chamber so they can try to eat him again

I'm uncomfortable with this strange new world when I can no longer necessarily rely on hope being a mistake

Sarah Bellum
Oct 21, 2008

Pershing posted:

But how widespread is the belief that the IRA is a bad thing/bad actor? Do they have their partisans today and how numerous are they?

It depends on the POV. To Irish republicans they were mostly heroes. Unionists and loyalists invariably think of them, and also anyone who doesn't outright condemn them, as sub-human scum of the earth, unlike their own brave heroic terrorists. Middle of the road people tend to see them as despicable actors in a complicated conflict.

The IRA of the Troubles is no more, or at least sleeping. There are small, breakaway dissident groups that call themselves things like 'The Real IRA' and 'Continuity IRA' that carry out sporadic bombings and shootings and are universally loathed. Those are condemned by SF, and they're represented by tiny fringe parties like Érigi, but Unionists do not discern any difference between them and the IRA, and even Sinn Fein. Unionists still use the term "Sinn Fein/IRA" when talking about Sinn Fein to make sure that their electorate keeps drawing that connection.

(I can't make an i-fada due to the BB code, which is frustrating!)

StarkingBarfish
Jun 25, 2006

Novus Ordo Seclorum
Yeah, Campbell is loving dangerous when weaponised.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

I mean your dude took Labor from 'We are about to be destroyed' to 'I nearly became prime minister and also our opponents' only hope to cling to that is to make a pact with ethnoregionalist lunatics.'

That seems like it'd have a way towards calming skepticism about his political abilities.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

https://twitter.com/owenjones84/status/873260779969138688

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/liamyoung/statu...r%3D930%23pti22

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010


So what's your opinion of the lib dems hitting double dog its and the death of quisling snake Clegg?

Skarsnik
Oct 21, 2008

I...AM...RUUUDE!




Thanks Ants posted:

Oakeshott is awful

She really is

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

Hey look a lib dem!

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

Skarsnik posted:

She really is

Top notch sword classifications though.

Captain Gordon
Jul 22, 2004

:10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux:
Average British person after reading the DUP manifesto:

https://giphy.com/gifs/lemur-vSbcj4NNTDuKc

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Namtab posted:

So what's your opinion of the lib dems hitting double dog its and the death of quisling snake Clegg?

I believe noone is ever justified in hitting dogs, double or otherwise.

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe
I've got some respect for Grayling turning up to take the beating here, he definitely drew the short straw coming on this.

SpaceDrake
Dec 22, 2006

I can't avoid filling a game with awful memes, even if I want to. It's in my bones...!
Speaking of tweets, Owen Jones is feasting on a live crow. https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/873241161917399040

Thanks Ants posted:

Oakeshott is awful

As an American, I keep reading this as "Oshawott is awful" and I get kind of mad

Robot Mil
Apr 13, 2011

Labour just officially won Kensington apparently

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends
In the 99 years of my constituency existing, it had never returned a Labour candidate.... until now. This is good for Corbyn

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TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Namtab posted:

So what's your opinion of the lib dems hitting double digits and the death of quisling snake Clegg?

It's good, tbh.

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