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irlZaphod
Mar 26, 2004

Kiss the Joycon to Kiss Zelda

I think I ended up on Yuzu's route (by default? I was really bad at saving people). I was stuck on the first boss (Jezebel? I forget) and never went back to it. :smith:

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HGH
Dec 20, 2011
Jezebel is yet another escort map, except now there's a boss and lava everywhere. I can see why it'd be the breaking point.

RickDaedalus posted:

The dub is alright so far. I think I might prefer the original DS version though. I made up voices for all the characters and now they don't sound like how I think they would. I just got to day three so I'll see if it holds up or if there's a sudden drop in quality.
Yeah, same here and for some friends. Everyone had their own mental image for voices, so hearing Spike Spencer and Melissa Fahn suddenly doing 50% of the dialogue was kind of a surprise.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

You get used to the dub after a while, though I'm not sure I ever got used to Cam Clarke voicing the worst character.

Bogart
Apr 12, 2010

by VideoGames
I guess I just like the idea of the MC performing the Holy Chicken Dance until there are no more bells or Evan Jellies.

This...this power. How..?

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
Just here to say that Devil Survivor 2's Female Tico english dub voice is incredible and may be the best thing about the game

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!

ChaosArgate posted:

You get used to the dub after a while, though I'm not sure I ever got used to Cam Clarke voicing the worst character.

He... voices Keisuke?

What a goddamn waste of Cam Clarke, holy poo poo

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

Dragonatrix posted:

He... voices Keisuke?

What a goddamn waste of Cam Clarke, holy poo poo

Ronaldo, I was talking about DeSu2. :v: Keisuke's voiced by Doug Erholtz, I think?

CaptainRat
Apr 18, 2003

It seems the secret to your success is a combination of boundless energy and enthusiastic insolence...

ChaosArgate posted:

Ronaldo, I was talking about DeSu2. :v: Keisuke's voiced by Doug Erholtz, I think?

Yamato is worse than Ronaldo, although I appreciate that the margin is very thin.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

female tico is Good

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
female tico best character. have a nice whee

yamato is also better than ronaldo cause iirc yamato's plans make sense and ronaldo is dumb. also i like a serious character in DeSu2's cast of complete dumbass goofballs + Jungo

Freak Futanari
Apr 11, 2008

CaptainRat posted:

Yamato is worse than Ronaldo, although I appreciate that the margin is very thin.

Not only is Yamato among the best SMT characters, Ronaldo is among the worst. It's like you're the physical manifestation of the concept of being wrong

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
"here's the extremely competent and serious leader of japan's secret society that are investigating the demon aliens, this purple hair'd, 17 year old bishonen" is a really dumb character concept but yeah yamato owns.

CaptainRat
Apr 18, 2003

It seems the secret to your success is a combination of boundless energy and enthusiastic insolence...

Freak Futanari posted:

Not only is Yamato among the best SMT characters, Ronaldo is among the worst. It's like you're the physical manifestation of the concept of being wrong

:shrug: He's a total dick and his "plan" is the worst of the three, we will have to agree to disagree.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

I mean, you're not wrong that he's a dick, but he's at least consistent with his ideals; he respects the people who've proven their chops and when defeated, will concede that his ideals are weaker than yours. If we're comparing endgame plans, his is actually one of the better ones: Ronaldo literally made his up on the spot when he found out Yamato's plan and decided that he wanted to do the exact opposite and one of Daichi's plans was just kill Polaris and leave the state of the world as-is and hope for the best.

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Yamato is an rear end in a top hat. And he's completely real with you about said asshattery. Ronaldo would like to think that he's better than that... but he's really not. Makoto is the happier medium between both in that she's serious and job-centered, but she has a slightly dorky/cute side in that some of the interactions with other people pull her out of her comfort zone.

Now, the question: Who's the best Makoto?
  • Ellie's Stalker? (P2: EP)
  • Boring Emo dude? (P3)
  • Stuffy JP's member? (DeSu 2)
  • Blood-thirsty Student Council President? (P5)

Saagonsa
Dec 29, 2012

P5, easy.

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
it's easily P5, but my Write In is Makoto from Free

the metric i judge all makotos

e: Yamato is weird cause it may be the only time I've liked a Chaos ideal and it's probably helped by the fact that he is well meaning. It's terrible in a functioning society and would hurt countless people, but in a world where you're trying to rebuild society after a complete demon apocalypse, it is all hands on deck and if your hands aren't helping then get off my deck. it's a way better Might Makes Right that other Chaos routes have where it's just Mad Max times apparently

[george costanza voice] we're trying to make a society here, we are supposed to act in a helpful way!

Expect My Mom fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Jun 10, 2017

Strange Quark
Oct 15, 2012

I Failed At Anime 2022
Ronaldo somehow also comes up with the worst plan in the Triangulum arc while Yamato's is the true ending, it's hilarious.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Strange Quark posted:

Ronaldo somehow also comes up with the worst plan in the Triangulum arc while Yamato's is the true ending, it's hilarious.

Ronaldo's plan is infinitely more metal though.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

ImpAtom posted:

Ronaldo's plan is infinitely more metal though.

You're not wrong, but I imagine someone will get tired of the endless wars and resets that they'll just go all Dagda on the rest of the cast and try to sabotage the whole thing.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

Moltrey posted:


Yamato is weird cause it may be the only time I've liked a Chaos ideal and it's probably helped by the fact that he is well meaning. It's terrible in a functioning society and would hurt countless people, but in a world where you're trying to rebuild society after a complete demon apocalypse, it is all hands on deck and if your hands aren't helping then get off my deck. it's a way better Might Makes Right that other Chaos routes have where it's just Mad Max times apparently

[george costanza voice] we're trying to make a society here, we are supposed to act in a helpful way!

I guess we had very different readings of it all. My take on him was that Yamato knew exactly what was going to happen and did jack poo poo to stop it before everything went nuts as he wanted everything to go full on Libertarian paradise.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

Hunt11 posted:

I guess we had very different readings of it all. My take on him was that Yamato knew exactly what was going to happen and did jack poo poo to stop it before everything went nuts as he wanted everything to go full on Libertarian paradise.

I mean, what could he have done to stop Polaris from sending the Septentrions down? Like, to even get an audience with Polaris, he needed to beat down the big 7, so it's not like he could've appealed to it to stay its hand. Psyduck also has like no power when it comes to dealing with Polaris, so it's not like Yamato could've told him "hey go tell your boss not to go gently caress up humanity." Yamato had a whole lot of plans and countermeasures for basically every Septentrion-related scenario, which was probably the best thing he could actually do regarding the invasion.

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
yamato should have known that a hindu god would have wanted to see a 15 y/o girls belly button and prepared accordingly

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

that was probably his main reason for letting airi join jp's tbh.

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST
Also unlike most World of Strength types Yamato's response to failure is not 'YOU HAVE FAILED ME *ZAP*' but more 'Holy crap you' re useless. Go away and hide somewhere before you get hurt. '

Freak Futanari
Apr 11, 2008
Yamato is my friend and i'm going to buy him takoyaki.

RickDaedalus
Aug 2, 2009
I forgot how long it takes to get the cool demons. Being stuck with a jobber cast is starting to get to me. I don't even mean how effective they are, but how dumb they all look. Get out of here, Bilwis. You're just a blue lego with a pitchfork.

Also yeah, Yamato is way more sensible than Ronaldo. My memory might be hazy, but I appreciated a character like Ronaldo. It was nice to have a role reversal. Usually you're part of the scrappy underdogs, but here you're part of the dominating group.

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!

Moltrey posted:

e: Yamato is weird cause it may be the only time I've liked a Chaos ideal

There's one Chaos route in DeSu2.

And it's not Yamato's.

Yamato's is one of two Law routes, sorry.

HGH
Dec 20, 2011
Naoya in DS1's postgame had a pretty good chaos route if you decided to spare everyone.
Even if he is constantly bitching to the tune of "Ugh fine no killing".

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
Yamato's a poo poo. Ronaldo is someone that should had been in DS1 but somehow stuck in DS2, where the people getting murdered by demons barely get mentioned.

He's not wrong at the end of the day, there's people starving and dying and the playable characters are living in JP peeking at girls. I would loving get mad and probably kill one of them too.

Another point in Ronaldo's favour is that his route has Otome, Airi, and Joe while Yamato has Makoto, Fumi and garbage can Keita.

Ruggington
Apr 21, 2012

Freak Futanari posted:

Yamato is my friend and i'm going to buy him takoyaki.

hello i would also like some octopus balls

Strange Quark
Oct 15, 2012

I Failed At Anime 2022
Yamato is my boyfriend

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
wow in a game with Jungo, Joe, Daichi too?

Strange Quark
Oct 15, 2012

I Failed At Anime 2022
Well none of those guys are gonna work all day outside the plane of reality just to make sure you continue to exist

Strange Quark
Oct 15, 2012

I Failed At Anime 2022
Also don't ntr joe

Freak Futanari
Apr 11, 2008

Tired Moritz posted:

He's not wrong at the end of the day, there's people starving and dying and the playable characters are living in JP peeking at girls. I would loving get mad and probably kill one of them too.

Hmmmm, so your solution to "peeking at girls" is "execute the girls with a bullet in the back of the head"

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

HGH posted:

Naoya in DS1's postgame had a pretty good chaos route if you decided to spare everyone.
Even if he is constantly bitching to the tune of "Ugh fine no killing".

In general I appreciate Naoya because his backstory does a lot to explain why he is like he is. That and by the end of the 6th day it is very easy to go full on gently caress god.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)

Freak Futanari posted:

Hmmmm, so your solution to "peeking at girls" is "execute the girls with a bullet in the back of the head"

yes, that is exactly what I meant.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

irlZaphod posted:

I think I ended up on Yuzu's route (by default? I was really bad at saving people). I was stuck on the first boss (Jezebel? I forget) and never went back to it. :smith:

i coulda sworn even if you killed everyone you can still get Atsuro's route

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Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

mandatory lesbian posted:

i coulda sworn even if you killed everyone you can still get Atsuro's route
You need to find Atsuro's 4ch friend / Shoji's senpai. If you find him, yeah, you can still get Atsuro's route. I still think Keisuke needs to survive.

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