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Palpek posted:"Ryder, months ago I lost my skin moisturizer stash somewhere in the jungle. Please retrieve all 5 bottles that I far-sightedly marked with GPS trackers." Turns out they're just reskinning Star Wars Galaxies!
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Skippy McPants posted:If the sources are accurate I'm not sure I'd put much of the blame on Walters. The pre-production sounds like it was an utter gently caress-fest of bad ideas and poor planning. Spending three years on trying to procedurally generate planets in a Bioware storygame was pretty dumb, yeah.
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Even the initial rescope of 30 hand crafted worlds was helariouly naive.
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if chris roberts can do 100 for star citizen surely biowear can do 30
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lalaland posted:if chris roberts can do 100 for star citizen surely biowear can do 30
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exquisite tea posted:Doing that would break their streak of co-opting the hottest new gaming trend from three years ago. quote:“We have data that shows there are a lot of people that enjoy playing RPGs although they won’t necessarily call them RPGs. They’ll play Fallout, Assassin’s Creed and even Call Of Duty, which have these progression elements – you’re putting points into things – but they don’t necessarily associate that as an RPG. So we think that if we expand that out we’ll attract a much bigger audience.”  back when EA was on bioware's case for the thread's goldenboy ME2 being regarded the highest rated game of all time, like as good as a narratively driven sci-fi RPG could be anyway, but still not putting out the mega-sales numbers of bigger franchises even tho if it did really well on its own merits, and then ultimately shifting the goalpost's on bioware's other IPsi get that EA is a business and all but i wonder how much they managed their expectations when they acquired a studio that puts a lot of effort into catering to a specific audience, a small but stable group, with a niche style of games that other studios don't really do too much of anymore when they started chasing the dragon of the latest industry trends and buzz words Skippy McPants posted:If the sources are accurate I'm not sure I'd put much of the blame on Walters. The pre-production sounds like it was an utter gently caress-fest of bad ideas and poor planning. everyone gets s a healthy serving of blame this time around: the youtuber that repeated the kotaku article about andromeda's development woes did also make a point of mentioning that metal gear and final fantasy both had entries that went through similar development hell for technological/directorial vision reasons but like sensible companies they just pushed back release until a quality product could be assembled instead of sharting out a hastily cobbled shitshow, like even at the 11th hour disaster could have been avoided by someone swallowing their pride and saying it's obviously not ready yet ultimately it took a comedy of errors and poor decisions by a variety of people to get to where andromeda was in March 2017
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Really we should of known it was over for Bioware around the time EA renamed some totally random studio to Bioware Victory in an attempt to generate hype for a mediocre game. EA has no actual respect for the creative process of games and only values Bioware as a brand name.
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Jun 12, 2017 17:13
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Internet Kraken posted:Really we should of known it was over for Bioware around the time EA renamed some totally random studio to Bioware Victory in an attempt to generate hyper for a mediocre game. EA has no actual respect for the creative process of games and only values Bioware as a brand name. EA's entire business model.docx
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DancingShade posted:This is the NPC interaction I'm predicting: change my name to Higher Chance Of A Legendary Item
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Chill Nazi Frog posted:change my name to Higher Chance Of A Legendary Item I love how both Assassin's Creed Origins and Anthem both went for showing off their loot systems with "Look guys, a ~Legendary Drop!~"
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I like how in the Anthem trailer when they're opening a lootbox the lady playing accidentally gives the game away when she disgustedly says "UGH I hope I get something GOOD this time" a bigger indictment of loot shooters has not yet been written
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Holy poo poo, XCOM made a Mass Effect! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3bENBYSucQ
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Thundercracker posted:The new Wolfenstein had such good writing.I mean, the plot wasn't anything amazing but the writing really elevated it. Really put you in the head of Blaskovitz and had an almost Tarantinoesque tension in alot of scenes. I bought Wolfenstein on the Steam summer sale expecting a generic shoot nazis game, and it turned out to be one of my favourite games.
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Poldarn posted:I bought Wolfenstein on the Steam summer sale expecting a generic shoot nazis game, and it turned out to be one of my favourite games. Did you try The Old Blood? It's not as good as New Order, but it is some great old school gun maze FPS gameplay.
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Drifter posted:Holy poo poo, XCOM made a Mass Effect! i am excite
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Generic American posted:I know a lot of people are attached to their Shepard, but personally, I would be completely fine with them just rewinding the series to Mass Effect 1 and saying "Reapers never happened, the galaxy is intact, here are some completely new stories". This is getting real close to the Alien Franchise. 1 got us all onboard. 2 was a great and fun ride. 3 was a little weird and not as good but hey I kind dug it. Uh poo poo wtf is happening with 4? Now we're talking reboot and re-imaginings? Let's just make a new IP that focuses on the things we like...oh wait.
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Are there any space games that don't include comic booky magic? I just want to be in space, no need to invent biotics or other magical voodoo. I'd give my left nut for a straight-up astronaut game set in the future.
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a primate posted:Are there any space games that don't include comic booky magic? I just want to be in space, no need to invent biotics or other magical voodoo. I'd give my left nut for a straight-up astronaut game set in the future. space engineers?
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Admiral Ray posted:space engineers? Looks like minecraft in space I guess? I might take a look but it would be more fun to be an actual character. Not expecting anyone to come up with a real answer to my first world problems, just generally Qq'ing. E: I mean that xcom thing is holding an orb a la Magic the Gathering and looks like it's from an 80s metal band. Whatever happened to space suits??? a primate fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Jun 12, 2017 |
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Jun 12, 2017 19:36
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a primate posted:E: I mean that xcom thing is holding an orb a la Magic the Gathering and looks like it's from an 80s metal band. Whatever happened to space suits??? Bro, if you're FROM space then logically it means you probably are used to living there, too. Duh. That's just how evolution works, Jesus.
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a primate posted:Are there any space games that don't include comic booky magic? I just want to be in space, no need to invent biotics or other magical voodoo. I'd give my left nut for a straight-up astronaut game set in the future. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv6RbEOlqRo
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Palpek posted:But seriously how the mighty have fallen, Bioware's A team is making a Destiny clone lol. I guess TOR was the gateway drug. If somebody had hopes for another Bioware RPG (much less a Mass Effect RPG) then it's time to put them to sleep. It just seems like Bioware isn't interested in making the games that attracted to me to them as a studio in the first place. I guess we'll see what DA4 has to offer before I give up completely. As of now, which developers out there to fill in that space. CDR obviously but who else?
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Guerrilla really outdid themselves with Horizon Zero Dawn and it's my favorite game of 2017 so far, but there aren't really many consequential choices that you're used to seeing in a Mass Effect game. If you had told me a couple years ago that the makers of Killzone would put out a legitimate GOTY RPG and Bioware would be making Destiny clones, I wouldn't believe it.
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Guerrilla making HZD is especially strange because their wheelhouse is in methodical slow pace FPS gameplay. Moving to a story based open world RPG seems so odd. Now the stories in the Killzone games aren't bad, but they're really straightforward and generic as opposed to their genuinely interesting backstory that is never brought up in the games. Making the leap to an new franchise and having a well fleshed out and told tale is quite an accomplishment for them
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This is the kind of poo poo that happened to the old studios. Their publishers told them the poo poo they made and liked making weren't good enough anymore and they needed to make new poo poo. Then, 20 years later the people behind those studios got into Kickstarter and other fund sites and went back to make the stuff they used to like. I can't wait for the developers of the old Bioware to get into kickstarter so we can get the spiritual successor to Mass Effect. I'm not being ironic either.
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HZD feels like somebody's life-long pet project. The vision of the world and the story don't seem like something somebody was paid to write a screenplay for but something that somebody was writing down and building for years patiently waiting for a budget big enough to pull it off. The entire concept is just so fully realized. I don't know if that's the actual case but that's what the game feels like to me and that's the big difference between it and the Killzone series. Those guys gathered all the game developing experience in the world and had the potential to pull off a game like HZD but needed a project that they themselves fell in love with to succeed.
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Palpek posted:HZD feels like somebody's life-long pet project. The vision of the world and the story don't seem like something somebody was paid to write a screenplay for but something that somebody was writing down and building for years patiently waiting for a budget big enough to pull it off. The entire concept is just so fully realized. I don't know if that's the actual case but that's what the game feels like to me and that's the big difference between it and the Killzone series. Those guys gathered all the game developing experience in the world and had the potential to pull off a game like HZD but needed a project that they themselves fell in love with to succeed. There's a Dutch making-of documentary about HZD and it very much was managing director Hermen Hulst's passion project, which he privately worked on for years before GG began pitching new IPs to Sony. Not too unlike how Casey Hudson conceived of Mass Effect while cranking out KOTOR games for LucasArts.
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Grabbed this during the 50% discount on Origin and because I hate myself and quite like Mass Effect. So far it's a bit too DA:I-in-space for me so I'm ignoring all the bear asses collection quests and it's a fine enough game I guess. But I must be doing something wrong because I can't seem to craft much things except some minor weapon upgrades. It's confusing because I've got a poo poo ton of blueprints but no means of crafting the items because I always miss lots of minerals. I'm only level 9, put some mining drones on Eos and scanned the system. Am I supposed to craft the armor (and the Not Mako) upgrades later?
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Furism posted:Grabbed this during the 50% discount on Origin and because I hate myself and quite like Mass Effect. So far it's a bit too DA:I-in-space for me so I'm ignoring all the bear asses collection quests and it's a fine enough game I guess. Every 10 levels you can craft the next version of whatever you want to use. Yes, they helpfully didn't put a lot of essential crafting material nodes on Eos so you can't craft poo poo to start with. For the "full experience" try doing every single side quest and see how many you finish before getting utterly sick of them.
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a primate posted:Are there any space games that don't include comic booky magic? I just want to be in space, no need to invent biotics or other magical voodoo. I'd give my left nut for a straight-up astronaut game set in the future. The non-alien world of Prey (2017) is pretty understated like that. The astronaut part included.
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You can't avoid the magical alien powers in that game though even if you're only fighting against them.
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Spikeguy posted:It just seems like Bioware isn't interested in making the games that attracted to me to them as a studio in the first place. I guess we'll see what DA4 has to offer before I give up completely. As of now, which developers out there to fill in that space. CDR obviously but who else? Devolver
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DoctorGonzo posted:Devolver I like devolver but what rpg do they have besides that neat Diablo - like that isn't out?
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https://www.spiders-games.com/games/the-technomancer
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When Spiders is your only hope, we are truly doomed 
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Arcsquad12 posted:Did you try The Old Blood? It's not as good as New Order, but it is some great old school gun maze FPS gameplay. Yeah, I knew it wouldn't as *as* good but it was still a great pulpy horror shooter.
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Rinkles posted:The non-alien world of Prey (2017) is pretty understated like that. The astronaut part included. Prey did seem like a good game. I watched someone on YouTube play a bunch of it since I wasn't going to buy it myself. The last game to really scratch this itch was Adrift. It was simple but atmospheric enough to keep me playing. A bit monotonous though. I liked having a break from shooting things.
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a primate posted:Prey did seem like a good game. I watched someone on YouTube play a bunch of it since I wasn't going to buy it myself. Prey was hilarious because after a ton of hours, you finally reach your goal and defeat the boss... ...only to find out it's the halfway point and the real boss is at the very top of the tower.
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