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Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

You Win!

Edge & Christian posted:

John Byrne's whole thing by the early 1990s when he did Avengers West Coast (and only hardened going forward) was this sort of weird FRAMER'S INTENT philosophy. It got even worse after Kirby died and Byrne briefly batted around trying to take on the mantle of The New King, Heir to Jack's Throne before getting slapped down violently by well, everyone.

this might actually be the most pompous thing I've ever heard jesus christ

every Byrne story I've ever heard has been a horror tale

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X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Lobok posted:

Former alias: Bambi...?

Hey man, it's comic books. When you lose a parent you get into some weird poo poo in comic books.

DivineCoffeeBinge
Mar 3, 2011

Spider-Man's Amazing Construction Company

Lobok posted:

Former alias: Bambi...?

"mind transferred by Doctor Strange into body of fawn"

What would YOU have called him afterwards?

Scyther
Dec 29, 2010

DivineCoffeeBinge posted:

I love Chondu the Mystic. Some other good Chondu looks:





These days he's a bartender.



I think this guy was in the post Civil War "Heroes For Hire" series centered around Misty Knight and Colleen Wing. Someone else can probably confirm or deny.

Rahonavis
Jan 11, 2012

"Clevuh gurrrl..."

DivineCoffeeBinge posted:

"mind transferred by Doctor Strange into body of fawn"

What would YOU have called him afterwards?

This was in between him being Nighthawk II for a while and then being transformed into his Final Fantasy villain final boss form. This character needs to be in a movie* so he can join Ultron and Thanos in the "Technically A Disney Villain" shindig.

* - Unless he already has? The name Chondu sounds familiar?

E: Right right. Bad Blue Spacedad's name escaped me for a bit there.

Rahonavis fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Jun 13, 2017

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


You're thinking of Yondu from Guardians.

SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL
Feb 21, 2006

Holy Moly! DARKSEID IS!

Blockhouse posted:

this might actually be the most pompous thing I've ever heard jesus christ

I am admittedly extremely biased because I will never, ever forgive Byrne for touching Kirby's Fourth World.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

X-O posted:

Hey man, it's comic books. When you lose a parent you get into some weird poo poo in comic books.

It was Gerber's defenders run and completely batshit. Hulk made friends such a deer and named it Bambi.

HitTheTargets
Mar 3, 2006

I came here to laugh at you.

SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:

I am admittedly extremely biased because I will never, ever forgive Byrne for touching Kirby's Fourth World.

It was a Bad Touch.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters
In John Byrne's defense, he did a pretty great Nixonian bit of begging the question rather than outright saying it.

From 1993, when Kirby was still around and Next Men was new:

quote:

Once upon a time yours truly was considered the Number One Talent in comics, at least in terms of the available crop of comic artists. This is not ego speaking. This is a statement of simple fact. The mantle once worn by the likes of Jack Kirby and Neal Adams had settled about my shoulders.

...

When I look back on my career, memory populates the day with streams of eager fans telling me, often in so many words that I am -- or was -- the greatest artist of all time. This accolade, I might point out, was not even so narrow as to restrict my supremacy to the venue in which I am best known. No, I was the greatest of all Michelangelo? Leonardo? Picasso? Monet? Manet? Pollock? Grandma Moses? Nothing compared to me.

Usually the fans would be able to acknowledge that there were probably one or two other artists whose body of work eclipsed mine. (No false modesty here. I have no doubt I am one of the best comic-book artists to have come down the pike.

...

Fans often ask me who I think are the best artists. When asked this question I rattle off a short lists of greats: Kirby, Adams, Kubert, Swan, Garcia Lopez, Ditko. Usually at the mention of some of these names -- Kirby and Ditko, in most particular -- the average fans launches into a display of artificial gagging, demonstrating his complete disgust at the thought that these dried-up, shriveled, talentless husks should have their names mentioned in the same breath as my own.
This editorial then kind of devolved into a sort of jeremiad about how JOHN BYRNE, THIS GENERATION'S GREATEST is still humble enough to praise Kirby and Ditko and etc., so gently caress these Image kids for not bowing at HIS feet. Fast forward a year or so when Byrne writes a eulogy for Jack Kirby:


quote:

Toward the end of the conversation [about Kirby's passing, Byrne's art dealer] said something that took me totally by surprise. "Better take care of yourself," he said. "You're The King now."

It was something which would have never occurred to me, and it sent my brain tumbling down some strange paths. Just last year I'd realized I'd matched Kirby's physical output for the point at which he'd been in the business for twenty years, as I now have. Comic Values Monthly recently declared me to have been the first of the comic-book Superstars. Repeatedly, it seemed, I was being told no one other than Kirby had quite as much impact on the industry.

Could it be possible? Would it be overweening ego to think of myself as the heir apparent to Jack Kirby?

Of course it would. It would for anyone.

Scuba Trooper
Feb 25, 2006

Christ, what an rear end in a top hat.

Also, I can't believe I'm the first one to bring up Radiation Roy from that DC page. How have I never heard of Radiation Roy?!

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

hup posted:

Christ, what an rear end in a top hat.

Also, I can't believe I'm the first one to bring up Radiation Roy from that DC page. How have I never heard of Radiation Roy?!

Me neither, and I even read Who's Who countless times as a kid.

Reminds me of Roddy Radiation, the lead guitarist of the Specials.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:

Reminds me of Roddy Radiation, the lead guitarist of the Specials.

"Rat Race" could be Radiation Roy's theme song.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Day 65: Tatterdemalion

I'm not sure if I actually remember this guy from something or if I just remember someone that looks an awful lot like him. I know I've read some of the issues in his bibliography but I can't remember specifics.


Rahonavis
Jan 11, 2012

"Clevuh gurrrl..."

X-O posted:

Day 65: Tatterdemalion

I'm not sure if I actually remember this guy from something or if I just remember someone that looks an awful lot like him. I know I've read some of the issues in his bibliography but I can't remember specifics.




I remember saying something cute and innocent earlier about not being able to decide which of those hideous fleshpile villains was the grossest. Here's a dude who uses his body odor as a weapon. :barf:

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

So he's just an especially smelly and greasy tap dancer?

How did he survive multiple encounters with a goddamn werewolf?

remusclaw
Dec 8, 2009

Begemot posted:

So he's just an especially smelly and greasy tap dancer?

How did he survive multiple encounters with a goddamn werewolf?

Peak human abilities, just like everyone else in these write ups it seems. I'm assuming Satanish is some sort of Demon he made a pact with?

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

remusclaw posted:

Peak human abilities, just like everyone else in these write ups it seems. I'm assuming Satanish is some sort of Demon he made a pact with?

According to the appearance summaries, he only teamed up with Satannish in his last appearance. His first two were fighting Werewolf by Night and Spider-man!

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

Too bad all the entries in the Handbook weren't like Tatterdemalion's section on Personal Weaponry and written in reference to how much they could hurt or affect Wonder Man.

(This post was enhanced by Satannish.)

remusclaw
Dec 8, 2009

I guess grease and kevlar is enough to keep a Werewolf at bay. It would keep me away for sure.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
His stink is especially offensive to dogs.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


This dude looks like the first boss in a Castlevania ripoff.

remusclaw
Dec 8, 2009

I like the raised eyebrow. He just smelt it.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

"The Tatterdemalion is mentally disturbed."

Well yeah, look at those boots.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

FYI, "tatterdemalion" literally just means a person wearing ragged clothing. Synonymous with "ragamuffin".

Lurdiak posted:

This dude looks like the first boss in a Castlevania ripoff.

He looks like someone crossed Scarecrow with The Shadow.

Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.
Oddly enough, the only issues I bought of Avengers West Coast as a sallow teenager in the early nineties were the first two parts of the story involving Night Shift (enhanced by Satannish).

From memory, they all had seedy, crappy origins - I think the Brothers Grimm were pornographers whose business was ruined by the Avengers or something.

Unfortunately, I didn't get the third issue, so I was left with Spiderwoman, USAgent and Wonderman strapped to a giant spinning wheel, being menanced by a giant demonic claw.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
oh giant demonic claw, what high hopes we had for you.

DivineCoffeeBinge
Mar 3, 2011

Spider-Man's Amazing Construction Company
Tatterdemalion is awesome and I will fight you if you disagree.

He is quite literally Captain Homeless Guy. He was a star, then he ran a casino, then the mob swindled him out of everything he owned, he started drinking, he became a derelict, he lived on the streets, and then he got recruited into an army of homeless people who were being controlled by ultrasonics on behalf of a group called The Committee - which was a bunch of L.A. businesspeople who thought a climate of fear would stimulate the economy.

No, seriously.

He wants to destroy money because it is the means by which the elite control the rest of us. He's the 99%.

How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas

DivineCoffeeBinge posted:

Tatterdemalion is awesome and I will fight you if you disagree.

He is quite literally Captain Homeless Guy. He was a star, then he ran a casino, then the mob swindled him out of everything he owned, he started drinking, he became a derelict, he lived on the streets, and then he got recruited into an army of homeless people who were being controlled by ultrasonics on behalf of a group called The Committee.

Ahem, you neglect to mention, controlled by ultrasonics by a guy whose supervillain origin is that he got busted so hard for pirating casette tapes that he had no choice but to invent a whistle that could mind control homeless people AND ghouls AND werewolves. Werewolf by Night was a treasure.

Mover
Jun 30, 2008


Finally an answer to the question: what if scarecrow and the shadow hosed?

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Day 66: Tiger Shark

If you've been reading comics for any extended period of time you've probably run across some book where Tiger Shark was a minor villain. He started as a Namor villain but pops up from time to time it seems in many books. He's really goofy looking and impractical, his head is like a shark's fin. No relation to the '80s cartoon Tigersharks.


RandallODim
Dec 30, 2010

Another 1? Aww man...
Tiger Shark is top of my 'looks most likely to get killed by Brock Samson' list of villains.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

RandallODim posted:

Tiger Shark is top of my 'looks most likely to get killed by Brock Samson' list of villains.

See also The Battling Bantam

Rirse
May 7, 2006

by R. Guyovich
And yet this guy was worthy of a Marvel Legend, so someone must remember him.

DivineCoffeeBinge
Mar 3, 2011

Spider-Man's Amazing Construction Company
Tiger Shark is basically "what if Sabretooth was half-fish?"

Mister Mind
Mar 20, 2009

I'm not a real doctor,
But I am a real worm;
I am an actual worm

hup posted:

Christ, what an rear end in a top hat.

Also, I can't believe I'm the first one to bring up Radiation Roy from that DC page. How have I never heard of Radiation Roy?!

He's a Legion of Super-Heroes villain. Nobody's ever heard of, like, 99% of any of them.

GPTribefan
Jul 2, 2007
Something witty yet inspirational about the Cleveland Indians

X-O posted:

Day 66: Tiger Shark

If you've been reading comics for any extended period of time you've probably run across some book where Tiger Shark was a minor villain. He started as a Namor villain but pops up from time to time it seems in many books. He's really goofy looking and impractical, his head is like a shark's fin. No relation to the '80s cartoon Tigersharks.




He went in for a bad back and walked out with shark + Namor powers. This might be the most amazing doctor visit ever.

Also, wasn't he actually mutated into a shark/human hybrid at one point? I swear in the 90's Thunderbolts he appeared and was all sorts of "evolved"

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

GPTribefan posted:

He went in for a bad back and walked out with shark + Namor powers. This might be the most amazing doctor visit ever.

"I made my patients faster and stronger and more alive than ever! And for that they took away my license! Called me a quack! Well I'll show them what it means to be a quack! They're about to get billed by... DOCTOR DUCK!!!"

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


Rirse posted:

And yet this guy was worthy of a Marvel Legend, so someone must remember him.



Looks like Ed McGuinness' Tiger Shark. Only time I thought the character looked cool.

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My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Rirse posted:

And yet this guy was worthy of a Marvel Legend, so someone must remember him.


I'm guessing head articulation won't be great.

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