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Labour | 907 | 49.92% | |
Theresa May Team (Conservative) | 48 | 2.64% | |
Liberal Democrats | 31 | 1.71% | |
UKIP | 13 | 0.72% | |
Plaid Cymru | 25 | 1.38% | |
Green | 22 | 1.21% | |
Scottish Socialist Party | 12 | 0.66% | |
Scottish Conservative Party | 1 | 0.06% | |
Scottish National Party | 59 | 3.25% | |
Some Kind of Irish Unionist | 4 | 0.22% | |
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian | 3 | 0.17% | |
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist | 36 | 1.98% | |
Misc. Far Left Trots | 35 | 1.93% | |
Misc. Far Right Fash | 8 | 0.44% | |
Monster Raving Loony | 49 | 2.70% | |
Space Navies Party | 39 | 2.15% | |
Independent / Single Issue | 2 | 0.11% | |
Can't Vote | 188 | 10.35% | |
Won't Vote | 8 | 0.44% | |
Spoiled Ballot | 15 | 0.83% | |
Pissflaps | 312 | 17.17% | |
Total: | 1817 votes |
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bitmap posted:55kb. our boy shares a limited palette with a crumpet nicely. Goddamn. I kinda want that now.
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 14:20 |
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Sarah Bellum posted:SF will not allow her to form a government with the DUP, by taking her to an international tribunal for breaking the terms of the treaty. What is the international tribunal they can take this to, and how binding would it be?
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 14:21 |
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Angepain posted:well we men already knew that women were better than us but more confirmation is always welcome The weird thing is that up into like the early 90s women have historically always voted more Conservative than men.
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 14:22 |
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Oh man if the shinners cockblock the tories out of forming a government I will be an even happier boy than I've been for the past 30-odd hours, I will be insufferably pleased.
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 14:22 |
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Any Brightgoon Going to the level at 6:30 to check out swiss tony's replacement?
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 14:26 |
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https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/873220352335392768
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 14:26 |
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Captain Fargle posted:Yes of course. Of all the people who are going to be absolutely delighted to work with Trump Emmanuel Macron is top of of the list. As a Yank I am personally hoping Europe elects a whole bunch of politicians who tell Trump/us to gently caress off. It's what we deserve for being morons. ukle posted:
Conservatives the world over: DON'T LET THE TERRORISTS WIN! *proceeds to dismantle free society* axeil fucked around with this message at 14:31 on Jun 10, 2017 |
# ? Jun 10, 2017 14:28 |
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For Norn Iron goons, something I've always wanted to know. Why exactly are the nationalists parties much more strongly associated with left wing politics & the unionists all right wing? Surely there's loads of working class unionists who would vote for a party that looked after their rights while also being for remaining in the UK? And with Fianna Fail & Fine Gael you've obviously got nearby examples of right wing Irish nationalist parties. So how has it ended up as it has?
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 14:30 |
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Never doubt the power of political and sectarian tribalism
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 14:31 |
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forkboy84 posted:For Norn Iron goons, something I've always wanted to know. Why exactly are the nationalists parties much more strongly associated with left wing politics & the unionists all right wing? Surely there's loads of working class unionists who would vote for a party that looked after their rights while also being for remaining in the UK? And with Fianna Fail & Fine Gael you've obviously got nearby examples of right wing Irish nationalist parties. So how has it ended up as it has? Protestant Theocracy is an extremely right wing position.
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 14:32 |
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Unkempt posted:What is the international tribunal they can take this to, and how binding would it be? International Court of Justice, I believe. I don't know how to gauge or quantify how binding it is.
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 14:36 |
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happyhippy posted:We should save him the time and compile a list of DUP demands here. - Nuclear warfare strategy updated, Vatican City now primary target.
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 14:37 |
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Sarah Bellum posted:International Court of Justice, I believe. I don't know how to gauge or quantify how binding it is. Then it's not a thing, just political theorycrafting.
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 14:37 |
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what is ecumenism and why do unionists hate it
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 14:38 |
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forkboy84 posted:For Norn Iron goons, something I've always wanted to know. Why exactly are the nationalists parties much more strongly associated with left wing politics & the unionists all right wing? Surely there's loads of working class unionists who would vote for a party that looked after their rights while also being for remaining in the UK? And with Fianna Fail & Fine Gael you've obviously got nearby examples of right wing Irish nationalist parties. So how has it ended up as it has? Typically unionists are going to be people who are happy with the current situation and don't want change, whereas separatists are going to be people who are unhappy with the current situation and do want change. Inevitably that's going to incline them to line up with conservative and radical positions respectively.
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 14:39 |
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Unkempt posted:What is the international tribunal they can take this to, and how binding would it be?
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 14:39 |
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forkboy84 posted:For Norn Iron goons, something I've always wanted to know. Why exactly are the nationalists parties much more strongly associated with left wing politics & the unionists all right wing? Surely there's loads of working class unionists who would vote for a party that looked after their rights while also being for remaining in the UK? And with Fianna Fail & Fine Gael you've obviously got nearby examples of right wing Irish nationalist parties. So how has it ended up as it has? From the 20s until the Troubles kicked off, the catholic population were gerrymandered to second class citizens. So most turned out to be working class, hence any political party had to appeal to the workers (leftie) than right wing stuff like corporations and the rich. Then again, Sinn Fein/SDLP have never got total control ever, so they could turn into right wing policy starters given the chance. I would bet you most Sinn Fein supporters wouldn't know what finanical policies they would do. They are more interstedin 'replace the euro with the punt' and road signs into irish.
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 14:39 |
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Playstation 4 posted:Yeah, you're right, they're too dark, I used dumb noise effects and UJ isn't a good scaling flag. Should have sent a poet
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 14:41 |
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So can we all agree that the secret Labour handshake is to slap someone on the chest?
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 14:41 |
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Heard an interview with Stewart Jackson, former Tory MP for Peterborough and he spent a good three minutes throwing Theresa May under the bus which seems to be a running theme between former and current MPs. The next six months are going to be a glorious car crash
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 14:41 |
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forkboy84 posted:For Norn Iron goons, something I've always wanted to know. Why exactly are the nationalists parties much more strongly associated with left wing politics & the unionists all right wing? Surely there's loads of working class unionists who would vote for a party that looked after their rights while also being for remaining in the UK? And with Fianna Fail & Fine Gael you've obviously got nearby examples of right wing Irish nationalist parties. So how has it ended up as it has? Poverty and oppression. Working class unionists weren't oppressed, they had employment, education and housing opportunities that weren't available to nationalists. Nationalists really were treated as second class citizens long into the period known as The Troubles. Also, their heroes of the 1916 uprising were trade unionists like James Connolly.
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 14:42 |
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Kurtofan posted:what is ecumenism and why do unionists hate it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptd_h0dF7NE
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 14:44 |
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Kurtofan posted:what is ecumenism and why do unionists hate it Different denominations working together and finding common ground
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 14:47 |
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My first thought too.
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 14:49 |
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Gum posted:Different denominations working together and finding common ground Common ground such as concluding that the pope, as a person, does infact exist, followed by a drunken gunfight over if he really is the ultimate authority of gods will on earth or a conceited charlatan.
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 14:50 |
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quote:The poet Derek Mahon was once trying to explain the background to the "troubles" to a French colleague. In Ireland, he said, loyalists were in conflict with republicans; that is, Catholics were sometimes in contestation with Protestants. ronya fucked around with this message at 14:55 on Jun 10, 2017 |
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Drone_Fragger posted:Common ground such as concluding that the pope, as a person, does infact exist, followed by a drunken gunfight over if he really is the ultimate authority of gods will on earth or a conceited charlatan. Exactly! We can get a whole conversation before the killing starts
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 14:52 |
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Sarah Bellum posted:Poverty and oppression. Working class unionists weren't oppressed, they had employment, education and housing opportunities that weren't available to nationalists. Nationalists really were treated as second class citizens long into the period known as The Troubles. Also, their heroes of the 1916 uprising were trade unionists like James Connolly. Thanks to yourself & others answering that. I suppose it's a fairly obvious answer in the end, and always comes back to the abhorrent treatment of nationalists the British government allowed to go exist in Northern Ireland. It's kind of bad how little most of us know about Northern Irish politics & recent history really. Although I could probably say the same about Wales.
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 14:59 |
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The Insect Court posted:Given that Corbynistas always yapped about how Corbyn's goal wasn't winning a governing majority(and he didn't) but rather changing the party(he did, Labour neoliberalism is dead), and given that his overperformance in the election guarantees that there will be enough lefty MPs to ensure that there will be lefty options on the leadership ballot next time round(which had been in doubt), then you could make a case for Corbyn stepping down after anointing a successor who shares his commitment to social democratic politics and economic populism but who lacks his particular liabilities and connections to fringe figures and movements. Why let Corbyn's agenda be dragged down by his "We salute Comrade Chavez and our friends Hamas and Hezbollah, Trump-esque NATO/Russia policy, ooh ah up the RA" bits? It's the possibility of Corbyn as PM that will keep the DUP in the coalition no matter what comes. Meanwhile Corbyn's election result has massively boosted his credibility, and it is likely that far more of his MPs are now on his side. This will allow him to build a better shadow cabinet and boost his image among moderates by appearing with more centrist members of the PLP. The Tories have already thrown all the poo poo they have at him and it's just not working. I think the onus is on the Conservatives to work out how they can avoid being wiped out at the next (possibly quite imminent) election, not the other way around. Irony Be My Shield fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Jun 10, 2017 |
# ? Jun 10, 2017 15:00 |
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feedmegin posted:The weird thing is that up into like the early 90s women have historically always voted more Conservative than men. I would like to see gender crossreferenced with age but no poll ever seems to do that
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 15:00 |
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So just the occasional fire bit then?Drone_Fragger posted:Common ground such as concluding that the pope, as a person, does infact exist, followed by a drunken gunfight over if he really is the ultimate authority of gods will on earth or a conceited charlatan.
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 15:02 |
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Guavanaut posted:So just the occasional fire bit then? I don't think the batteries ever held enough charge to create an actual fire.
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 15:03 |
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We got em on the run! Red dogs, AWOOOOO!
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 15:03 |
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Drone_Fragger posted:Common ground such as concluding that the pope, as a person, does infact exist, followed by a drunken gunfight over if he really is the ultimate authority of gods will on earth or a conceited charlatan. *in an extremely thomas aquinas voice* um actually I think you'll find that the ultimate authority of god's will is the holy spirit made manifest in the entire body of the church
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 15:04 |
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Irony Be My Shield posted:We're looking at one of the weakest governments in recent history, that will be propped up by fundamentalist ex-terrorists with views that are toxic to the majority of British voters. It will be led by a laughing stock of a PM with her credibility destroyed and who commands no respect or confidence from her MPs. The Tories will try and change horses at some point, but it's difficult to see how they could do this without causing complete chaos in the middle of important international negotiations. And there isn't even an obvious successor. The Conservative Party in general just seems like a loving shambles at this point, with two leaders calling national votes and spectacularly self-destructing in the space of a year. There was an interesting article in the Independent claiming Corbyn was planning to do a Harold Wilson, allowing the Tory minority government to collapse then propose a Queen's speech and dare people to vote it down and doom the country to another election.
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 15:05 |
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communism bitch posted:*in an extremely thomas aquinas voice* um actually I think you'll find that the ultimate authority of god's will is the holy spirit made manifest in the entire body of the church
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 15:06 |
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Guavanaut posted:Ok, but who gets to wear the god hat?
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 15:08 |
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nopantsjack posted:We got em on the run! I went to the zoo while I was in Dublin, primarily to see the wolves. As I got there the whole pack started doing a howl. It was glorious. That's my wolf story.
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# ? Jun 10, 2017 15:08 |
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Ewan posted:People on Twitter seem to be of the view it's a political agreement, not a legally binding treaty. So if that is the case, the answer is: there aren't any. https://www.supremecourt.uk/cases/uksc-2016-0205.html http://www.mcivorfarrell.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/mccord_applicants-case_291116.pdf edit: or maybe not. Misread argument for decision! Pablo Bluth fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Jun 10, 2017 |
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