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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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Acaila posted:Excuse you. How can you say this in a country where Leanne Wood exists. And Caroline Lucas. e: 381 AD: The First Council of Constantinople was a council of Christian bishops convened in Constantinople in AD 381 by the Roman Emperor Theodosius I. This second ecumenical council, an effort to attain consensus in the church through an assembly representing all of Christendom. The DUP would have been furious. Miftan fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Jun 10, 2017 |
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CottonWolf posted:There was never a viable left wing coalition with this parliamentary maths. Tories + DUP is a majority, and they'd always have No Confidenced something with Corbs at the head, even if they weren't formally working together. So wait This is all sounding eerily reminiscent of Trumps electoral college win. May only has a majority because Sinn fein's refusal to sit skews the representative population rightward?
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AegisP posted:It took the British Columbia Green Party & NDP 5+ days of negotiations, including hours of meetings between their leaders, negotiators, experts, and mediators, talking about policy differences and how they'd work together in the recent election, before they came up with a supply & confidence arrangement that the Greens & NDP could work on. This is not something that came out of the blue - the Tories have been having informal discussions with the DUP since after the last election left them with a paper thin majority, the DUP held a champagne reception at the last Tory party conference and it was not a secret May was eyeing them to bolster her majority in case of rebels during the A50 process. The DUP have been touted as potential kingmakers for the last TWO elections and backroom chats have been talked about between both parties and the DUP in the run up to each election. This hasn't been pulled out of thin air - its more an emergency plan the Tories had cooked up being put into play
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Jun 10, 2017 20:13
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:So wait no she has an outright majority with DUP anyway. if sinn fein actually sat it would be by a whole 1 MP though
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Jun 10, 2017 20:14
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Tsaedje posted:May was having a hard enough time trying to get anything approved by the Lords before this, they're going to wreck this 'government' hard. Her barebones Queen's speech probably won't even be able to have much from their manifesto because the Tory Party want to blame it rather than accept any other alternative explanation, so the Lords will be able to bounce things back endlessly She's hosed. A lot of her manifesto 'promises' are controversial enough that they'll never make it through the commons, and anything that isn't in the manifesto can be blocked by the Lords. We're in a scenario where Labour could end up with a million members and a whole new bedrock of support while the Tories crash and burn taking the blame for Brexit while not being able to legislate for anything. It's amazing.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:14
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Al-Saqr posted:The DUP is lead by a woman?!
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Jun 10, 2017 20:14
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I think Labour did a good job of finding other ways to appeal to remainers, such as having a very hopeful and inclusive campaign free of dogwhistling. I think a lot of remainers (including myself) were happy to vote for Labour because they brought so many other good things to the table.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:15
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i'm still shocked at how weird the results were. like a hung parliament was one thing but labour won some really unexpected seats
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:So wait Not really. They'd have a majority if SF sat or not; it just brings it up from 3 to 7.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:16
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jBrereton posted:Yes, many UK political parties are led by women, in another surprising difference with Saudi Arabia. lol except the DUP has the exact same value system minus the fact that the Saudi allows abortions and does believe in climate change lol.
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Tesseraction posted:Something of note on Corbyn's three-line whip on Brexit: In a shock development, Jeremy Corbyn turns out to have been absolutely right once again.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:17
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jBrereton posted:Yes, many UK political parties are led by women, in another surprising difference with Saudi Arabia. Don't be an rear end. Al-Saqr is a good egg.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:17
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:So wait
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I simply can't comprehend why she isn't simply quitting and quietly retiring, you have to be utterly delusional not to see that it won't just be the DUP holding her hostage it's going to be every single Tory backbencher, a group traditionally ignored and cowed by the whips, making demands as well.
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Jose posted:i'm still shocked at how weird the results were. like a hung parliament was one thing but labour won some really unexpected seats Hey now, it's not that big of a deal. Canterbury has just been a thing for 650 years without a Labour MP.
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learnincurve posted:I simply can't comprehend why she isn't simply quitting and quietly retiring, you have to be utterly delusional not to see that it won't just be the DUP holding her hostage it's going to be every single Tory backbencher, a group traditionally ignored and cowed by the whips, making demands as well. The Orb Beckons, it's spell too strong for a mere mortal.Soon. SOOOOoooooooon.......
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Jose posted:i'm still shocked at how weird the results were. like a hung parliament was one thing but labour won some really unexpected seats I wonder if the Tories will hold the next election outside of term time to try and reverse that effect.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:20
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learnincurve posted:I simply can't comprehend why she isn't simply quitting and quietly retiring, you have to be utterly delusional not to see that it won't just be the DUP holding her hostage it's going to be every single Tory backbencher, a group traditionally ignored and cowed by the whips, making demands as well. Gives me the vibes of Thatcher's last days in power, except May's only been PM for just under a year. Nice of her to skip most of the horrors Thatch inflicted and skipped straight to the megalomania, paranoia and delusions.
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Jose posted:i'm still shocked at how weird the results were. like a hung parliament was one thing but labour won some really unexpected seats
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Jun 10, 2017 20:21
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learnincurve posted:I simply can't comprehend why she isn't simply quitting and quietly retiring, you have to be utterly delusional not to see that it won't just be the DUP holding her hostage it's going to be every single Tory backbencher, a group traditionally ignored and cowed by the whips, making demands as well. People from the Spectator (who have really deep contacts in the Tory party) say that the last thing the Tories want is to have May go because the leadership campaign would tear apart their supporters, and it would make negotiations with the EU impossible rather than laughable. They suspect they'd lose if another election took place now, so they can't just get a new leader and go back to the country, so the logic is that it's better to muddle along with DUP support and hope that Corbyn's momentum breaks.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:23
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It also gives leadership contenders in the Tory party to sort it out before themselves and get the bloody bits done behind closed doors before they have to go to the public.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:24
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https://twitter.com/GerardWoodhous1/status/873576833538822144 https://twitter.com/CllrStopp/status/873590772624482309 Also May's new chief of staff is a former MP that lost his seat thanks to her. Awk-ward!
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Jun 10, 2017 20:24
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What happens if we get a bunch of by-elections and they go Con -> Lab causing the Tories to lose their DUP-aided majority? Minority government and coalition disbanded because there's no reason to do it?
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Jun 10, 2017 20:24
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Marxist-Jezzinist posted:Is there any information on how this is likely to change Labour membership? Think I saw someone on Twitter breathlessly claiming it's going to go up to 800,000 and that'd be great but seems like a really big number. 
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Jun 10, 2017 20:24
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Then the government will lose a vote of no confidence, and we'll get another election.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:25
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I was watching an on-demand of Channel 4's Alternate Election today. When Paxman casually said "I've just been told by the tories that every single London seat is in danger" Ann Widdecombe was mortified. "What, ALL of them???"
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Jun 10, 2017 20:25
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Tesseraction posted:Something of note on Corbyn's three-line whip on Brexit: The idea that not dying on his sword to try and block Brexit was a death sentence for Corbyn seemed more like a specific obsession of Guardian journalists than a thing actual Remain voters were worried about.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:25
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jBrereton posted:Yes, many UK political parties are led by women, in another surprising difference with Saudi Arabia. Oh yeah the outspoken leftist actually supports wahhabism.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:26
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SteelMentor posted:Gives me the vibes of Thatcher's last days in power, except May's only been PM for just under a year. Nice of her to skip most of the horrors Thatch inflicted and skipped straight to the megalomania, paranoia and delusions. It's important to note that when Boris wanted a seat he was parachuted into Michael Heseltine's Henley-on-Thames seat after he retired, and the press banged on about how he was his natural successor because he had the same hair and everything.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:27
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nothing to seehere posted:Then the government will lose a vote of no confidence, and we'll get another election. 2017's been better than the previous couple of years already, it just needs to end with the Tories being electorally crucified and it'll be amazing.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:27
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I still think 3-line whipping for Brexit was a mistake: He should have just whipped as normal, as the public don't really understand the distinction. But it's behind us now and the Labour party is united.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:29
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SteelMentor posted:2017's been better than the previous couple of years already, it just needs to end with the Tories being electorally crucified and it'll be amazing. Same but not just electorally.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:29
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whats the highest labour membership has ever been? is this it?
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Corrode posted:The idea that not dying on his sword to try and block Brexit was a death sentence for Corbyn seemed more like a specific obsession of Guardian journalists than a thing actual Remain voters were worried about. Dunno I quit the party over it, probably for ever, but then I'm not an actual citizen  Might have to quit the country too,  So forgive me for being bitter
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Jun 10, 2017 20:32
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Jose posted:whats the highest labour membership has ever been? is this it? 
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Jun 10, 2017 20:34
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Oh yeah the outspoken leftist actually supports wahhabism. Seriously, Al-Saqr posts the most lefty poo poo he can without literally being hunted down and executed. We generally cut him a break for that.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:34
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jBrereton posted:It isn't like Trump's electoral college win; the party that got the most votes has the most seats. Well, technically, the Tories + the DUP don't have a majority of votes but do have a majority of seats, so there is that. In a more proportional system Jez would be PM right now. So not quite the same thing as Trump's college win but still in the genre of voting systems not being perfectly representative. Angepain fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Jun 10, 2017 |
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Jun 10, 2017 20:34
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Jose posted:whats the highest labour membership has ever been? is this it?  Highest it's been since the late 70s.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:35
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well i was going on the near million number being accurate but still no
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