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Runs like poo poo based on that video, not sure what you're trying to get at here? You'll get much better performance simply running one of the modern Atom mobile designs. Seriously go check out one of those GPD Win devices, they work a whole lot better.
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fishmech posted:Runs like poo poo based on that video, not sure what you're trying to get at here? You'll get much better performance simply running one of the modern Atom mobile designs. Spergmech strikes again.
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That's actually really impressive.
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dont be mean to me posted:Why did you think inherently and incontrovertibly quantifiable phenomena would be exempt from 'lol nothing matters'? At least now I can give those tinfoil conspiracy nuts that Apple will go "all ARM" one day. I'd be a total bloodbath with absolutely Zero compatibility layer. If intel can bite the hand that fed it the lion share of desktop sales, it can attack anyone.
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incoherent posted:If intel can bite the hand that fed it the lion share of desktop sales, it can attack anyone. I really want to see the outcome of Intel continuing to attack Microsoft.
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incoherent posted:At least now I can give those tinfoil conspiracy nuts that Apple will go "all ARM" one day. I'd be a total bloodbath with absolutely Zero compatibility layer. If intel can bite the hand that fed it the lion share of desktop sales, it can attack anyone. Also, intel might be developing a case of hubris???
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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I've read some blahblah about how that Der8auer dude says that replacing the Skylake-X TIM with liquid metal gives a similar temperature drop as he got when removing the indium solder from a 5960X, so the TIM doesn't appear to me that bad and I guess it means they got the gap right (apparently).
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Combat Pretzel posted:I've read some blahblah about how that Der8auer dude says that replacing the Skylake-X TIM with liquid metal gives a similar temperature drop as he got when removing the indium solder from a 5960X, so the TIM doesn't appear to me that bad and I guess it means they got the gap right (apparently). at this stage I would take anything that Der8auer says with a pinch of salt given how much stuff intel is chucking at him
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yeah he posted this on instagram GN made a whole video on how their X299 coverage didn't get enough views  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep27BFa-QfQ eames fucked around with this message at 14:13 on Jun 11, 2017 |
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der8auer reports that the 7900X @ 5 Ghz pulled 350W which would explain the pretty toasty temps with an AIO. edit: X299 motherboard CAD prices leaked. 200-500 USD. http://www.ncix.com/search/?qcatid=0&q=x299 eames fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Jun 11, 2017 |
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Wish those placeholders had feature lists so I could know what the gently caress the top end is adding to be worth $600 edit: wifi, tb3, u.2, and a built in screen Malloc Voidstar fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Jun 12, 2017 |
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Malloc Voidstar posted:Wish those placeholders had feature lists so I could know what the gently caress the top end is adding to be worth $600 Maybe the top end comes with the ~RAID KEY~.
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To be fair to those prices while I was shopping for X99 boards before I settled on one for just under 200 there were X99 options for 500 too. If people want to give them extra money they need to figure out how to let them even if all it means some black plastic and a silk screen.
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eames posted:yeah he posted this on instagram How seriously should I take this? It looks like most of the chips are actually going quite a bit farther than the first one he delidded. Like the one on the very top right is labeled '5525', if that's a golden sample then he got a lovely chip the first pick. edit: maybe those are LN2 clocks? But that does look like thermal paste on top, which you probably wouldn't use with a LN2 pot? Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Jun 12, 2017 |
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pcgamesn.com posted:Gregory Bryant, Intel's head of PC gubbins, said the first Core i7 X-series chips and the 10-core Core i9 will be available next week, with pre-orders for the 'mega-tasking' (bleurgh) 12-, 14-, 16- and 18-core processors also kicking off at the same time. I found AMDs 1 week of pre-orders for Ryzena bit on the nose. Really not sure how I feel about pre-orders starting next week for a CPU you won't get until sometime in October... holy poo poo.
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Measly Twerp posted:I found AMDs 1 week of pre-orders for Ryzena bit on the nose. Really not sure how I feel about pre-orders starting next week for a CPU you won't get until sometime in October... holy poo poo. Skylake-X is shipping on June 19 though, woot. And I assume NDA will lift sometime before that? So it really won't be long until we get real answers on overclockability.
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So we know for sure that Coffee Lake won't run on Z170/Z270... but do we know the inverse? i.e. will Skylake and Kaby Lake run on Z370, or is Z370 restricted to literally only Coffee Lake? Not that it's not going to be an upgrade for the consumer platform... but is there any reason for high-end users to wait for Coffee Lake when 6-core/8-core Skylake-X is just around the corner?
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I thought the nda was ment to havw lifted by now?
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Paul MaudDib posted:How seriously should I take this? Yeah most likely LN2 or single core clocks. He mentioned in other videos that he had access to SL-X six months before the announcement and that the sample presented is one of the best, so not necessarily representative. 4.7-4.8 with an AIO is more realistic. It also hits a wall around 1.3V Vcore even under LN2 unlike Kaby Lake which handles up to 2.2V. PS: They do use thermal paste with LN2. Gamer's Nexus recently uploaded a LN2 with him.
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eames posted:Yeah most likely LN2 or single core clocks. He mentioned in other videos that he had access to SL-X six months before the announcement and that the sample presented is one of the best, so not necessarily representative. 4.7-4.8 with an AIO is more realistic. It also hits a wall around 1.3V Vcore even under LN2 unlike Kaby Lake which handles up to 2.2V. Broadwell-E hit 5.7 GHz on LN2 though, so 5.5 GHz doesn't sound very good to me.
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So when sre we going to see reviews come out? I remember seeing somewhere that the 12th was ment to be the end of the nda? Also I'm really torn between intel and amd, im ether going to go with intels 10 core offering or a 16c threadripper i really really hate the x299 eco system and how intel has taken stuff away from people re pcie lanes etc but if that 10core can get overclocked to 4.5ghz all cores or higher with water it would be so hard to say no to such performance:(
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Rumors are that the NDA lifts on Friday. I'm also interested in X299 because a 6 or 8 core clocking to 5 Ghz would be all the CPU I need at the moment, assuming KVM GPU passthrough actually works. Threadripper singlethread performance should be roughly identical to the 1700X/1800X and while they're nice I'm not sure it's enough for a 165 Hz screen. Muh frames. 
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Scarecow posted:So when sre we going to see reviews come out? I remember seeing somewhere that the 12th was ment to be the end of the nda? What are you doing to regularly hit that many cores? I have a really hard time justifying more than a 6-8c machine personally. Even video encoding can fall off across 10+ cores.
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Gwaihir posted:What are you doing to regularly hit that many cores? I have a really hard time justifying more than a 6-8c machine personally. Even video encoding can fall off across 10+ cores. Probably browsing the internet.
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PerrineClostermann posted:Probably browsing the internet. It's the type of power you need if you're gonna browse with Chrome and like 40 tabs open. And 64GB of RAM. Fuckin' memory leaks. (in all seriousness I'd love if FF would just fuckin' eat some more RAM already and not crash regularly every time I have more than a dozen or so tabs running for a few days)
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DrDork posted:It's the type of power you need if you're gonna browse with Chrome and like 40 tabs open. And 64GB of RAM. Fuckin' memory leaks. Just checking but, you did make sure to upgrade to the 64 bit version of Firefox when it became the mainstream release a while back right?
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fishmech posted:Just checking but, you did make sure to upgrade to the 64 bit version of Firefox when it became the mainstream release a while back right? Yeah, it just seems to have problems freeing memory or somesuch after a while. I'll have 20 pages of basically static content open for a few days with no changes, and randomly it'll crash on me due to running out of memory (on a 16GB system + pagefile). It's just a minor annoyance though, so whatever.
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Ostensibly there's some benchmarks of the Threadripper 1950X out (3.4GHz). Linear scaling based on clockrate should be 30,7% compared to the 2.6GHz of the 16C/32T Xeon used as reference. On single-threaded, the TR only around 8-17% faster than the 30% slower clocked Xeon. In multi-threaded, the Xeon wipes the floor with the TR. The gently caress knows how turboing influences it all. Wccftech, so salt etc. http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-threadripper-1950x-specs-performance-leak/ So yeah, still 7820X for me it is for now. Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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Combat Pretzel posted:Ostensibly there's some benchmarks of the Threadripper 1950X out (3.4GHz). Linear scaling based on clockrate should be 30,7% compared to the 2.6GHz of the 16C/32T Xeon used as reference. On single-threaded, the TR only around 8-17% faster than the 30% slower clocked Xeon. In multi-threaded, the Xeon wipes the floor with the TR. The gently caress knows how turboing influences it all. Very likely a fake since a R7-1700X will hit around the same score at 3.4GHz.
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Measly Twerp posted:Very likely a fake since a R7-1700X will hit around the same score at 3.4GHz. Or bad BIOS or microcode or OS that's not able to use the platform effectively, for all we know not all cores are being used correctly.
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PerrineClostermann posted:Probably browsing the internet. Im doing a full retard build (never done one and im going all out with sli 1080tis full custom water loop with 2 res and 4 radiators hard line tubing etc) Yes i know its loving stupid but ive always wanted to do one so thats why i want to do a 10core intel or a 16core threadripper
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Scarecow posted:Im doing a full retard build (never done one and im going all out with sli 1080tis full custom water loop with 2 res and 4 radiators hard line tubing etc) hi jayz
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Scarecow posted:Im doing a full retard build (never done one and im going all out with sli 1080tis full custom water loop with 2 res and 4 radiators hard line tubing etc) I didn't mean it sarcastically, if that's how it was interpreted. Browsing the net can sap a lot of resources and multitasking is pretty important.
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PerrineClostermann posted:I didn't mean it sarcastically, if that's how it was interpreted. Browsing the net can sap a lot of resources and multitasking is pretty important. Yeah i figured  and i do run 2 27inch 1440p monitors in portrait mode with a x34 in the middle while gaming i have a million crome pages open, discord, mumble and ether netflix or something else running so i figure having cores spare to dump that stuff on while 4-6 cores are being used purely for the game cant be a bad thing
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The 10 core skylake-x is going to come up a lot because of PCIe lanes and I really don't think it's positioned very well. Or it's positioned particularly spitefully. The niche of people who would be better served by the 7900x than the 16 core threadripper will probably be pretty small since you're already deep into the realm of heavily threaded workloads. Except I might be stuck firmly inside that niche myself because I want to game in a Windows VM while giving enough resources to both the host and guest. Though realistically a 12c threadripper - especially if it had higher base clocks and more consistent overclocks from disabling marginal cores - would probably be a better choice, 16 cores just sounds so appealing. e: What do you need two reservoirs for?
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Desuwa posted:The 10 core skylake-x is going to come up a lot because of PCIe lanes and I really don't think it's positioned very well. Or it's positioned particularly spitefully. The niche of people who would be better served by the 7900x than the 16 core threadripper will probably be pretty small since you're already deep into the realm of heavily threaded workloads. Except I might be stuck firmly inside that niche myself because I want to game in a Windows VM while giving enough resources to both the host and guest. I have a sma8 so its a rather large case
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Scarecow posted:Im doing a full retard build (never done one and im going all out with sli 1080tis full custom water loop with 2 res and 4 radiators hard line tubing etc) Yo, it's not "loving stupid." Go for it. I'm going to do a similar thing, because like you, I've always wanted to put together something high-end like this too. People buy things or build things that are overkill or impractical in all sorts of fields/interests/hobbies, and they do it for all sorts of reasons and no one (rightly) gives gently caress about ROI, but god forbid you spend $200 more than you need to on a cpu because what are you ever gonna use those two extra cores for??!!
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WAR DOGS OF SOCHI posted:Yo, it's not "loving stupid." Go for it. I'm going to do a similar thing, because like you, I've always wanted to put together something high-end like this too. This is why water cooling custom loops exist. And Gucci ARs. And luxury cars. One day, I'll do the same
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