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Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Maya Fey posted:

hhm yes that appears to be the logical extrapolation here

There's totally fema camps by my house

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Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

Also how the people who voted to gut every progress policy since the 70s will suddenly change their minds on that whole taxs and muh freedom thing.

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017


Mordor She Wrote posted:

Also how the people who voted to gut every progress policy since the 70s will suddenly change their minds on that whole taxs and muh freedom thing.

i cant imagine what changed since the 70s that would get people riled up.

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

If you give people a good candidate they will vote for them, it's extremely simple. Hillary was festering dog poo poo and lost to trump, a caricature of a cartoon villain.

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.

Mordor She Wrote posted:

Also how the people who voted to gut every progress policy since the 70s will suddenly change their minds on that whole taxs and muh freedom thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgydTUMhtJA

FisheyStix
Jul 2, 2008

This avatar was paid for by the Silent Majority.
If it's one thing the election proved, it was that you can't just do whatever you want when you have a whole ton of money, and still win. It's not unrealistic to say that the next election may even involve courting voters with policies.

canpakes
Jul 26, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
Anyone who knows anything about American politics or American society knows that Bernie would have won.

T.S. Smelliot
Apr 23, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Mordor She Wrote posted:

Bernie wouldn't have won, he couldn't beat the most hated politician in the U.S in the primary, he sure as poo poo couldn't have beaten the frothing at the mouth mad Trump brigade.

Lol Bernie definitely would've won, at least half of Trump's base only voted for him because he wasn't Hillary

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017


FisheyStix posted:

If it's one thing the election proved, it was that you can't just do whatever you want when you have a whole ton of money, and still win. It's not unrealistic to say that the next election may even involve courting voters with policies.

that sounds like an insane pipe dream that couldnt possibly have been illustrated in the past 48h

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

Maya Fey posted:

i cant imagine what changed since the 70s that would get people riled up.

Americans got dumber.

canpakes
Jul 26, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Mordor She Wrote posted:

Also how the people who voted to gut every progress policy since the 70s will suddenly change their minds on that whole taxs and muh freedom thing.

Can you explain

Where you live
What you do for a living
What your parents do or did for a living

I'm trying to understand how someone could be so clueless and supposedly live in the US. It's like you were raised by a TV playing Trevor Noah segments or something.

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.

Mordor She Wrote posted:

Americans got dumber.

yes it had nothing to do with corporate money coopting the DNC

you idiot, you absolute moron

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

A gang of goons posted how they were throwing a fit and voting for Trump because they couldn't vote for Bernie. It's def a thing

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.

Blue Train posted:

A gang of goons posted how they were throwing a fit and voting for Trump because they couldn't vote for Bernie. It's def a thing

I specifically didn't vote for Hillary (or anyone) because NY wasn't contested in the least and I could hold on to my morality

under no circumstance did I desire to vote for that loving clown, or Trump

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

If you want insight on how marketing is poo poo and has ruined America and altruism, watch century of the self, at least the two middle parts

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

VikingSkull posted:

I specifically didn't vote for Hillary (or anyone) because NY wasn't contested in the least and I could hold on to my morality

under no circumstance did I desire to vote for that loving clown, or Trump

You did the right thing friend

T.S. Smelliot
Apr 23, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Mordor She Wrote posted:

lol you actually believe that, Bernie even if he started at the same time would never pull the numbers in the primary that clinton or Obama did. He was too fringe and weird and didn't appeal to the party who is entirely made of crazy people, the republicans. Even if some how Bernie beat Clinton he would have gotten destroyed by Trump in the rust belt by not talking poo poo about immigrants and suggesting that unions are good, both of which are political poison now in the U.S thanks to the republicans. Bernie. Would. Never. Win.

BERNIE WOULD NEVER WIN screamed Mordor at the Trump voters openly acknowledging they would've voted for bernie,

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.
I will go on record now and state that if the DNC runs Hillary again in 2020 I will vote for Trump

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

I am hoping one of you can disprove my statement that Bernie would have won because I have offered both statistical and anecdotal evidence that Bernie would have in fact won. Acknowledge that I am correct and renounce your previous ways or disprove any of what I have said. if you can not do so you should grill yourself or repent

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

It is a simple fact. Earth rotates around the sun. The big bang resulted in the universe. Bernie would have won.

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

T.S. Smelliot posted:

BERNIE WOULD NEVER WIN screamed Mordor at the Trump voters openly acknowledging they would've voted for bernie,

I mean you can say it all day long, but if you voted for Trump, you'll have to forgive me if I think you're full of poo poo that you'd vote Bernie.

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017


ive ran the numbers and hell the results are in: bernie would have won

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

e=mc^2

Let e equal the number of bernies votes in the electoral college
Let m equal the constant failures of trump
Let c equal Trump's votes

Bernie would have won, QED

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.
what if, and this is crazy so hear me out, Bernie didn't win because of collusion

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

VikingSkull posted:

what if, and this is crazy so hear me out, Bernie didn't win because of collusion

Sounds like you like cheese pizza 🙄

Snatch Duster
Feb 20, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
''I, a Hillary supporter, still am with her.''

*posts screen shot of a tab with loli tentacle porn on twitter*

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

"Bernie could never have won" says man who has baffled scientists thanks to his IQ which halves every 30 minutes.

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Bholder and Mordor; present proof against what I've said or acknowledge Bernie would have won; anything else brings great shame on your ancestors

Sophy Wackles
Dec 17, 2000

> access main security grid
access: PERMISSION DENIED.





Water is wet.
Rock is hard.
Fire is hot.
Bernie would have won.

FisheyStix
Jul 2, 2008

This avatar was paid for by the Silent Majority.
Silence, and then the distant sound of heads in sand.

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

Blue Train posted:

Bholder and Mordor; present proof against what I've said or acknowledge Bernie would have won; anything else brings great shame on your ancestors

Bernie would never win, nothing would have stopped Trump's victory and we'll have to live with that forever.

FisheyStix
Jul 2, 2008

This avatar was paid for by the Silent Majority.

FisheyStix posted:

Silence, and then the distant sound of heads in sand.


Mordor She Wrote posted:

Bernie would never win, nothing would have stopped Trump's victory and we'll have to live with that forever.

Ahhh, my patience rewards me once again.

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.

Mordor She Wrote posted:

Bernie would never win, nothing would have stopped Trump's victory and we'll have to live with that forever.

you know what would have stopped Trump?

Hillary's campaign not making him a "pied piper candidate"

:laugh:

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Mordor She Wrote posted:

Bernie would never win, nothing would have stopped Trump's victory and we'll have to live with that forever.

Extremely shameful.

IF HILLARY COULDN'T DO IT NO ONE COULD HAVE IN ANY REALITY. SHE WAS​ OUR SAVIOR AND WE FAILED HER

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

An Apology To Hillary Clinton: We Failed You

Hillary, you were the sacrificial lamb for our democratic process.

11/15/2016 06:22 pm ET | Updated Nov 16, 2016

It seemed impossible. A candidate who made racist, misogynistic and other hateful statements could be elected as President of the United States. Yet here I was late into the night last Tuesday, stunned with the rest of the country. As more and more states began to turn red on the electoral map, the reality set in that Donald J. Trump would be President. And that Hillary Clinton would be defeated. I knew that it was possible, but I had hoped that Americans would come out to vote against division and hate. Everyone underestimated the anger and disaffection of so many Americans. In doing so, we failed to provide a path to unity. To hope. To Hillary.

I am a staunch Democrat and a huge supporter of Hillary Clinton. I am angry and sad and numb in the wake of our new reality- A Republican House, a Republican Senate, Donald Trump as President, and likely a handful of Supreme Court nominees on the horizon. How did we get here? And more importantly, how do we move forward?

As the protests over the results of the election began, I watched the news coverage in earnest, inspired by the number of people coming out to stand up against hate and divisiveness. But the protests also stirred strong feelings of resentment and bitterness for me. This election was lost because of indifference. So to see people coming out to protest, to speak, to rally now, after the election is over, is frustrating.

Where were you before the election? Were you canvassing for Hillary? Were you reaching out to friends and neighbors about the election? Did you talk to colleagues and fellow parishioners about how important it is to vote? Did you post on social media that you intend to vote for Hillary and support her, even if she was an imperfect candidate? Did you reach out to your fellow Americans in the rust belt and talk to them about why they feel left behind and how Hillary will help them rise up again? Did you knock on doors in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Florida or Ohio? I didn’t. And I should have.

I would ask all of the protesters and everyone who feels disappointed by the outcome of this election- Did you vote for her? Because if you were eligible to vote, and didn’t, you helped to elect the man you are now protesting against.

Part of why Trump was elected is because people abstained. This election was as much about a “No” to someone as it was a “Yes” to someone else. And that may be sad, and uncomfortable, but it’s true. In the absence of a choice that you liked or felt passionate about, did you decide not to participate? There was a choice to make and if you didn’t choose Hillary, then you chose Trump. Now we all have to deal with the repercussions of this election.

But, we have to accept the results. People voted. And he won in a decisive victory. It wasn’t like Bush v. Gore. It wasn’t even close. I have struggled to find something to learn from what happened. Something to inspire after the devastation of Hillary’s defeat. A way to move forward through this dark time in which so many Americans voted to elect a man like Donald Trump. I believe that the lesson is clear- Vote. Participate in the political process, because that is how your voice is heard. I acknowledge that there are many people whose vote has been suppressed and we must tackle those issues so that everyone who should vote, can.

Hillary, you were the sacrificial lamb for our democratic process. We had the opportunity to make history and we didn’t do our part. We are sorry and promise to do better. For your sake, and the sake of our country.

So, go ahead and peacefully protest. But then go and register to vote. Register other people to vote. Participate in the system, or try to change it, but don’t stay on the sidelines because you think it doesn’t matter.

Voting is the least we can do to have our voices heard. I voted, but I should have done more. I failed her, I failed my party, and I failed our country.

I didn’t do enough to help elect Hillary Clinton. I would ask each of you who feels disappointed in the outcome of this election to take a moment to reflect, and ask yourself:

Did you?

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Blue Train posted:

If you give people a good candidate they will vote for them, it's extremely simple. Hillary was festering dog poo poo and lost to trump, a caricature of a cartoon villain.

People vote for the candidate they would like to have a beer with. This simple heuristic explains pretty much every modern election. Obama beats Hillary. Trump beats Hillary. Bernie beats both, with even Republicans agreeing thst he was the most likable and had the most perceived integrity of any candidate

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

VikingSkull posted:

you know what would have stopped Trump?

Hillary's campaign not making him a "pied piper candidate"

:laugh:

And bah gawd Bernie would have steamrollered Jeb or *snicker* Ted Cruz

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

Blue Train posted:

Extremely shameful.

IF HILLARY COULDN'T DO IT NO ONE COULD HAVE IN ANY REALITY. SHE WAS​ OUR SAVIOR AND WE FAILED HER

Hillary wouldn't have won either, the only thing Hillary might have done is get more legislation passed and maybe appointed a supreme court justice, but she wouldn't have won.

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

OXBALLS DOT COM posted:

People vote for the candidate they would like to have a beer with. This simple heuristic explains pretty much every modern election. Obama beats Hillary. Trump beats Hillary. Bernie beats both, with even Republicans agreeing thst he was the most likable and had the most perceived integrity of any candidate

I like this argument because Trump is a teetotaler and they still rather drink with him than Hillary lol

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Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Mordor She Wrote posted:

Hillary wouldn't have won either

Obviously

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