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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
The Tories magic money tree actually does exist you've just got to feed it bits of the rich.

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DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

forkboy84 posted:

I'm really lucky I never got to that point with any alcohol despite having more than my fair share of nights where too much of a type of alcohol was drunk & I ended up barfing. Including in the past week. Never learn.

I didn't learn from drinking too much, but a few days spent in a liver and kidney ward (unrelated to drinking)is a right loving eye opener.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

MikeCrotch posted:

Jess Phillips and Chris Leslie are the two most vocal critics so far, they will be kept far from power and will be the ones feeding Dan Hodges et. al publicly.

Tom Watson and Chukka have awkwardly bent the knee - they will be quiet for now, but watch out for them if things go badly.

Yvette Cooper is a snake waiting to strike but she's too popular within the PLP really to keep away from power, plus Corbyn is too good for this world and really doesn't like punishing people. She is definitely one to keep an eye on.

Stella Creasy has been remarkably quite the last few months but she's popular, was a candidate for Dep. Leadership, and is no fan of Corbyn at all.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

communism bitch posted:

I like John McDonnell but he's not PM material because he's the sort of arsehole who produces a copy of the Little Red Book in the Commons.
He's the kind of guy who you want behind the throne pushing the left wing agenda and bollocking everybody who steps out of line.

haha i forgot he did that

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


forkboy84 posted:

I'm really lucky I never got to that point with any alcohol despite having more than my fair share of nights where too much of a type of alcohol was drunk & I ended up barfing. Including in the past week. Never learn.

I can't go near snakebite & black for similar reasons, but I'm not 18 anymore either so it's not something I miss.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

freebooter posted:

The idea that your are required to update your address at a central government register, via the police, and will be penalised if you don't? Yes. There's a reason we don't do that in English common law countries.

edit - like I said before, we all effectively live on the grid anyway, and it's not like I think Finland, Germany etc are monstrous totalitarian states. I just don't see why it's necessary.

It helps government statistics, bureaucracy, logistics, tax and policy decisions. Voter ID law for instance wouldn't be a big deal at all in the US if they had an actual civic registry instead of the garbage half-solution that social security numbers are. Also do keep in mind that this is different from country to country. For instance, me as a Swede registers to our tax administration and while the law requires it there is no punishment for me not doing so. It's information I provide to the government to help them help me, not to facilitate them keeping track of me. They are fully capable of doing that without a civic registry.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Is Theresa May currently getting a megabollocking by the 1922 Committee?

When do we hear what's going on with that?

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)
Speaking of salt, has my arch-nemesis kapparomeo stuck his oar in yet?

Filboid Studge posted:



Owen Smith just hand-delivered this. He was off up the road too fast but I wanted to thank him for the mea culpa on Friday.

Man, I'm bad at reading people's handwriting. What does the bottom of this say? Something about October?

Halisnacks
Jul 18, 2009

Another Person posted:

if you shorten a list down to anyone who has ever expressed doubt in corbyn after he became leader, at the lowest points in his leadership and how many of those lows there have been to the public, then i think the list will only contain john mcdonnell

you need to be willing to accept, and probably also want, someone who is willing to gaze a critical eye over Corbyn's tenure as leader in any future contest, who is willing to judge both the successes and failures fairly. this means being willing to say some elements were bad.

I think there's a difference between "expressing doubt" during a nadir in his leadership and not even be willing to stand by one's act of nominating someone at the time.

Another Person
Oct 21, 2010

Barry Foster posted:

Speaking of salt, has my arch-nemesis kapparomeo stuck his oar in yet?


Man, I'm bad at reading people's handwriting. What does the bottom of this say? Something about October?

ps Can you keep the board __h the election I expect in October?

if not - call please?

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Barry Foster posted:

Speaking of salt, has my arch-nemesis kapparomeo stuck his oar in yet?


Man, I'm bad at reading people's handwriting. What does the bottom of this say? Something about October?

"Can you keep the board until the election I expect in october, if not call ###"

coffeetable
Feb 5, 2006

TELL ME AGAIN HOW GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE IF IT WAS RULED BY THE MERCILESS JACKBOOT OF PRINCE CHARLES

YES I DO TALK TO PLANTS ACTUALLY
e: nm

Filboid Studge
Oct 1, 2010
And while they debated the matter among themselves, Conradin made himself another piece of toast.

"Can you keep the board [sign with Labour on] until the election I expect in October".

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


coffeetable posted:

actually yeah, could someone with more knowledge of labour internals go through the list and bold the ones who are particularly promising, and strike through the ones which don't have a chance?

from my tiny knowledge:

Just cross-referenced with this list, probably using it for the opposite purpose for which it was intended:

quote:

Cat Smith
Catherine West
Clive Lewis
Emily Thornberry
Graham Morris
Imran Hussain
Jon Trickett
Kate Osamor
Kelvin Hopkins
Rebecca Long Bailey
Richard Burgon
Ronnie Campbell
Tulip Siddiq

Another Person
Oct 21, 2010

communism bitch posted:

"Can you keep the board until the election I expect in october, if not call ###"

that weird line is until? man, gently caress cursive

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)
Thanks chums

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Another Person posted:

that weird line is until? man, gently caress cursive

Welcome to the hell that is my daily existence.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

communism bitch posted:

Welcome to the hell that is my daily existence.


That's some hieroglyphics poo poo, op

Another Person
Oct 21, 2010

communism bitch posted:

Welcome to the hell that is my daily existence.


this legit just looks like arabic to me

Another Person
Oct 21, 2010
im gonna guess it is in some form of shorthand tho

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...y-a7785026.html

The Orange Lodge wants to be able to start riots in Catholic towns restart the peaceful Orange Walks down streets that just happen to be full of Catholics and they want the DUP to put pressure on the Tories to allow this.

There are people salivating at the idea of the bad old days coming back. Like dogs to a dinner bell.

Xaerael
Aug 25, 2010

Marching Powder is objectively the worst poster known. He also needs to learn how a keyboard works.

communism bitch posted:

Welcome to the hell that is my daily existence.


What's the part about "in the darkness bind them" on about?

Non joke, my first boss wrote like this, he was an optician. Imagine being me, the practice tech, and having to decipher his chicken scratchings daily.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

MikeCrotch posted:

Jess Phillips and Chris Leslie are the two most vocal critics so far, they will be kept far from power and will be the ones feeding Dan Hodges et. al publicly.

Tom Watson and Chukka have awkwardly bent the knee - they will be quiet for now, but watch out for them if things go badly.

Yvette Cooper is a snake waiting to strike but she's too popular within the PLP really to keep away from power, plus Corbyn is too good for this world and really doesn't like punishing people. She is definitely one to keep an eye on.

Can Hodges even remotely be considered a 'dissenting Labourite' anymore? He voted Tory and it is pretty plain that his issue with Corbyn isn't just based on perceived 'electability' and is actually totally ideological. Whereas many people seem to be accepting they got it wrong and actually appear to be relieved at his surge, Hodges is moving the goalposts with the best of the Tory commentariat. He's just another Tory to be ignored imo. I love imagining his dinner table chats with his mum because iirc Glenda Jackson was pretty cool.

Vlex
Aug 4, 2006
I'd rather be a climbing ape than a big titty angel.



Stella Creasy (Hella Easy) is my MP, I have half a mind to get in touch regarding recent affairs and her place in them. Do MPs actually read correspondence from their constituents? I imagine letters are more likely to be read than e-mails?

edit: Handwritingchat: I have colleagues who work with handwritten Early Modern (Renaissance-Industrial Revolution) texts, everything from private letters to rock engravings, i.e. definitely not nice manuscripts with proper orthography etc.. I swear they develop some kind of mutant power or sixth sense, because not only can they read 400 year old bird footprints on vellum, they recognise the hands of individuals.

Vlex fucked around with this message at 11:39 on Jun 12, 2017

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Another Person posted:

im gonna guess it is in some form of shorthand tho

It's in english and not in shorthand. A couple of years ago I had to individually summarise about 3,000 20-30 page documents this arsehole wrote and I often wanted to die.

e: and those those remarks about it being satanic curses - it's actually something far more evil: a bunch of lease and freehold documents.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


forkboy84 posted:

I'm really lucky I never got to that point with any alcohol despite having more than my fair share of nights where too much of a type of alcohol was drunk & I ended up barfing. Including in the past week. Never learn.

I don't drink much anymore but was at it during election night, narrowly avoided a vom.

Problem is iv spent a lot of time since thinking about how goddamn delicious tequila is with limes and chillis

Need to wait for a special occasion though alcoholism runs in my family and Ive been known to dabble myself in the past

Another Person
Oct 21, 2010

communism bitch posted:

It's in english and not in shorthand. A couple of years ago I had to individually summarise about 3,000 20-30 page documents this arsehole wrote and I often wanted to die.

im still not convinced that is writing, never mind in english or not in shorthand

i cant believe schools still teach this poo poo

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


Vlex posted:

Stella Creasy (Hella Easy) is my MP, I have half a mind to get in touch regarding recent affairs and her place in them. Do MPs actually read correspondence from their constituents? I imagine letters are more likely to be read than e-mails?

I've always gotten a nice reply by post when I've emailed my MP.


Further refinements:

quote:

Richard Burgon
Imran Hussain
Rebecca Long Bailey
Grahame Morris
Kate Osamor
Tulip Siddiq
Kelvin Hopkins

...but, I think we're officially out of heavy hitters at this point, and would struggle to find a politician who isn't a poo poo in some respect, anyway. There Is One Leader, And Corbyn Is His Name.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

ThomasPaine posted:

Can Hodges even remotely be considered a 'dissenting Labourite' anymore? He voted Tory and it is pretty plain that his issue with Corbyn isn't just based on perceived 'electability' and is actually totally ideological. Whereas many people seem to be accepting they got it wrong and actually appear to be relieved at his surge, Hodges is moving the goalposts with the best of the Tory commentariat. He's just another Tory to be ignored imo. I love imagining his dinner table chats with his mum because iirc Glenda Jackson was pretty cool.

I mean its patently obvious that he's a Tory oval office at this point, but that won't stop him from stirring poo poo based on "anonymous senior Labour sources." Maybe Danzcuck is going to steal his job in that regard?

Vlex posted:

Stella Creasy (Hella Easy) is my MP, I have half a mind to get in touch regarding recent affairs and her place in them. Do MPs actually read correspondence from their constituents? I imagine letters are more likely to be read than e-mails?

Depends on the MP I think - I know people who live in Rushcliffe who said that they always got a response from Ken Clarke and respected him for that and his work in the constituency, even if they didn't like his politics.

Scikar
Nov 20, 2005

5? Seriously?

Vlex posted:

Stella Creasy (Hella Easy) is my MP, I have half a mind to get in touch regarding recent affairs and her place in them. Do MPs actually read correspondence from their constituents? I imagine letters are more likely to be read than e-mails?

edit: Handwritingchat: I have colleagues who work with handwritten Early Modern (Renaissance-Industrial Revolution) texts, everything from private letters to rock engravings, i.e. definitely not nice manuscripts with proper orthography etc.. I swear they develop some kind of mutant power or sixth sense, because not only can they read 400 year old bird footprints on vellum, they recognise the hands of individuals.

Stella Creasy is pretty clued up and active on twitter, I would have thought an email would be fine.

Flatscan
Mar 27, 2001

Outlaw Journalist

My MP just sends out a generic form letter that doesn't actually address whatever it was you wrote to him about. Funnily enough, he's a Tory.

Mugsbaloney
Jul 11, 2012

We prefer your extinction to the loss of our job

Zephro posted:

Austerity-chat: Also the government can borrow money at rates unheard of since all the Bibles were written in Latin* and spending what is basically free money on things like roads, broadband etc is a really good idea since those things will generate returns in the future

*I'm not even joking - interest rates have never been this low in the whole ~400 year history of central banking

Seems like as good a definition of magic money tree as I've heard!

Firos
Apr 30, 2007

Staying abreast of the latest developments in jam communism



MikeCrotch posted:

I mean its patently obvious that he's a Tory oval office at this point, but that won't stop him from stirring poo poo based on "anonymous senior Labour sources." Maybe Danzcuck is going to steal his job in that regard?



I keep mixing up Dan Hodges and Simon Danzcuck. You see one neoliberal shitehawk you've seen them all.

Edit: Aw man I still don't have a gang tag :smith:

Firos fucked around with this message at 11:50 on Jun 12, 2017

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
Wow lots of calls to disenfranchise the young by salty Tories in today's metro lol. I love it when it's the right having the meltdowns for once.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Vlex posted:

edit: Handwritingchat: I have colleagues who work with handwritten Early Modern (Renaissance-Industrial Revolution) texts, everything from private letters to rock engravings, i.e. definitely not nice manuscripts with proper orthography etc.. I swear they develop some kind of mutant power or sixth sense, because not only can they read 400 year old bird footprints on vellum, they recognise the hands of individuals.
Well this is what I do for a living, and it's not that unbelievable. This year I've catalogued 11,000 individual bits of correspondence received by one individual between 1860 and 1905. The same people tend to write fairly often, penmanship can be very distinctive, and I guarantee you'll recognise anybody's handwriting after reading a hundred of their letters. At this point if there's a letter from a regular correspondent I don't need to look to the signature before putting their name in the database, just a glance at the first couple of lines and I know who it is most of the time.

Doccykins
Feb 21, 2006

Mr. Flunchy posted:

Is Theresa May currently getting a megabollocking by the 1922 Committee?

When do we hear what's going on with that?

The committee meets at 5pm

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

feedmegin posted:

I'm quite fond of it too (if you put alcohol in it and call it cider)
It's not cider if you add feedstock alcohol to fizzy apple juice, that's white ace. Which is technically allowed to call itself cider, but isn't.

Another Person posted:

i cant believe schools still teach this poo poo
Unless we can decipher the ramblings of the old we are prone to repeating them.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)
Being able to read it is frankly far more astonishing than recognising it. I struggle enough reading loving probate records and rates books, and those are set out nicely.

Vlex
Aug 4, 2006
I'd rather be a climbing ape than a big titty angel.



communism bitch posted:

Well this is what I do for a living, and it's not that unbelievable. This year I've catalogued 11,000 individual bits of correspondence received by one individual between 1860 and 1905. The same people tend to write fairly often, penmanship can be very distinctive, and I guarantee you'll recognise anybody's handwriting after reading a hundred of their letters. At this point if there's a letter from a regular correspondent I don't need to look to the signature before putting their name in the database, just a glance at the first couple of lines and I know who it is most of the time.

I'm a prehistorian, as far as I am concerned poo poo started going downhill fast right around the founding of Sumer.

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DeadButDelicious
Oct 11, 2012

Leave me to do my dark bidding on the internet!
They Work For You is a terrific database, but is there anything like it for party candidates? I'm keen to get involved with the party in my local constituency but beyond the leaflet and website I can't find much information on my local Labour candidate, Nik Johnson.

I suppose I could just ask him but I'm caught a terrible case of Britishness and would rather go in a little prepared & educated.

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