Nonsense posted:

Please don’t give me the old “we were unlucky, just a few votes short” or “the machine was weak we didn’t get our message across” routines please. It was precisely because we DID get the message across that we find ourselves in this predicament.

My son has been left-wing since being at uni and I learnt to dread picking him up from work during the campaign. There always seemed to be a positive message from Labour, hope to an end to austerity, goodies for all, especially the hard done to young. When I tried to counter argue about fantasy politics and asking where Corbyn’s magic money tree was, the answer “our manifesto is fully costed. Your’s isn’t!” shut me down there. Corbyn got out and met real voters. TM seemed to hide from them. Did I get any help from hearing what the great and the good on our side were saying? Well apart from “strong and stable”, “coalition of chaos” and anti-Corbyn waffle from Bojo I heard about 10 minutes from “spreadsheet Phil” telling us to wait for the manifesto. What was in our manifesto to offer hope and counter my son’s arguments? Fox hunting and the dementia tax actually strengthened his hand. To use Sir Geoffery Howe’s cricketing metaphor, I was going out to face Dennis Lillee in his pomp only to find that not only had the team captain broken the bats but had destroyed my pads, gloves, helmet and box, too.

By polling day I was completely punch drunk. The only reason I voted Conservative at the end was sheer bloody mindedness after my son had systematically destroyed any logical arguments I had for supporting a regime that had royally screwed him over and was now coming for me as I approach my dotage. I found myself actually wishing for a Corbyn victory, just to see if the socialist paradise I dreamed of as a teenager was really possible and if not, safe and smug in the knowledge that I could safely shuffle off this mortal coil leaving my son to pay for clearing up the mess!

Can we please find someone who actually knows what they’re doing to come up with policies that make Joe Public’s life a little easier and someone who descends their Olympian heights to engages with us and put them forward? Otherwise we face another 1997 style drubbing nest time.

exmarx posted:

https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/10719467588

Mainwaring posted:

Technically pm can be in the house of lords so you could drop an emergency life peerage on them I suppose. Realistically any party leader losing their seat is unlikely to have just won an election.

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Japanese cartoonist Masaaki Sato has May warning Japan’s prime minister, Shinzo Abe, not to delay an election too long.

https://twitter.com/tokyoseijibu/status/873347257923387392

Jose posted:

https://twitter.com/Messina2012/status/869928746974949378

quote:

In various roles he also advised the Conservative Party[5][6] in their unsuccessful 2017 campaign, the Prime Minister of Italy in the unsuccessful 2016 constitutional referendum and Hillary Clinton in her unsuccessful 2016 bid for the United States Presidency.

Kurtofan posted:

i'm starting to think obama only got reelected through sheer luck


edit: lol

Nonsense posted:

babypolis posted:

what happens if the prime minister loses their seat

Jose posted:

https://twitter.com/Messina2012/status/869928746974949378

CottonWolf posted:

E:
https://twitter.com/nicholaswatt/status/874234545150754816
Britain, everyone!

brugroffil posted:

dude hasn't posted since this tweet lmao

https://twitter.com/DigitalLeft/status/873005641882796032

Kurtofan posted:

i'm starting to think obama only got reelected through sheer luck

Fallen Hamprince posted:

"my countries polices"?

Concerned Citizen posted:

axelrod was the guy who actually ran both obama campaigns, so

Mainwaring posted:

It's almost as if political campaigning in the US and UK are completely different beasts and trying to transfer strategies and skills across will often flop (didn't Nate Silver try and completely fail to do predictions for the 2010 election and give up on ever doing it again?)

Terror Sweat posted:

its actually really easy, just promise to implement socialism

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

a snap by-election in a safe constituency, I think

something like that happened to A.J. Balfour in 1906, although he was by that point leader of the opposition

Peel posted:

whenever people talk after an election about how everything about the (perceived) winners did was good and everything the (percieved) losers did was bad i remind myself that if comey hadn't sent that letter last year clinton would likely have won and there'd be a bunch of articles about how amazing her 31st century hypercampaign was and how it left trump's bunglers no chance despite his 'surprisingly good' performance

now a crinkly old social democrat and a fresh-faced centrist dipshit did well in elections within a week of each other so nobody will know what to think until another election result comes along to demonstrate the secret truth of political campaigns. this time it will be *rolls dice* making sure your slogans alliterate



this is unfair to people who think seriously about elections, but i'm not convinced it's unfair to campaign professionals

quote:

“Personalities aren’t that important,” Mr Axelrod said. “My operant theory about politics is you’re never as smart as you look when you’re winning and you’re never as dumb as you look when you’re losing.”

UHD posted:

tbf lord buckethead is rad as hell

Shear Modulus posted:

can lord buckethead run on the labour ticket in the next election after the tory/dup govt collapses

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Can't believe the show on a channel owned by Time Warner doesn't want to talk too much about a successful socialist.

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