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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

TFW you get to use Thatcher against the Tories
https://twitter.com/tomrichell/status/873583055654576133

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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


https://twitter.com/SocialistVoice/status/873327207791415296

Basically, I've really enjoyed this election & am excited for another one.

Plasmafountain
Jun 17, 2008

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
lol if all this screaming about the IRA is going to get British people to investigate the DUP and the UVF.

My best friend's family was held hostage by Paras so they could stake out and rob a gas station across the road from their home. Police basically shrugged their shoulders by the time it was reported even though everyone had a good idea of who organised it.

NRVNQSR
Mar 1, 2009

Halisnacks posted:

Is there anything specific to U.K. politics that makes minority government so undesirable? Canada had three minority governments in a row 2004-2011, and while they were probably more ineffectual than a majority would have been, legislation was still passed and the country didn't seem to be in crisis.

I'd say the main problem is that the entire working group that can even possibly be hoped to support the conservative party's legislation still only has a wafer-thin majority. Conservatives+DUP+Lady Sylvia Hermon is only 329 MPs, and even with the most generous calculus the absolute minimum required for a majority is 320. So even on issues where they can persuade all friendly parties to back them they can only afford nine defections. Since they're trying to push major issues that are controversial within their own party, that's going to be very difficult to keep working.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
lol

https://twitter.com/evan7257/status...er%3D196%23pti8

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

TinTower posted:

The knife everyone is holding continues its twisting.

https://twitter.com/MarcoGBiagi/status/873492503466586112

For clarity this was to request that Scottish plans to introduce legislation to allows civil partnerships to be converted to marriage contain the same exemption that England and Wales currently has blocking civil partnerships issued in Northern Iteland from being in the scope of this law.

This is fun cause its a chance to point out the various ways GB has let the DUP get away with a two speed system and facilitated their veto of same sex marriage here

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...


please, proper antifas would use hammers and sickles or molotov cocktails/bricks.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011


How does he envision that would help even remotely against a knife.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Pre-election: well ni not having same sex marriage is very unfortunate but really its a matter for them and it would be good to do it if they wanted to but really its just a bad situation and we can't get involved too much

Post-election: this is outrageous and can not be allowed to stand in a progressive country!

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro



I mean, if you were that desperate to knife a oval office, surely you'd go for his leg or face in this case.

Worth pointing out that no antifa are even at this march despite them all being terrified of the prospect of being bashed.

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe
So they know they'll lose another election if it's called soon - instead, they'll cling on to this stillborn government, make a complete embarrassing mess of Brexit, and then...lose an election. :thumbsup:

Good loving lord

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

forkboy84 posted:

I mean, if you were that desperate to knife a oval office, surely you'd go for his leg or face in this case.

Worth pointing out that no antifa are even at this march despite them all being terrified of the prospect of being bashed.

they're so scared/desperate to murder someone that they've got guns

https://twitter.com/evan7257/status...D196%23lastpost

SkySteak
Sep 9, 2010
I am not saying that everything is a land of hopes and puppies at this point but there is something frankly amazing in how the tone of this thread has shifted in a mere three days. Of course things could still utterly go to poo poo but goddamm

Plasmafountain
Jun 17, 2008


I bet this is the kind of geezer who'll say hes totes not a fascist even though the flag on his arm is the loving Kriegesflagg coloured green with some totally-not-swastika logo replacement.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
It's been brought to my attention that the Tories have 33 Catholic MP's.

lol

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Mrs May, I think you hosed up:

https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/873598923113455617

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Not to sound to bitter there, I welcome the solidarity that's emerged against the regressive anti-lgbt policies here but after years of being involved in these issues the fact it took the DUPs shittiness possibly personally affecting those across the water for people to wake up to the issue leaves me miffed

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.

learnincurve posted:

Because he's winning a landslide for Labour with the momentum he currently has.

Because it means they won't have to deal with the chucklefucks that are May and Boris.

it's a big pile of crap that will tear his youth vote apart, why would he want to make it his pile of crap

and may and boris are perfect: it's going to be a big pile of crap regardless but they're so incompetent and unpopular that everyone is quite content to blame them for the crap

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


kustomkarkommando posted:

Not to sound to bitter there, I welcome the solidarity that's emerged against the regressive anti-lgbt policies here but after years of being involved in these issues the fact it took the DUPs shittiness possibly personally affecting those across the water for people to wake up to the issue leaves me miffed

Out of sight, out of mind, innit? Most folk simply didn't realise how bad it was, those of us who did, what exactly could we do about it? I totally get why you'd feel bitter about it, it is a shite situation, but I'm not sure most people could have named the biggest parties in NI until about 3 months ago.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Miftan posted:

please, proper antifas would use hammers and sickles or molotov cocktails/bricks.

Actually usually we use a big fuckoff stick with a tiny little flag on it for plausible deniability

Fans
Jun 27, 2013

A reptile dysfunction

MiddleOne posted:

How does he envision that would help even remotely against a knife.

They'll be too busy laughing to stab them

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



I'm absurdly ignorant about NI and I'm sure most of England is too.

CottonWolf
Jul 20, 2012

Good ideas generator

BBC are saying it's confidence and supply rather than full coalition.

Fans
Jun 27, 2013

A reptile dysfunction

Steve2911 posted:

I'm absurdly ignorant about NI and I'm sure most of England is too.

It's going to be sobering to get all caught up at once then

cosmically_cosmic
Dec 26, 2015

CottonWolf posted:

BBC are saying it's confidence and supply rather than full coalition.

So just a minority government?

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Steve2911 posted:

I'm absurdly ignorant about NI and I'm sure most of England is too.

Yeah. I know the basics but I'll be researching the gently caress out of it now.

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь
Is there any information on how this is likely to change Labour membership? Think I saw someone on Twitter breathlessly claiming it's going to go up to 800,000 and that'd be great but seems like a really big number.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends
So how long until this shithouse coalition collapses and we have another election? My money's on November

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


CottonWolf posted:

BBC are saying it's confidence and supply rather than full coalition.

This is bad for the United Kingdom.

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

NRVNQSR posted:

Conservatives+DUP+Lady Sylvia Hermon is only 329 MPs.

If you think Sylvia Hermon is going to back the Tories, you don't know the first thing about Sylvia Hermon.

Renaissance Spam
Jun 5, 2010

Can it wait a for a bit? I'm in the middle of some *gyrations*


CottonWolf posted:

BBC are saying it's confidence and supply rather than full coalition.

What exactly is "Confidence and Supply"? It sounds like they're just trying to obfuscate the fact it's a coalition.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

So how long until this shithouse coalition collapses and we have another election? My money's on November

October at most, I'm betting on some massive rebellion and/or scandal in the first two months then hilarity until Jam Grandad finally delivers the mercy kill.

RabidWeasel
Aug 4, 2007

Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!

Marxist-Jezzinist posted:

Is there any information on how this is likely to change Labour membership? Think I saw someone on Twitter breathlessly claiming it's going to go up to 800,000 and that'd be great but seems like a really big number.

That sounds insane given that it went down to something like 450k as of 3 months ago but OTOH if anything's going to get people to sign up it's been this election.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Renaissance Spam posted:

What exactly is "Confidence and Supply"? It sounds like they're just trying to obfuscate the fact it's a coalition.

Specifically it means they'll back the Tories on a No Confidence vote & a Budget vote & not anything else.

knox_harrington
Feb 18, 2011

Running no point.

CottonWolf posted:

BBC are saying it's confidence and supply rather than full coalition.

If Corbs can get a coalition >319 seats does that mean they're the largest party?

dispatch_async
Nov 28, 2014

Imagine having the time to have played through 20 generations of one family in The Sims 2. Imagine making the original two members of that family Neil Buchanan and Cat Deeley. Imagine complaining to Maxis there was no technological progression. You've successfully imagined my life

Marxist-Jezzinist posted:

Is there any information on how this is likely to change Labour membership? Think I saw someone on Twitter breathlessly claiming it's going to go up to 800,000 and that'd be great but seems like a really big number.

https://twitter.com/DaveWardGS/status/873591705156669440

but I've no idea if Dave Ward has any actual inside info or not.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

communism bitch posted:

Actually usually we use a big fuckoff stick with a tiny little flag on it for plausible deniability

Start running the black and pink if you have to start going up against norn iron assholes please

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

kustomkarkommando posted:

Not to sound to bitter there, I welcome the solidarity that's emerged against the regressive anti-lgbt policies here but after years of being involved in these issues the fact it took the DUPs shittiness possibly personally affecting those across the water for people to wake up to the issue leaves me miffed

In the efforts of fairness, I think a lot of people on the left in the UK are really hesitant to look like they're telling NI what to do in any respect - moralizing and paternalism had been used to justify intervention for so long that a hands off approach seemed the safest course. Because people stopped talking about it it stopped being taught.

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Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe

Renaissance Spam posted:

What exactly is "Confidence and Supply"? It sounds like they're just trying to obfuscate the fact it's a coalition.

As I understand it, Confidence and Supply is basically where the DUP promises to help them get the Queens Speech through, but after that will be in the position of being able to dictate terms on anything else. A coalition means the two parties come to an arrangement beforehand where those concessions are given upfront, in exchange for the DUP promising to go along with the party line.

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