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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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Zero Gravitas posted:Man, the troubles were vicious as gently caress and both sides appeared to have a loving hair trigger. Its not something to discount lightly IMO it's the most british thing ever to call it The Troubles though
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For the record the northern ireland assembly was always going to collapse at the end of this month, power sharing has been officially collapsed since the start of this year and "the institutions" evaporate and be replaced by direct rule from Westminster. Its just smart optics to blame this entirely on May's deal with the DUP which does finally kill any prospects for a last minute solution, which was not going to happen anyway The troubles wont restart. We're just going to have no government probably for some time until another bridging agreement is eventually negotiated whenever that is. The price for that agreement, which may not come for years now, will probably be heftier than it once was.
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Jun 9, 2017 22:08
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:I get that it's purely symbolic for SF, but if the DUP did it they wouldn't be giving the Tories confidence and supply.
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Jun 9, 2017 22:08
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Namtab posted:The Americans seem to need to learn what Wikipedia is But you're so friendly and knowledgeable 
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Jun 9, 2017 22:08
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Let the Scots secede, that way the districts just go away 0_o.
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Pershing posted:But you're so friendly and knowledgeable Friendly?
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Pershing posted:But you're so friendly and knowledgeable Knowledgeable?
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Zero Gravitas posted:Friendly? this election has changed people
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Jun 9, 2017 22:10
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BlueBlazer posted:Let the Scots secede, that way the districts just go away 0_o. Actually don't do this because it turns out we are too wee too poor too stupid.
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Killed By Death posted:The DUP not taking their seats would give the Tories the majority, yes. Why would the DUP do that, though, if they don't get anything from it? And if they're getting something from it, they're still disrupting the GFA. You just slightly reorientate the problem, you don't solve it. Fair enough.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:So they're literal crazy people who actually want to restart the Troubles? I was not expecting that honestly. They're not quite at that point, but they do want to push what they can get away with right up to the limit. You just need to look at the recent collapse of power sharing to see that they are absolutely a party of brinksmanship. ThomasPaine posted:I think it is very unlikely that people are going to start blowing each other up again tbh I wish I could agree, but there are still a significant number of people on both sides who think it was a mistake to ever stop.
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Jun 9, 2017 22:11
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May probably wont be able to avoid having to bring in international mediators now, the Irish government will push for it and the Americans will probably get a bit testy on the issue.
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Jun 9, 2017 22:11
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The Tories have hosed the UK twice in less than one year, how much longer can this idea that they are competent stick around for?
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Jun 9, 2017 22:11
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/09/jeremy-corbyn-prime-minister-labour The end of this 
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Jun 9, 2017 22:11
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Zero Gravitas posted:ANFO is literally fertilizer with oil poured into it whacked into a giant blender. Buying ammonium nitrate in bulk without it being delivered by MI5 however isn't so easy.
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Jun 9, 2017 22:12
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I don't know much about UK or especially Irish politics but I have done some reading on Ian Paisley. He controlled DUP for most of its existence, and was an antisemitic weirdo that adamantly opposed NI power-sharing agreements for almost his entire life. I mean, as posted upthread, people were bombing schoolchildren over this poo poo.
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Jun 9, 2017 22:12
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lmao those Guardian comments wanting Blair back already
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dont even fink about it posted:I don't know much about UK or especially Irish politics but I have done some reading on Ian Paisley. He controlled DUP for most of its existence, and was an antisemitic weirdo that adamantly opposed NI power-sharing agreements for almost his entire life. Yeah but then he became one of the "chuckle brothers" and was specifically forced out of the leadership as the inner circle thought he had gone too soft
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Jun 9, 2017 22:13
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The DUP makes money from the fragile peace. Lets not forget there is more than a whiff of corruption about em. They want money coming in and businesses reaping profits. Bombs going off is bad for business. Power-sharing collapsing is manageable but they are not going to call for vigilantes to take to the streets and the execution of gerry adams like the old days
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Jun 9, 2017 22:15
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Hoops posted:For this week, yes. You will basically never hear about the DUP in the news again after the next few weeks, so they might end up being a great choice for the Tories as it gets them a government that is pretty much 100% Conservative Party in the eyes of the public without having to actually win the seats. If Labour is smart, they won't let this happen. Their best option to torpedo the Tories would be to meticulously document every scrap of pork that floats over the Irish sea to buy DUP votes and to bring it up incessantly in the media and PMQs. With full-on Austerity it shouldn't take too long for a few Tory backbenchers to get fed up with their constituents constantly asking why their local schools and rural bus services have been defunded while the William of Orange Secondary School just received a state-of-the-art new sports field and rifle range. Even half a dozen rebels could sink the ship.
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Jun 9, 2017 22:16
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Thanks Ants posted:The Tories have hosed the UK twice in less than one year, how much longer can this idea that they are competent stick around for? strong and stable, keep on course(to poo poo town)
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Jun 9, 2017 22:16
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Zero Gravitas posted:Man, the troubles were vicious as gently caress and both sides appeared to have a loving hair trigger. Its not something to discount lightly IMO Sure thing back in the 70s but I would genuinely be surprised if it reignited violently. People are still passionate but according to all the evidence (and I have discussed this with people in NI) the people willing to actually revert to armed struggle are limited to a double digit number of bitter old dudes in pubs.
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Jun 9, 2017 22:16
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mrw lord buckethead dabs instead of praising the sun
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Soylent Yellow posted:If Labour is smart, they won't let this happen. Their best option to torpedo the Tories would be to meticulously document every scrap of pork that floats over the Irish sea to buy DUP votes and to bring it up incessantly in the media and PMQs. With full-on Austerity it shouldn't take too long for a few Tory backbenchers to get fed up with their constituents constantly asking why their local schools and rural bus services have been defunded while the William of Orange Secondary School just received a state-of-the-art new sports field and rifle range. Even half a dozen rebels could sink the ship. two, actually, two rebels would gently caress them completely I think
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dont even fink about it posted:I don't know much about UK or especially Irish politics but I have done some reading on Ian Paisley. He controlled DUP for most of its existence, and was an antisemitic weirdo that adamantly opposed NI power-sharing agreements for almost his entire life. Have you seen the DUP's new calendar? It goes January, February, MARCH MARCH MARCH Also SF MPs may not sit in Parliament but they still draw a salary and use their full expense allocation.
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Jun 9, 2017 22:16
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Miftan posted:Jammy bastards with an ancom flag background sounds loving ace.
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Jun 9, 2017 22:17
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Yinlock posted:two, actually, two rebels would gently caress them completely I think Sinn Feinn not turning up gives them a slight safety zone.
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Jun 9, 2017 22:17
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Buying ammonium nitrate in bulk without it being delivered by MI5 however isn't so easy. Plenty of farmers have easy access.
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Jun 9, 2017 22:17
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Soylent Yellow posted:If Labour is smart, they won't let this happen. Their best option to torpedo the Tories would be to meticulously document every scrap of pork that floats over the Irish sea to buy DUP votes and to bring it up incessantly in the media and PMQs. With full-on Austerity it shouldn't take too long for a few Tory backbenchers to get fed up with their constituents constantly asking why their local schools and rural bus services have been defunded while the William of Orange Secondary School just received a state-of-the-art new sports field and rifle range. Even half a dozen rebels could sink the ship. Well personally I'm not looking forward to "THOSE SHIFTLESS IRISH BASTARDS ARE DRAINING US DRY" rhetoric
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Jun 9, 2017 22:17
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Not Operator posted:The Sun had some good potential gang tags, mind. I was hoping for Marxists at Large myself.
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Jun 9, 2017 22:18
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Like we're not a rich place and still suffer from endemic economic problems inherited from years of conflict, we need above-average financial assistance
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Jun 9, 2017 22:19
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TheRat posted:Plenty of farmers have easy access. thats you reported to the police
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Jun 9, 2017 22:19
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Also I'm just watching QT and what the hell is this audience. Booing the suggestion the Corbyn won (but scoreboard!) and laughing away at the idea that he could form a government with LESS MPS THAN THE TORIES. Also Isabel Oakenshotte is a right poo poo
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Jun 9, 2017 22:19
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On the topic of Northern Ireland, '71 was on Film4 the other day and is a good film.
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Jun 9, 2017 22:19
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Is #MAYDUPGVMT a thing yet?
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Jun 9, 2017 22:20
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Jose posted:thats you reported to the police Come at me 
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ThomasPaine posted:Also I'm just watching QT and what the hell is this audience. Booing the suggestion the Corbyn won (but scoreboard!) and laughing away at the idea that he could form a government with LESS MPS THAN THE TORIES. The audience was selected before the election and undoubtedly was padded with Tories.
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Jun 9, 2017 22:21
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Guavanaut posted:Seconded. How do we actually make this happen, assuming someone makes it? I rarely venture outside this thread into SA because fyad and gbs scare me.
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Jun 9, 2017 22:22
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Zero Gravitas posted:Friendly? Knowledgeable? Where 'Knowledgeable' = 'have given answers' and 'Friendly' = 'has not dog-cussed me for asking' That being said, this Guardian explainer for non-Brits helped me out immensely, fellow Amerigoons should read it too.
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Pershing posted:Where 'Knowledgeable' = 'have given answers' and 'Friendly' = 'has not dog-cussed me for asking' UKMT is pretty chill if you're not a racist butt.
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