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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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TheRat posted:Americans really are the worst Every article I see about Corbs in the US seems to be obsessed with the accusation that he's an antisemite. I guess it's because in the US the only people who care about about him enough to write about him hate him.
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Red Bones posted:Corbyn wanting to run a minority government right now sounds like a pretty dumb idea when he can just wait six months for the tories to dig their own mass grave and then win the inevitable early election. It'd be feasible if he had the numbers for a labour and friends majority, but if he was running a minority government the tories would just vote down all his policies and then crow in the media about how this is proof that socialism doesn't work. If he runs a minority government for a while he can just pass some non-contentious stuff, strut around looking prime ministerial, then call an early election himself at the most favourable time. CoolCab posted:I really want you to examine that last sentence. Do you think the narrative that the press will push is "Woodcock saved by grassroots activism" or "Woodcock saved because of his turn against Corbyn"? Or, in a broader sense, do you think they'll push either and instead just present him as "Labour MP who only marginally held his seat John Woodcock" or much more likely "Sources within the Labour party say..." Woodcock's line has always been that Corbyn was unelectable and was leading Labour to catastrophic defeat. I'm sure he will still make it. But it's lost an awful lot of it's potency.
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Red Bones posted:Are you suggesting he should wait until after we leave to avoid the political fallout of being The Brexit PM, or that he should seize power now to try and go for a more moderate agreement with the EU? He shouldn't shy away from any opportunity to lead, should it present itself.
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Jun 10, 2017 23:22
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Big, if true: https://twitter.com/adampayne26/status/873659030505476097
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Jun 10, 2017 23:24
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That's pretty much confirmation isn't it?
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Jun 10, 2017 23:24
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I would be happy to have "off the leash" Red Ed in the shadow cabinet, just saying. I like that Labour, in this campaign, have stopped being nice and have just cut down Tory poo poo and laughed in their faces. (Thinking Barry Gardiner, Emily Thornberry and John McDonnell here)
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Jun 10, 2017 23:25
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This clip is timeless https://youtu.be/CyKUVWLeMaA
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Jun 10, 2017 23:27
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CottonWolf posted:Every article I see about Corbs in the US seems to be obsessed with the accusation that he's an antisemite. I guess it's because in the US the only people who care about about him enough to write about him hate him. Amongst much of the US political class anti semitism is classified as supporting anything short of nuking Palestine.
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Jun 10, 2017 23:29
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Goons are too quick to write off Johnson. His image may be tarnished now that he's been reduced to a slavering gibbering wreck, but he still has a talent for slinging bullshit and that makes him dangerous. People who are convinced the public will reject him because he "doesen't look like a prime minister" are living in a bygone era.
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CottonWolf posted:Every article I see about Corbs in the US seems to be obsessed with the accusation that he's an antisemite. I guess it's because in the US the only people who care about about him enough to write about him hate him. well you're quoting something from alan dershowitz, the rich conservative who set himself up as the arbiter of what constitutes anti-semitism around the world. he's a strong trump supporter, so it's a lot easier to see exactly how strong his ideals are nowadays
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Jun 10, 2017 23:30
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learnincurve posted:The whole point is that we want a leader who isn't going to go "welp this Brexit thing looks a bit tricky, why don't we let the other people gently caress it up because of how weak they are, and leave the country utterly buggered". Ah. Sorry, I don't have as much faith in the electorate as you do. Maybe you're right though! I care more about his domestic policies than on how he would handle the negotiations with the EU, and I'm worried if he actually spends time as PM and isn't able to fulfill a lot of his promises because he's heading a minority government, he'll lose all that hopeful youth support. I think it would depend an awful lot on how he handles the position, though, and how he would present himself and his minority government to the public. I just feel like this is the best chance this country has to drag itself away from the gently caress the poor, privatise everything mentality that it has had since the 1980's and I don't want it to fail now.
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Jun 10, 2017 23:31
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Bojo absolutely could be PM fwiw. He's a total clown, but he's the kind of failing-upward buffoon that UK loves to hate and hates that they love.
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TheRat posted:I've got an even hotter one for you: Saltiest thing I've seen since the election, many thanks, v. delicious. The level of doublethink in such a short space of time is quite amazing.
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Jun 10, 2017 23:33
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Olds aren't all bad. Just had a long chat with an elderly gentleman in a pub who very quickly declared Tories should be shot at birth.
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Jun 10, 2017 23:33
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So this whole I.R.A. Thingamajig, it really is nothing other than talking to people who'd be included in the Good Friday Agreement anyway?
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Jun 10, 2017 23:36
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I'm sure we can find methods that are less costly to the public purse than shooting.
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Jun 10, 2017 23:36
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Do any significant number of the Tories even like Boris anymore? That could stop him before what the electorate thinks even plays a role.Acaila posted:I would be happy to have "off the leash" Red Ed in the shadow cabinet, just saying. I am surprising myself by the sheer amount that I want this to happen. Have him casually eat a bacon sandwich while giving his first press conference, bits of it flying out his mouth as he nonchalantly takes a question from The Sun
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Jun 10, 2017 23:37
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Marxist-Jezzinist posted:Olds aren't all bad. Just had a long chat with an elderly gentleman in a pub who very quickly declared Tories should be shot at birth. There are two types of old- Tories and those who are completely open about wanting to kill Tories
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Jun 10, 2017 23:37
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Digiwizzard posted:Goons are too quick to write off Johnson. His image may be tarnished now that he's been reduced to a slavering gibbering wreck, but he still has a talent for slinging bullshit and that makes him dangerous. People who are convinced the public will reject him because he "doesen't look like a prime minister" are living in a bygone era. Yep. I think the most dangerous tories electorally are Boris and Ruth Davidson. Like Corbyn, they can make people like them on a mass scale. I was speaking to one of my Scottish friends the other day. Hard SNP voter and she said "I hate the tories, but Ruth Davidson's great". If she can get even her on board, I have no doubt she could win a general election.
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Jun 10, 2017 23:38
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXbuqbFufn4 Sorry about the twat at the begining
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Jun 10, 2017 23:40
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Gum posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXbuqbFufn4 I don't think Russel Howard is that bad. Prefer Bill Bailey though.
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Jun 10, 2017 23:41
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CottonWolf posted:I think the most dangerous tories electorally are Boris and Ruth Davidson. Both of which have had leadership bids, or in the case of Davidson movements, being strangled in the womb by leaks to the Tory press this weekend.
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Jun 10, 2017 23:42
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Josef bugman posted:I don't think Russel Howard is that bad. Prefer Bill Bailey though. Russell Howard owns: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqr-f7YxE8E
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Jun 10, 2017 23:42
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A question from a Canadian expat who's familiarity with UK politics gets much murkier the farther back he goes (pretty good any time after Major, knows the broad strokes of Thatcher ie poll tax, miner strikes, privatization, secretly being a hateful swarm of hornets in a trenchcoat, etc but pretty lovely before then) what are the precedents for situations like this and for majorities as thin as this one? Have they happened in postwar UK history and what was the outcome?
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Jun 10, 2017 23:43
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Russel Howard is a top lad.
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Jun 10, 2017 23:44
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Skinty McEdger posted:Both of which have had leadership bids, or in the case of Davidson movements, being strangled in the womb by leaks to the Tory press this weekend. Ruth also would need to be an MP first.
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Jun 10, 2017 23:45
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Thanks Ants posted:This clip is timeless where did you find this footage of Ruth Davidson being told about the DUP deal
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spud posted:Russel Howard is a top lad. I can never shake the feeling that he's a sixth former doing stand up at a talent show. No matter how old he gets.
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Steve2911 posted:I can never shake the feeling that he's a sixth former doing stand up at a talent show. No matter how old he gets. That's it! Thank you. Never could figure out why i can't stand the guy
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Jun 10, 2017 23:49
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I want the DUP confidence and supply deal to be done. I also want the deal to fragment and fall apart Hear me out. The second it's done, Labour has the biggest stick to beat the Tories with. Why do you support homophones? Why is your party against women's rights? Why did you do a deal with terrorist sympathisers? Why did you risk restarting the troubles. You don't mention confidence and supply: you call it a coalition. And you beat them with it every time they talk back. They mention anything the DUP has a poo poo policy or soundbite on, and you spit it back with "but you 'friends' in the DUP said this, why did you support that?" Over and over. Couple that with the same manifesto, and some media training on the usual terrorist/trident questions. Add a sprinkling of the soundbites on "the voters are wrong" "coalition of chaos" and "strong and stable" Point out that switching party leader isn't loving very stable. And keep bad interviewing MP's the gently caress away from the media. Next election, which we all know will come real soon, will have momentum for Labour and those who cannot stomach voting Tory in the face of that.
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Steve2911 posted:I can never shake the feeling that he's a sixth former doing stand up at a talent show. No matter how old he gets. That's his thing though, isn't it? Acting like a teenage lad having bantz. I find it unsettling to watch, as he is a man in his 30s.
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Jun 10, 2017 23:54
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StoicFnord posted:I want the DUP confidence and supply deal to be done. I also want the deal to fragment and fall apart What have you got against words that sound the same, but are spelled differently?
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Jun 10, 2017 23:55
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oath2order posted:It's kind of crazy to me that the House of Lords is an unelected check on conservatism. I would think it would end up being mostly composed of rich autocrats that mostly just want more money. The Lords, being appointed rather than elected, are not beholden to special interest groups funding their election campaigns. And as they sit for life (or until they retire from all work) they're not angling for a nice job or six once they stand down. Re: Lord Buckethead - in case anyone doesn't know, he took the character and party name from a 1980s Star Wars parody called Gremloids. I saw it years ago, it is very cheap and very silly so I recommend it.
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https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/873674408224862210 Wow, the shambolic state of the Tories right now is enough to cause that kind of u-turn?
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