bitmap posted:

55kb. our boy shares a limited palette with a crumpet nicely.

Sarah Bellum posted:

SF will not allow her to form a government with the DUP, by taking her to an international tribunal for breaking the terms of the treaty.

Angepain posted:

well we men already knew that women were better than us but more confirmation is always welcome

Sarah Bellum posted:

Captain Fargle posted:

Yes of course. Of all the people who are going to be absolutely delighted to work with Trump Emmanuel Macron is top of of the list.

ukle posted:

Also on another note the Independent is reporting May is going to try and get her ban the Internet bill passed as the first point of business. She is doubling down on the dumb.

forkboy84 posted:

For Norn Iron goons, something I've always wanted to know. Why exactly are the nationalists parties much more strongly associated with left wing politics & the unionists all right wing? Surely there's loads of working class unionists who would vote for a party that looked after their rights while also being for remaining in the UK? And with Fianna Fail & Fine Gael you've obviously got nearby examples of right wing Irish nationalist parties. So how has it ended up as it has?

Unkempt posted:

What is the international tribunal they can take this to, and how binding would it be?

happyhippy posted:

We should save him the time and compile a list of DUP demands here.

I'll start off:

- Rebury Martin McGuinness under the road of Dumcree so they can march over him every 12th.

Sarah Bellum posted:

International Court of Justice, I believe. I don't know how to gauge or quantify how binding it is.

forkboy84 posted:

For Norn Iron goons, something I've always wanted to know. Why exactly are the nationalists parties much more strongly associated with left wing politics & the unionists all right wing? Surely there's loads of working class unionists who would vote for a party that looked after their rights while also being for remaining in the UK? And with Fianna Fail & Fine Gael you've obviously got nearby examples of right wing Irish nationalist parties. So how has it ended up as it has?

Unkempt posted:

What is the international tribunal they can take this to, and how binding would it be?

forkboy84 posted:

For Norn Iron goons, something I've always wanted to know. Why exactly are the nationalists parties much more strongly associated with left wing politics & the unionists all right wing? Surely there's loads of working class unionists who would vote for a party that looked after their rights while also being for remaining in the UK? And with Fianna Fail & Fine Gael you've obviously got nearby examples of right wing Irish nationalist parties. So how has it ended up as it has?

Playstation 4 posted:

Yeah, you're right, they're too dark, I used dumb noise effects and UJ isn't a good scaling flag.



So I made this instead!

forkboy84 posted:

For Norn Iron goons, something I've always wanted to know. Why exactly are the nationalists parties much more strongly associated with left wing politics & the unionists all right wing? Surely there's loads of working class unionists who would vote for a party that looked after their rights while also being for remaining in the UK? And with Fianna Fail & Fine Gael you've obviously got nearby examples of right wing Irish nationalist parties. So how has it ended up as it has?

Kurtofan posted:

what is ecumenism and why do unionists hate it

Kurtofan posted:

what is ecumenism and why do unionists hate it

Jippa posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptd_h0dF7NE

Gum posted:

Different denominations working together and finding common ground

quote:

The poet Derek Mahon was once trying to explain the background to the "troubles" to a French colleague. In Ireland, he said, loyalists were in conflict with republicans; that is, Catholics were sometimes in contestation with Protestants.

"Ah yes," nodded the Frenchman. "And, naturally, the Protestants are republican, while the Catholics are royalists."

Derek tried to explain that in Ireland it was the other way around. But the Frenchman considered this preposterous. It wasn't logical.

Drone_Fragger posted:

Common ground such as concluding that the pope, as a person, does infact exist, followed by a drunken gunfight over if he really is the ultimate authority of gods will on earth or a conceited charlatan.

Sarah Bellum posted:

Poverty and oppression. Working class unionists weren't oppressed, they had employment, education and housing opportunities that weren't available to nationalists. Nationalists really were treated as second class citizens long into the period known as The Troubles. Also, their heroes of the 1916 uprising were trade unionists like James Connolly.

The Insect Court posted:

Given that Corbynistas always yapped about how Corbyn's goal wasn't winning a governing majority(and he didn't) but rather changing the party(he did, Labour neoliberalism is dead), and given that his overperformance in the election guarantees that there will be enough lefty MPs to ensure that there will be lefty options on the leadership ballot next time round(which had been in doubt), then you could make a case for Corbyn stepping down after anointing a successor who shares his commitment to social democratic politics and economic populism but who lacks his particular liabilities and connections to fringe figures and movements. Why let Corbyn's agenda be dragged down by his "We salute Comrade Chavez and our friends Hamas and Hezbollah, Trump-esque NATO/Russia policy, ooh ah up the RA" bits? It's the possibility of Corbyn as PM that will keep the DUP in the coalition no matter what comes.

Personally I don't think it should come to that just quite yet, but there's a decent case to be made for it as we think on how to actually win the next election rather than losing surprisingly well.

feedmegin posted:

The weird thing is that up into like the early 90s women have historically always voted more Conservative than men.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Drone_Fragger posted:

Common ground such as concluding that the pope, as a person, does infact exist, followed by a drunken gunfight over if he really is the ultimate authority of gods will on earth or a conceited charlatan.

Guavanaut posted:

So just the occasional fire bit then?

Drone_Fragger posted:

Common ground such as concluding that the pope, as a person, does infact exist, followed by a drunken gunfight over if he really is the ultimate authority of gods will on earth or a conceited charlatan.

Irony Be My Shield posted:

We're looking at one of the weakest governments in recent history, that will be propped up by fundamentalist ex-terrorists with views that are toxic to the majority of British voters. It will be led by a laughing stock of a PM with her credibility destroyed and who commands no respect or confidence from her MPs. The Tories will try and change horses at some point, but it's difficult to see how they could do this without causing complete chaos in the middle of important international negotiations. And there isn't even an obvious successor. The Conservative Party in general just seems like a loving shambles at this point, with two leaders calling national votes and spectacularly self-destructing in the space of a year.

Meanwhile Corbyn's election result has massively boosted his credibility, and it is likely that far more of his MPs are now on his side. This will allow him to build a better shadow cabinet and boost his image among moderates by appearing with more centrist members of the PLP. The Tories have already thrown all the poo poo they have at him and it's just not working.

I think the onus is on the Conservatives to work out how they can avoid being wiped out at the next (possibly quite imminent) election, not the other way around.

communism bitch posted:

*in an extremely thomas aquinas voice* um actually I think you'll find that the ultimate authority of god's will is the holy spirit made manifest in the entire body of the church

Guavanaut posted:

Ok, but who gets to wear the god hat?

nopantsjack posted:

We got em on the run!

Red dogs, AWOOOOO!

Ewan posted:

People on Twitter seem to be of the view it's a political agreement, not a legally binding treaty. So if that is the case, the answer is: there aren't any.