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Sinteres posted:If Republicans are going to pursue an investigation of the Trump Justice Department, however reluctantly, Democrats need to be willing to make gestures of nonpartisanship. No, they don't. There is no such thing as nonpartisanship with the right wing, and it's a foolish myth that the left wing needs to constantly prove how even-handed they are. Every nonpartisan act by the left wing plays into the right's hands as they work ever harder to dismantle our system of government and way of life. Despite all the negative attention drawn by Trump and his supporters we still haven't had one inch of actual progress. Even the guy that physically attacked a reporter won his election and was praised by the right wing for using violence. Nothing matters until the right begins paying an actual price for their acts. Not bad polling numbers, not negative comments from allies, not close but still victorious races. People have to lose their job, their office, their reputation. They have to lose political contests, not win them. They have to be drummed out of the government and out of society beyond the ability of any propaganda to support or rehabilitate them.
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mccain, like every republican, won't go full on let's get rid of donald until the writing's on the wall. and yeah bipartisanship is dead and the republicans killed it. the fuckers stole a supreme court seat. they obstructed at every turn even on poo poo that was originally their idea (the aca). gently caress em all. slide that overton window all the way to the other end. Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Jun 12, 2017 |
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John McCain got by on his reputation as a "maverick" who would go after his own party if necessary for a long time. I mean, before his last presidential run he was a semi-regular commentator on The Daily Show. But under his watch the Tea Party was allowed to fester and grow, birtherism was founded, and he stunt casted the Vice President position with Sarah Palin. He's an opportunist who no longer has the capacity to play the game due to his brain turning to applesauce.
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The Lord of Hats posted:. But that guy must have been hotboxing his own farts for,the past year or something. /Pol in a sentence
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Jun 12, 2017 00:08
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It's impossible to take McCain serious after his comments on the filibuster and then his subsequent action that was the exact opposite of his comments
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Jun 12, 2017 00:09
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Pellisworth posted:idk but he just won re-election this year and is 80 years old McCain's corpse will continue to run for office and win every time.
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Jun 12, 2017 00:14
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Ralepozozaxe posted:Isn't McCain not running for re-election, on account of the fact that he's old and done with this? Of course republicans say that kind of stuff a lot and don't mean it (I'm looking a you lil' marco). His re-election is in 6 years and while he hasn't said this is his last term he's getting up there in age.
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Dick Trauma posted:No, they don't. There is no such thing as nonpartisanship with the right wing, and it's a foolish myth that the left wing needs to constantly prove how even-handed they are. Every nonpartisan act by the left wing plays into the right's hands as they work ever harder to dismantle our system of government and way of life. Mueller's investigation is massive progress, and the Senate's expressions of concern, bullshit though they may be, are signals to Trump that there are limits. If every Republican senator was just sticking to the Paul Ryan line of refusing to comment or making excuses, Trump would feel emboldened to fire Mueller too. Republicans are bad actors, and they won't go as far as you want, I want, or as far as the situation deserves, but they aren't doing nothing, and they aren't being 100% partisan on this investigation, with some obvious exceptions like Devin Nunes.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Now look at how many of those votes actually mattered. Don't throw him a parade. He's still a republican and all republicans are monsters. He is far to the right of even the most rightward democrat. He's not a good man. But there is a point it just comes off as whiney. Like you don't need to give him constant praise and suck his dick for agreeing with you sometimes on things rarely, but there is a line where throwing a fit every time he is on your/our side just seems dumb and counterproductive. Like singling out the republicans that you agree with sometimes to hate more than the republicans that you never agree with seems really dumb.
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Fart City posted:John McCain got by on his reputation as a "maverick" who would go after his own party if necessary for a long time. I mean, before his last presidential run he was a semi-regular commentator on The Daily Show. But under his watch the Tea Party was allowed to fester and grow, birtherism was founded, and he stunt casted the Vice President position with Sarah Palin. He's an opportunist who no longer has the capacity to play the game due to his brain turning to applesauce. Fester? The bastard bought Palin into the world, he helped create it. There's a political cartoon where the first three panels are "Obama is a mofo on ___________" and the 4th with the punchline "I didn't say Obama hosed his mom."
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Jun 12, 2017 00:17
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Sinteres posted:Mueller's investigation is massive progress, and the Senate's expressions of concern, bullshit though they may be, are signals to Trump that there are limits. If every Republican senator was just sticking to the Paul Ryan line of refusing to comment or making excuses, Trump would feel emboldened to fire Mueller too. Republicans are bad actors, and they won't go as far as you want, I want, or as far as the situation deserves, but they aren't doing nothing, and they aren't being 100% partisan on this investigation, with some obvious exceptions like Devin Nunes. so what you're responding to someone expressing that there are no consolation prizes by describing the consolation prizes
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Jun 12, 2017 00:18
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Rep. Salwel has crazy person graphs on his .gov site :O https://swalwell.house.gov/issues/russia-trump-his-administration-s-ties
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Jun 12, 2017 00:20
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PhazonLink posted:Fester? The bastard bought Palin into the world, he helped create it. actually its 6 panels
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Jun 12, 2017 00:21
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A happy reminder that we could've had Mindless McCain up until this past January. I'm sure 4-8 years' worth of presidency would've done wonders for his constitution and mental acuity. We need a constitutional amendment capping the presidential age at 65. At least then the parties will have to prioritize candidates in their mid-50s at the oldest.
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Jun 12, 2017 00:22
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skylined! posted:so what Or responding to someone who thinks nothing matters by pointing out something that matters. One other thing I forgot to mention is that if we take Comey's testimony as true, which we're obviously screaming at Republicans to do when it comes to Trump, Loretta Lynch's perceived soft pedaling of the investigation into Hillary set of a chain of events that led to her losing the election. If she did that, I think it's worth knowing. Our side doing stupid poo poo is a good reason to want to police behavior on our side, and a good reason for why Republicans should want to police theirs. Our side is the weaker side in American politics though, so we have to be more careful than they do.
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Jun 12, 2017 00:24
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hanales posted:Rep. Salwel has crazy person graphs on his .gov site :O at first glance none of that seems crazy. which is crazy. Sinteres posted:Or responding to someone who thinks nothing matters by pointing out something that matters. that is not at all how i interpreted forums poster Dick Trauma's post as meaning
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Jun 12, 2017 00:28
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Serfer posted:https://youtu.be/JTqOqNqRyiI Ladies and gentlemen, we have here an excellent demonstration of a call for a compaction cycle coming as a direct result of narrative dysphoria.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:A happy reminder that we could've had Mindless McCain up until this past January. I'm sure 4-8 years' worth of presidency would've done wonders for his constitution and mental acuity. This isn't reasonable for a constitutional amendment. 65 is an arbitrary age, and as medical advances continue, people will have greater function stretching into their later years. Regular physical and psychological screening by an independent panel makes more sense.
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There Bias Two posted:This isn't reasonable for a constitutional amendment. 65 is an arbitrary age, and as medical advances continue, people will have greater function stretching into their later years. People should at least stop falling in love with ancient candidates. It blows my mind how many people want Bernie to run in 2020 even though he'll be 79 loving years old. Way to show a contrast with Demented Donald. Biden's obviously far too old as well.
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Jun 12, 2017 00:35
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So what happens if the US needs to act on defensive agreements with a country if war breaks out and Trump is making GBS threads on the country at the same time?
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There Bias Two posted:This isn't reasonable for a constitutional amendment. 65 is an arbitrary age, and as medical advances continue, people will have greater function stretching into their later years. Arbitrary or not, I like the idea of a sitting president - fuckhead or not - having some skin in the game. Knowing they still have 20-40+ years to live and children under the age of 18 might make them slightly better stewards of the country and environment than a 70+ year old man who only knocked up his current wife if she legally promised to lose the baby weight.
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Jun 12, 2017 00:37
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yes i just can't believe every president over the last several decades has been over the age of 65 when taking office
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skylined! posted:yes i just can't believe every president over the last several decades has been over the age of 65 when taking office Two have, and three of the last five nominees were well over 65. Looks like Romney was just over 65 too, so four of the last five nominees were seniors. Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Jun 12, 2017 |
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Jun 12, 2017 00:38
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I'd be okay with a law that said either the POTUS or the VP have to be under 65.
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Sinteres posted:Two have, and three of the last five nominees were well over 65. yes friend. i am aware.
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Jun 12, 2017 00:41
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I'd be okay with a law that said the POTUS had to be a dog.
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Jun 12, 2017 00:42
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skylined! posted:yes friend. i am aware. As Americans are getting older, it makes sense that they're voting for older candidates, so it makes sense that it's becoming a more pressing issue now than it was in the past.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Arbitrary or not, I like the idea of a sitting president - fuckhead or not - having some skin in the game. Knowing they still have 20-40+ years to live and children under the age of 18 might make them slightly better stewards of the country and environment than a 70+ year old man who only knocked up his current wife if she legally promised to lose the baby weight. And yet, Marco Rubio. Age is not the issue. Death cult political ideologies are. Gut the right and cripple them eternally.
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Fulchrum posted:And yet, Marco Rubio. Maybe there's more than one issue. The death cult political ideology one is worse, but creeping senility in our leaders isn't great either.
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Jun 12, 2017 00:44
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1-800-DOCTORB posted:I'd be okay with a law that said the POTUS had to be a dog. "President Lassie is in hot water today after barking at the Prime Minister of Lesotho..."
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Jun 12, 2017 00:44
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How old was JFK? All Presidents should be around that age.
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Jun 12, 2017 00:46
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:How old was JFK? All Presidents should be around that age. LBJ wasn't
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:How old was JFK? All Presidents should be around that age. Kennedy was 43 when taking office, Clinton was 46, Dubya was 54, Obama was 47. Graph of Presidential ages when taking office:  Guess who the "70-74" is.  The mean age is now ~55.5y because of him.Teddy Roosevelt was the other "40-44." BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Jun 12, 2017 |
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Jun 12, 2017 00:50
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The Great Mattering begins in 2018 but only if every single person who isn't a piss baby and able to vote gets off their lazy rear end. At the very least go vote straight D.
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Jun 12, 2017 00:50
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maybe instead of making hard rules about dumb poo poo voters can take candidate age into consideration when it comes time to choose who they want to be represented by
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Jun 12, 2017 00:52
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The mandatory retirement age for presidents should be 65 - any president who teaches that age during their term should have to resign
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Jun 12, 2017 00:52
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We should go full Prez and make a teenager president.
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Mustached Demon posted:The Great Mattering begins in 2018 but only if every single person who isn't a piss baby and able to vote gets off their lazy rear end. At the very least go vote straight D. What annoys the hell out of me is that is 6 months before I become a citizen. Earliest I can vote is 2020!
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enraged_camel posted:What annoys the hell out of me is that is 6 months before I become a citizen. Earliest I can vote is 2020! Depending on your locale, there could be state/local elections in 2019. Those are super important too and the Good Guys seem to ignore them all too often.
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Mantis42 posted:We should go full Prez and make a teenager president. Not many people are going to get this reference, so: 
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