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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Vlex
Aug 4, 2006
I'd rather be a climbing ape than a big titty angel.



I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Japanese cartoonist Masaaki Sato has May warning Japan’s prime minister, Shinzo Abe, not to delay an election too long.

https://twitter.com/tokyoseijibu/status/873347257923387392

Napping Donald, Hidden Juche

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blunt
Jul 7, 2005

OwlFancier posted:

I'm not sure that the queen works like capture the flag and the first party to get a speech and carry it to the queen wins the government.

Yeah I don't mean him calling a vote, but putting out one to the press, like a manifesto of things labour believe they could pass with cross party support, to fill the news void while Theresa faffs around and build support.

Intrinsic Field Marshal
Sep 6, 2014

by SA Support Robot

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Kirchick#2016_presidential_elections

Well Surprise Surprise that the Hillary Clinton Supporter is complaining about too much democracy!

too intelligent for democracy

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


blunt posted:

Yeah I don't mean him calling a vote, but putting out one to the press, like a manifesto of things labour believe they could pass with cross party support, to fill the news void while Theresa faffs around and build support.

Tbh that actually sounds like a fairly solid plan. "Theresa May has called for strong and stable government; there is one party in the UK that is ready and able to govern".

e:

Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Kirchick#2016_presidential_elections

Well Surprise Surprise that the Hillary Clinton Supporter is complaining about too much democracy!

too intelligent for democracy
lol I just read the article. The enormous turnouts from the last 2 UK-wide elections prove that too many elections damage turnout! Democracy is bad for democracy!

Borrovan fucked around with this message at 12:41 on Jun 12, 2017

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

Dr Snofeld posted:

Is that a lot of money for North London? Also, is that not a wonderful name for a cat?

Just made me realize I have had the completely wrong impression him, had imagined him as a life long bachelor without kids.

escapegoat
Aug 18, 2013

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Japanese cartoonist Masaaki Sato has May warning Japan’s prime minister, Shinzo Abe, not to delay an election too long.

https://twitter.com/tokyoseijibu/status/873347257923387392

Not pictured: Jeremy Corbyn with tentacles.

Blinks77
Feb 15, 2012

His Divine Shadow posted:

Just made me realize I have had the completely wrong impression him, had imagined him as a life long bachelor without kids.

He's been very insistent about keeping his family out of politics.

Firos
Apr 30, 2007

Staying abreast of the latest developments in jam communism



What the hell is going on with Dan Hodges eye.

Edit: Oh he lost his eye. Huh ok.

Firos fucked around with this message at 12:50 on Jun 12, 2017

Halisnacks
Jul 18, 2009
For those with better knowledge of political history, when was the last time the Tories appeared this wounded as a party?
The reasonable sounding answer would be when their last PM resigned in disgrace over a hubris-induced unnecessary election that brought the country to its knees, but they actually carried on really effectively after that.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

I'm not sure that the queen works like capture the flag and the first party to get a speech and carry it to the queen wins the government.
Corbyn powers up Constitution Hill on his bike, speech in hand, but halfway up is passed by Tim Farron in a Mini Cooper and Arlene Foster on horseback. Nicola Sturgeon enters the fray in a yellow Argyll Turbo. It's neck and neck between Sturgeon and Farron, but Dick Faragely and his dog Nuttley have oiled the track. Disaster. Who will deliver a speech now? Suddenly, a balloon shaped like a giant rubber duck descends from the clouds above the palace.

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

Firos posted:

What the hell is going on with Dan Hodges eye.

It can see into the reality where May won, he is a man trapped between two worlds. It's why he's always wrong.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

big scary monsters posted:

Turns out it's common in a lot of European countries and I also found it really weird. I didn't even tell the government when I left the UK, or when I moved back. Just got on a plane.

I've always found it really bizarre when I leave Australia and the customs declaration card asks me how long I plan to be away from Australia from. Uh, none of your loving business?

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

ThomasPaine posted:

Wow lots of calls to disenfranchise the young by salty Tories in today's metro lol. I love it when it's the right having the meltdowns for once.

If they won't vote for us they shouldn't have the right to vote at all! :byodood:

The born to rule mentality is really quite something when the Old Ways start to crumble.

^ I think you'll find where you go, how long for and what you ate for dinner last night is exactly Big Brother's business. Now wear your jumpsuit and remember to attend the daily hate.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Firos posted:

What the hell is going on with Dan Hodges eye.

Edit: Oh he lost his eye. Huh ok.

How apt given he's a bit of a one-eyed monster.

And by a bit I mean a lot.

Murderion
Oct 4, 2009

2019. New York is in ruins. The global economy is spiralling. Cyborgs rule over poisoned wastes.

The only time that's left is
FUN TIME

Halisnacks posted:

For those with better knowledge of political history, when was the last time the Tories appeared this wounded as a party?
The reasonable sounding answer would be when their last PM resigned in disgrace over a hubris-induced unnecessary election that brought the country to its knees, but they actually carried on really effectively after that.

The Blair years, when they had a string of uninspiring non-entities running the show (most of whom got posts in Cameron's cabinet, lol).

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
what a cuck lol

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Dr Snofeld posted:

Is that a lot of money for North London? Also, is that not a wonderful name for a cat?

A million quid isn't much for a house in central London. Don't worry, no fears that our Corbs is some banana republic kleptocrat just yet!

Spuckuk
Aug 11, 2009

Being a bastard works



Thanks Ants posted:

What if...drunken Pissflaps never went away?

Maybe this timeline is salvagable after all

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.

Halisnacks posted:

For those with better knowledge of political history, when was the last time the Tories appeared this wounded as a party?
The reasonable sounding answer would be when their last PM resigned in disgrace over a hubris-induced unnecessary election that brought the country to its knees, but they actually carried on really effectively after that.

John Major around 1993-1995 - despite being able to comfortably see off individual Tory challengers he could not command the support to purge dissenters from his cabinet, thus perpetuating a cycle of strategic leaks and weekly scandal

which is where May finds herself now - despite the absence of an alternative, where even the papers can't pin down what they want, her premiership is now going to be an endless barrel of headline fodder

things stabilised after he staged his leadership election stunt but by then it was too late to salvage things

ronya fucked around with this message at 13:07 on Jun 12, 2017

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Halisnacks posted:

For those with better knowledge of political history, when was the last time the Tories appeared this wounded as a party?
The reasonable sounding answer would be when their last PM resigned in disgrace over a hubris-induced unnecessary election that brought the country to its knees, but they actually carried on really effectively after that.

2001 election, probably. 'Oh poo poo, Blair wasn't a fluke'

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

feedmegin posted:

A million quid isn't much for a house in central London. Don't worry, no fears that our Corbs is some banana republic kleptocrat just yet!

depending on how long ago he got it, it could have been bought at a small fraction of the current cost

Spuckuk
Aug 11, 2009

Being a bastard works



Guavanaut posted:

Unlike the deal, this one might be true. :anarchists:

There's certainly been cases of countries that have improved with no central government when their previous government was a gaggle of fash murderers or colonialist looters.

Anarchist Aragon did alright

dispatch_async
Nov 28, 2014

Imagine having the time to have played through 20 generations of one family in The Sims 2. Imagine making the original two members of that family Neil Buchanan and Cat Deeley. Imagine complaining to Maxis there was no technological progression. You've successfully imagined my life
https://twitter.com/ElectCalculus/status/874225962287857664

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich
An interesting tidbit here, showing how our relatively unimportant and worthless Taoiseach managed to completely outmanoeuvre May on NI issues with the EU.

https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2017/0612/881978-brexit-unity-clause/


Turns out Brexit is actually bad for UK negotiating power?????

Spuckuk
Aug 11, 2009

Being a bastard works



WeAreTheRomans posted:

An interesting tidbit here, showing how our relatively unimportant and worthless Taoiseach managed to completely outmanoeuvre May on NI issues with the EU.

https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2017/0612/881978-brexit-unity-clause/


Turns out Brexit is actually bad for UK negotiating power?????

You know you really hosed up when Enda Kenny of all people is stunting on you.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Guavanaut posted:

Corbyn powers up Constitution Hill on his bike, speech in hand, but halfway up is passed by Tim Farron in a Mini Cooper and Arlene Foster on horseback. Nicola Sturgeon enters the fray in a yellow Argyll Turbo. It's neck and neck between Sturgeon and Farron, but Dick Faragely and his dog Nuttley have oiled the track. Disaster. Who will deliver a speech now? Suddenly, a balloon shaped like a giant rubber duck descends from the clouds above the palace.

I feel like Arlene Foster would probably be the anthill mob in this analogy but otherwise it makes about as much sense as our government normally does.

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Spuckuk posted:

You know you really hosed up when Enda Kenny of all people is stunting on you.

Yes.

Although apparent Enda (RIP) is an incredible mimic and is popular in Brussels for doing spot-on impersonations of leaders. Shame he did such a half-hearted job at impersonating one himself

MrNemo
Aug 26, 2010

"I just love beeting off"

Murderion posted:

The Blair years, when they had a string of uninspiring non-entities running the show (most of whom got posts in Cameron's cabinet, lol).

I'd say basically shortly after the departure of Thatcher. She basically went down over the pro/anti-EU civil war (and being a horrible oval office it was impossible to work with) and Major was left with a party ready to rip itself apart over Europe. The big difference of course was that that was the party dealing with the fall out of having had a strong leader who shaped party policy and structure gotten rid with no successor equal to that role. This time round we had a competent and presentable leader who turbofucked himself replaced with someone who seemed to have the ideological convictions and competence but lacked any real political acumen and turbofucked herself.

Tories have largely done well presenting themselves as the competent and tough party, whether they've been economically liberal or paternalistic. This quick succession of total disasters has done a huge amount of damage to that image and I don't think there's any strong candidates who are untainted by association with either of them. The pro Europe free marketers were all in with Cameron and the Eurosceptic paternalists were in with May (distinction here being mostly rhetoric since they all seem to favour low taxes and austerity). Corbyn, for all his faults in being able to manage the party, has withstood 2 leadership challenges and done very well in the election. His public image is shifting to that of someone who is part of the political landscape rather than a far left candidate who is going to be booted by his own MPs any day now. I don't think the Tories have every been in quite this much a shambles with both sides looking very much equally responsible.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013


Bloody hell how did it go from Labour being wrecked by those changes to the tories losing 3 more seats?

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Spuckuk posted:

Anarchist Aragon did alright

Technically anarchist societies still have a government they just don't have a state. The opposite of a Britain or Belgium. :eng101:

Brigadier Sockface
Apr 1, 2007
https://twitter.com/nicholaswatt/status/874234545150754816

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

OwlFancier posted:

Bloody hell how did it go from Labour being wrecked by those changes to the tories losing 3 more seats?

Suddenly young people are voting, I guess.

MrNemo
Aug 26, 2010

"I just love beeting off"


Wow, the Lib Dems are looking to have their MPs more than almost halved by those new boundaries. #libdemfightback

MrNemo fucked around with this message at 13:19 on Jun 12, 2017

biglads
Feb 21, 2007

I could've gone to Blatherwycke




If this is true then what price boundary reform disappearing from view? I don't think the DUP will be agitating for the reform if the result is to give SF more MPs than them (even though SF don't take their seats).

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

MrNemo posted:

Wow, the Lib Dems are looking to have their MPs more than halved by those new boundaries. #libdemfightback
um 5 12fths is not over 50%

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe

I thought this was a joke, but it's actually real.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-22449210

Well, not actual goat skin, but some sort of super special paper where the ink takes actual days to dry. :wtf:

quote:

Just when you thought Goatgate had been cleared up, along comes the official line: It is not on vellum anymore. It is on "goatskin parchment paper" but confusingly it's not actually goatskin. However it is very high quality, thick paper, which is why the ink takes several days to dry, and it then needs to be bound into a booklet, before being sent on to Her Majesty for signing.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Wouldn't this actually be bad for Labour? It removes 29 seats from any likely 'Progressive Pact' and only 23 from a tory-dup coalition?

MrNemo
Aug 26, 2010

"I just love beeting off"

jBrereton posted:

um 5 12fths is not over 50%

I'll have you know I'm working in good old Imperial constituency units, not these new fangled EU mandated metric things.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Bardeh posted:

I thought this was a joke, but it's actually real.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-22449210

Well, not actual goat skin, but some sort of super special paper where the ink takes actual days to dry. :wtf:

I was about to say this is loving stupid, but actually, anything which pushes pople towards realising that parliament is a forum for legislative debate and you don't immediately need a Big Strong Leader as though we're on the Mongol khanates is probably a good thing

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communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Bardeh posted:

I thought this was a joke, but it's actually real.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-22449210

Well, not actual goat skin, but some sort of super special paper where the ink takes actual days to dry. :wtf:

I dunno if it's clear or obvious to everybody, but the reason animal skin parchments survived so long as a writing medium is that they are super loving tough.
Decent (not best) quality archival paper (which the govt is talking about migrating to) stored in melinex, inside acid-free boxes, in climate controlled storage has an estimated shelf life of about 500 years. Meanwhile you can leave a roll of parchment in a ratty, damp cellar (most of them have been stored in exactly this way) for 800 years and they'll survive remarkably well - maybe some mould or brittleness, etc, but they rarely just fall to pieces.

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