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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
| Total: | 1817 votes | ||
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Angepain posted:maybe it's the residual sleep deprivation from staying up all night on Thursday without having planned to but I still can't quite believe any of this actually happened  Soon
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Appalling Tory types seem to have settled on the discarded PLP idea that a moderate Labour leader would have beaten May and therefore Corbyn technically did badly. They're such snakes.Fans posted:If you want a Gang Tag drop me a PM. Please don't fill up the thread asking for them. Please add me to the poverty list of people without PMs (sorry!)
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Jun 11, 2017 23:38
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Man I cant loving wait for tomorrow. I didnt think Corbyn could do it but this weekends been a magical wild ride and I loving hope it continues.
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Jun 11, 2017 23:41
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josh04 posted:Appalling Tory types seem to have settled on the discarded PLP idea that a moderate Labour leader would have beaten May and therefore Corbyn technically did badly. They're such snakes. The story is the same from the Tories and the Labour right. Corbyn is irrelevant, it was May and her disastrous manifesto wot lost it. Of course this theory ignores the fact that she got 43% of the vote, meaning the Tory party was actually extremely popular, and she just suffered because Corbyn's Labour is also extremely popular.
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Jun 11, 2017 23:43
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If they really think that, then run the election again and put your best manifesto forward! I'm sure everyone will just zoom back towards you. Do it. No, really. Do it.
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Jun 11, 2017 23:44
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Also if you look at the actual polling people were voting for Labour because they liked the policies it was presenting, not just to stop May. Heck, it's pretty clear at this point that young people do not turn out en-masse to vote for the lesser of two evils.
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Jun 11, 2017 23:44
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Zero Gravitas posted:Man I cant loving wait for tomorrow. I didnt think Corbyn could do it but this weekends been a magical wild ride and I loving hope it continues. I am literally  ing this thread all day every day. It's been absolutely fascinating.
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Jun 11, 2017 23:45
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As much as it's nice to see a (hopefully, please don't gently caress it all up) reignited Labour party with someone who genuinely connects with people heading it up, I still have a pretty negative outlook on the next few years. And obviously all the grifters who 'delivered' us Brexit will remain rich as gently caress and unaffected.
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Jun 11, 2017 23:46
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Also if you look at the actual polling people were voting for Labour because they liked the policies it was presenting, not just to stop May. Heck, it's pretty clear at this point that young people do not turn out en-masse to vote for the lesser of two evils. Yes, it fails to stand up under the barest of scrutiny. If people hated her manifesto and were turned off voting (or even turned towards Labour) she would not have got 43% of the vote. This election was a straight up fight between someone extremely popular with the old and someone extremely popular with the young.
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jabby posted:The story is the same from the Tories and the Labour right. Corbyn is irrelevant, it was May and her disastrous manifesto wot lost it. It ignores that the Conservative campaign can only possibly be terrible in relation to the Labour one. Like well over 50% of the Tory stuff which flopped was attacks on Corbyn.
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Fans posted:If you want a Gang Tag drop me a PM. Please don't fill up the thread asking for them. Oh man, those are awesome and now I want one, but not sure I "deserve" one or whatever since I'm not a very active poster here. Or how do gang tags work anyway (I can also tell y'all about my feelings towards Corbyn, who's great and I'm super glad he did so well, if that helps)
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Jun 11, 2017 23:48
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Perhaps the worst take from all of this is " Why couldn't all of you young people just think about the country's future rather than only about yourselves, you've ruined our chances of Brexit success".There isn't an  large enough to respond to that with.
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Frankly it all comes down to tomorrow. If they get the Queen's speech passed then its five years of waiting or until whoever stabs may in the back and can maybe turn a Tory leadership struggle into another GE. Or watch as the Tory DUP train falls apart.
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Zero Gravitas posted:Or watch as the Tory DUP train falls apart. It's this. Literally no-one thinks this Parliament will last anything like 5 years.
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Jun 11, 2017 23:53
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i gotta thank you brits because labour's showing was the best i've felt since bernie started winning primaries. hope isn't a lie it just lies dormant sometimes.
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Jun 11, 2017 23:54
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jaete posted:Oh man, those are awesome and now I want one, but not sure I "deserve" one or whatever since I'm not a very active poster here. Or how do gang tags work anyway I mean nobody elected me arbiter or anything but I'd say the willingness to have a winking picture of Our Lord King Jez next to every single one of your posts is probably proof enough of dedication to the cause imo
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Jun 11, 2017 23:58
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Thanks Ants posted:Perhaps the worst take from all of this is " George Soros has paid off the young people to make them work against Brexit so he and his banker cronies can keep the globalist banking cartels secure
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Julio Cruz posted:It's this. Literally no-one thinks this Parliament will last anything like 5 years. I'd be loving terrified if I thought it would.Think we all would be. Can't imagine much worse than a Tory/DUP coalition.
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Jun 12, 2017 00:01
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:George Soros has paid off the young people to make them work against Brexit so he and his banker cronies can keep the globalist banking cartels secure 
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Strom Cuzewon posted:I'd be loving terrified if I thought it would.Think we all would be. Can't imagine much worse than a Tory/DUP coalition. Tory majority.
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Jun 12, 2017 00:03
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I really have no belief at all that May isn't going to form the next government. But another GE in six months could be a pretty foregone conclusion for Labour, providing they can keep up the power they have now and everyone keeps on being fairly pissed off at May. The whole country has turned on her in the last week, strong and stable is 100% hosed so it my depend on what their next idea is.
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Jun 12, 2017 00:03
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I'm the guy on QT moaning that the reason she didn't win is because people voted for that other blow. They shouldn't have voted so she could have won. Democracy.
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Jun 12, 2017 00:04
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Tory majority. I'd argue the slimmest of majorities would have been better but it depends what happens with the DUP.
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Jun 12, 2017 00:06
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I can't get enough of are Dan
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He's either a terrible troll or a genuine nutcase, just tell him to gently caress off and move on.
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Jun 12, 2017 00:07
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HJB posted:I'd argue the slimmest of majorities would have been better but it depends what happens with the DUP. Whatever happens, it will at least be funnier.
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Jun 12, 2017 00:09
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Whatever happens, it will at least be funnier. Can't wait for the based DUP to start rolling back the clock on the human rights on Gay People and to start outright shooting people for Line Dancing 
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Jun 12, 2017 00:13
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From the study:quote:A: Your current yearly income is $50,000; others earn $25,000. And from the conclusion: quote:In our survey, half of the respondents said they would prefer a world in which they have 50 percent less real So yeah it's all about being better off than others.
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Jun 12, 2017 00:16
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Groovelord Neato posted:i gotta thank you brits because labour's showing was the best i've felt since bernie started winning primaries. hope isn't a lie it just lies dormant sometimes. Same. But there have been a few glimpses of the same coming out in the states. Not like this though
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paternity suitor posted:Same. But there have been a few glimpses of the same coming out in the states. Not like this though Can't wait for DNC screws Sanders out of the nom 2: electric boogaloo Intrinsic Field Marshal fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Jun 12, 2017 |
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TheRat posted:Don't do this. fine
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Jun 12, 2017 00:21
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Hoops posted:I really have no belief at all that May isn't going to form the next government. But another GE in six months could be a pretty foregone conclusion for Labour, providing they can keep up the power they have now and everyone keeps on being fairly pissed off at May. The whole country has turned on her in the last week, strong and stable is 100% hosed so it my depend on what their next idea is.
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Pochoclo posted:From the study: I see what they're trying to get at but I don't know if people can remove themselves from the reality of how things would operate to be able to make that decision in the way the people doing the research intend. But I don't doubt that for a lot of people they don't care how much they have, as long as someone else has less.
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Jun 12, 2017 00:24
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Pochoclo posted:From the study: Guess a third option to really see if it's FYGMism would be to ask "would you prefer to get paid £50K while everyone else £25K, or everyone get £60K?"
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Jun 12, 2017 00:26
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Also if you look at the actual polling people were voting for Labour because they liked the policies it was presenting, not just to stop May. Heck, it's pretty clear at this point that young people do not turn out en-masse to vote for the lesser of two evils. No but you see Corbyn was immoral to offer people things they want where's the magic money tree *shits out an uncosted manifesto*
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Jun 12, 2017 00:29
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An non-shitpost for once Why doesn't the government hold the polls on a Saturday instead of a weekday when more people at home from home and could actually vote without having to rush? Why doesn't the government have polling over a two day period so it can gather more votes?
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Jun 12, 2017 00:30
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I had an interesting chat with Clive today and he is officially a Good Lad. I wouldn't be surprised if he was a member of this thread with his political views - he's all over the 'Thatcherite / Reagonomics has ended, moving the Overton window to the left etc.' view of the world. Also very aware of the fact that the reasons for the result were complex and partly due to supporters of other parties e.g. Greens and LibDems lending him their votes to support a progressive cause, which he was very grateful for. He also gave a ringing endorsement to Corbyn's leadership and said everyone in the party should be backing him as the next Prime Minister "no ifs, no buts". Really passionate and unequivocal stuff, so I can't imagine him doing a hostile bid for leadership at this stage. Let's just hope Corbyn is able to do a better job of interacting with the PLP because from speaking to some others in the know, the stories of Corbyn just sitting in silence during meetings etc weren't entirely unfounded.
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At that point why not ask them straight up whether they would prefer to earn less money as long as other people were worse off? Anyone who can understand the scenario they're trying to set up well enough to answer honestly will understand what the question the researchers are actually trying to ask is.
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