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Owlofcreamcheese posted:He is like number three for voting against the party line. He's still a republican but few republicans break with the party more than he does That's not true. Only Cruz has voted for Trump's stuff at a higher clip than McCain.
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"The British election is a reminder of the perils of too much democracy," such as the awful party resting on their laurels getting smashed while playing for a super majority.
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Delaware just became the first state to enshrine abortion as a fundamental constitutional right. No immediate effects. But if Roe v. Wade is ever overturned, then it will have no impact on Delaware unless Congress votes to ban abortion at the federal level.
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Well well well look who wants to climb on board the sinking ship. https://twitter.com/AP/status/874020406159712256
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Mustached Demon posted:The Great Mattering begins in 2018 but only if every single person who isn't a piss baby and able to vote gets off their lazy rear end. At the very least go vote straight D. Good news! At least here in Texas they're working to get rid of straight ticket voting like that.
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So what are we supposed to do now, burn all the flags with 50 stars?
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Has this been posted already? https://twitter.com/sam_kriss/status/874019528925171712
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Jealous Cow posted:Well well well look who wants to climb on board the sinking ship. I bet Trump will refuse to accept it.
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Mr Interweb posted:Has this been posted already? It deserved a second posting.
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Jealous Cow posted:Well well well look who wants to climb on board the sinking ship.  why would they do that.
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Discendo Vox posted:
More access to federal money, and I believe the ability to actually declare bankruptcy.
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Discendo Vox posted:
Cuz they're like 50 gazillion dollars in debt and statehood would help dig them out of the hole.
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Deceptive Thinker posted:The mandatory retirement age for presidents should be 65 - any president who teaches that age during their term should have to resign You do get this would have left us with president Ted Cruz?
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1-800-DOCTORB posted:I'd be okay with a law that said the POTUS had to be a dog. The amendment has to allow room for a supreme court justice to affirm that there is no rule that a dog can't be president. Anything else ruins the fun imo.
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Cheekio posted:So what are we supposed to do now, burn all the flags with 50 stars? Kick out a red state. Fulchrum posted:You do get this would have left us with president Ted Cruz? Being a human and having a soul should also be a requirement.
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Pollyanna posted:I bet Trump will refuse to accept it. Republicans will because its "democrats win forever" if they get voting rights.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Republicans will because its "democrats win forever" if they get voting rights. Hopefully Trump goes public in support of it before they explain that to him.
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Fulchrum posted:You do get this would have left us with president Ted Cruz? I think MOM would have beaten Ted
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PR has voted for statehood before. Congress never admits them. It's a non-binding resolution, a bunch of major parties boycotted the election, and PR is swimming it debt + Republican congress. It won't happen.
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Puerto Rico wouldn't be enough house seats to flip it. 2018 is still going to be a real roughshod election year. That said, if we get a D swing like 2010 again then the democrats should give statehood to every minor island and principality. Hell, break California into three states.
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Problematic Pigeon posted:Cuz they're like 50 gazillion dollars in debt and statehood would help dig them out of the hole. As far as I could tell from the last time I looked at the financial requirements involved, it would actually screw them over worse in terms of support and governance obligations. Even if it would let them declare bankruptcy (a nightmare scenario), it'd be a temporary benefit that would create infinitely worse financia- oh, right, this is Puerto Rico. This is basically their M. O.
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remusclaw posted:Hopefully Trump goes public in support of it before they explain that to him. You just need to convince Trump that PR wants on board because he's the president now.
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Pollyanna posted:I bet Trump will refuse to accept it. His base would hate it. To then, brown Spanish speaking people are dirty Mexicans and therefore not legal build the wall maga
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My understanding is that PR votes in it for real in October and then it would be up to Congress, correct? One house or two?
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Cheekio posted:It deserved a second posting. The part at the end threw me off a bit, though. Initially I thought they were trying to get rid of him cause they thought he was some loser nerd and not a true believer, but then the one guy shouts "get that nazi poo poo out of here!". So they're actually somewhat, sorta, kinda not totally horrible people?
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Discendo Vox posted:As far as I could tell from the last time I looked at the financial requirements involved, it would actually screw them over worse in terms of support and governance obligations. Even if it would let them declare bankruptcy (a nightmare scenario), it'd be a temporary benefit that would create infinitely worse financia- Everything I've seen shows they still be screwed, just less so with statehood. It would have benefited them more if they became a state like 20 years ago, but that ship has sailed.
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I thought Puerto Rico does a vote like... every year to say "WE WANT STATEHOOD!" Is this something particularly new or different, other than the fact that they're more in debt than last time?
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Mr Interweb posted:The part at the end threw me off a bit, though. Initially I thought they were trying to get rid of him cause they thought he was some loser nerd and not a true believer, but then the one guy shouts "get that nazi poo poo out of here!". So they're actually somewhat, sorta, kinda not totally horrible people? Maybe they're just shitheads who also think nazis are bad.
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Yeah I think they had a similar referendum in 2012 or 2014. It means nothing, as long as Congress is controlled by Republicans it's not going to happen.
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Mr Interweb posted:The part at the end threw me off a bit, though. Initially I thought they were trying to get rid of him cause they thought he was some loser nerd and not a true believer, but then the one guy shouts "get that nazi poo poo out of here!". So they're actually somewhat, sorta, kinda not totally horrible people? I think it's more that the non-meme nazis really fail to see themselves as nazis. The pepe guys will wear nazi regalia because "kek", but the mainstream/confederate/MAGA people will point at swastikas with that body snatchers shriek just like anyone else. They simply won't accept it if you try to explain that they, too, are nazis.
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Apparently Comey wasn't the only fired official Trump made uncomfortable.quote:Preet Bharara, a prominent former U.S. attorney ousted by President Trump, said Sunday that he reported to the Justice Department efforts by the president to “cultivate some kind of relationship” with him, describing phone calls from Trump that made him increasingly uncomfortable.
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PhazonLink posted:Kick out a red state. Or just merge the Dakotas together.
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Mr Interweb posted:The part at the end threw me off a bit, though. Initially I thought they were trying to get rid of him cause they thought he was some loser nerd and not a true believer, but then the one guy shouts "get that nazi poo poo out of here!". So they're actually somewhat, sorta, kinda not totally horrible people? https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/oath-keepers
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Our flag is going to look like poo poo with 51 stars. It already looks like rear end with 50. 48 stars forever.
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SgtScruffy posted:I thought Puerto Rico does a vote like... every year to say "WE WANT STATEHOOD!" Is this something particularly new or different, other than the fact that they're more in debt than last time? They've voted on this issue quite a few times but if I remember right they are usually pretty split between the people who want statehood, the people who want to remain a territory and the people who want independence. Does anyone know if this is the first time they've had an "overwhelming majority" in favor of statehood? I use the quotes cause apparently less than a 1/3rd of the populace voted but I suppose it still counts as a majority. I can see Trump being for it just because how often would someone get a chance to approve a new state? It's been a while. I doubt he'd put any more thought into it than that.
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Data Graham posted:I think it's more that the non-meme nazis really fail to see themselves as nazis. The pepe guys will wear nazi regalia because "kek", but the mainstream/confederate/MAGA people will point at swastikas with that body snatchers shriek just like anyone else. They simply won't accept it if you try to explain that they, too, are nazis. Yeah, my impression was that they either think he's mocking them with poo poo they're accused of, or that they'll be associated with the symbols he's ironically representing, which they actually represent but would prefer not to visually embrace.
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Krispy Kareem posted:Our flag is going to look like poo poo with 51 stars. Add Puerto Rico and merge North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming, and Montana together.
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Krispy Kareem posted:Our flag is going to look like poo poo with 51 stars. I dunno, I like this one. 
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