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Franchescanado posted:I think dwarf stabbing the lady also counts for one of the most violent things Lynch has put on film, the shots are close and the sound design is brutal. The kid dying was tragic. Yeah, I just got there, jesus christ  Pretty brutal episode. Maybe I'm getting softer with age, but I welcome more Dougie.
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Does anyone else get shades of Albert's speech from Janey's scene in the park? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf0ZvY2usbY It has that fiery "you might think I'm an rear end in a top hat but I'm busting my rear end off trying to live according to my virtues" quality that instantly humanizes them. Albert plays bad cop to Cooper most of the time, and Janey actually has kind of a similar role as Dougie's exasperated partner who has trouble getting on her son's good side. What surprises me is up until that point, I assumed Janey was some sort of manufactured, less-than-human being who was just there to facilitate the weird role Dougie plays in trapping Cooper. But the scene in the park makes her definitely seem like as full a person as anyone.
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The hit and run was terrible, but the kid having tyre tracks all the way up his back was also kinda funny. Ike "the spike" rules
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The amount of time the hit and run lasted, especially at the end cutting to awful extras doing extended over the top reactions like we were suddenly dropped into Birdemic actually got me laughing.Rupert Buttermilk posted:Yeah, I just got there, jesus christ There's been some extremely intense violence towards women in the revival. Not an outright criticism, it's just noticeable.
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Just realized DougCoop is acting in a pretty similar way as the hotel waiter did in S2E1 after Coop had been shot. Huge problems communicating, mimicks other people's gestures, generally very confused. Perhaps the waiter had recently returned from a stay in the Lodge as well.
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Man, so many amazing scenes. I of course loved the poo poo out of Naomi Watts telling off the bookies - that's the sort of rant that I could also actually make if pushed hard enough, I think, but I'm sorta crazy  There were so many little details and moments I loved, though. Cooper offering Sonny Jim a chip, even though it was (properly) rejected. What was amusing was how the adult/child role was sort of reversed, there. I thought Cooper's scene in the office with his boss was great. I sort of agree with the AV Club reviewer, who saw Cooper's blunt "Make sense of it" statement to be almost like Lynch throwing out a challenge to us, personally, the viewers. Lynch is like Cooper, and this 18-hour-long (or whatever) film is what we're closely looking at and attempting to decipher. And it's notable that when the boss finally "gets it", he doesn't articulate just what Dougie has communicated via his "childish scrawls". I mean, we assume it to be insurance fraud and what he drawing connections somehow with the "ladders" and "stairs" and the lines and "asterisks". Also, it all truly makes me wonder what Dougie was like before all of this. Janey-E seemed to tell the police that Dougie was "very disoriented" on his best days, but I don't know if she was just covering for him or if the Manufactured Dougie was essentially very lackadaisical and, uh, air-headed more or less. He seemed normal in the very few scenes we saw - I mean, he wasn't a verbal parrot like Cooper who has spoken like a line and a half that wasn't an echo of what someone else said, or part of what they said. I have to say though, part of me still finds it very sad and difficult to watch the Dougie scenes, and they comprised almost all of this episode. But it was VERY good, nevertheless. Really impressed me in the end, and it felt like it was over as son
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Zat posted:Just realized DougCoop is acting in a pretty similar way as the hotel waiter did in S2E1 after Coop had been shot. Huge problems communicating, mimicks other people's gestures, generally very confused. That was the giant's dopple The giant's new dopple is Sonny Jim I think because his old dopple gave the thumbs up to the wrong person and got murdered
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If you recall the boss man asked dougie to keep his findings quiet. So his symbolic scribbles which the boss was able to decipher is a perfect way to keep the information they both know confidential, hence why the boss may have seemed so pleased. Also, Dougie is progressing just fine. He went from completely newborn to busting insurance fraud, all inspired by his time spent with the cowboy sheriff statue. Cephas posted:Does anyone else get shades of Albert's speech from Janey's scene in the park? G-III fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Jun 12, 2017 |
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Jun 12, 2017 17:13
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It'll be funny when we find out Dougie has been in on it the whole time and is now incriminating himself.
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Transistor Rhythm posted:By "some OST guy" you mean Johnny Jewel, who's just a little bit famous. Didn't mean to be dismissive. I've been doodling on guitar for a while around that little piece on repeat.
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weekly font posted:The amount of time the hit and run lasted, especially at the end cutting to awful extras doing extended over the top reactions like we were suddenly dropped into Birdemic actually got me laughing. Really couldn't disagree more. The way this shot happens in any other show is the kid gets hit, we get a close up on the mom wailing for 3 seconds, and then cut to another scene. But that's not how it happens in real life. IRL, the scene continues and people do stand around and no one knows what to do and it's the most surreal poo poo ever. Having been involved in a couple similar incidents, I feel like this was the best recreation I've seen of how it actually feels to be in that scenario. It *doesn't* end. It just keeps going, and your mind struggles trying to come to grips with how something so horrible could be real and how it has the audacity to relentlessly continue being real.
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the extras were definitely really bad though. kinda took ma out of it a bit until harry dean stanton saved it with his face
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I don't know, I felt like I was kind of doing the same thing the rest of them were doing. Christ, I hope I never have to experience anything like that in real life, even remotely.
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regulargonzalez posted:Really couldn't disagree more. The way this shot happens in any other show is the kid gets hit, we get a close up on the mom wailing for 3 seconds, and then cut to another scene. But that's not how it happens in real life. IRL, the scene continues and people do stand around and no one knows what to do and it's the most surreal poo poo ever. Having been involved in a couple similar incidents, I feel like this was the best recreation I've seen of how it actually feels to be in that scenario. It *doesn't* end. It just keeps going, and your mind struggles trying to come to grips with how something so horrible could be real and how it has the audacity to relentlessly continue being real.
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I thought it was a pretty good touch that the guy in the front of the line just sat there in his car while everyone else got out. He's the one who waved the kid out. I had a dog yank the leash from someone's hands and run into my car recently, and while I had no intention of leaving, I sat in my car for probably 20-25 seconds just thinking "fuuuuuuuck."
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Jun 12, 2017 17:35
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Is there a place online that is keeping this plot straight, I'm losing the multiple threads in my brain. I need a chart.
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I mean, yeah, they were bad, but it was clearly deliberate. He's not going for naturalism (or whatever passes for naturalism on television). He's making a purposeful choice. (See also: the wife from the previous episode.)
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There's a dude at my office that has a pretty good web of plots but this is the only pic I have I'll see if I can get a better pic later
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Lynch is in a pretty rare place where even if he gets a legitimately dogshit performance out of his actors, people will assume it was deliberate.
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Jun 12, 2017 17:46
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I think that Sheriff Truman's wife is good, don't understand the hate. I've known many women that sound and act like her. Her delivery sounds like a woman just grasping at anything to bitch about, as if she's just coming up with problems while she has an audience. It completely works for me.
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Franchescanado posted:I think that Sheriff Truman's wife is good, don't understand the hate. I've known many women that sound and act like her. Yeah, that's the impression I got as well, it's a really fun character trait that works nicely.
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Franchescanado posted:I think that Sheriff Truman's wife is good, don't understand the hate. I've known many women that sound and act like her. I almost married a woman like that!
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is there even one happy wife in twin peaks?
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Cephas posted:is there even one happy wife in twin peaks? Mrs. Briggs was frustrated with Bobby but otherwise content in season 1/2. Lucy's happy, even if she's afraid of cell phones.
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Also Donna's mom You know, besides the legs
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Franchescanado posted:I think that Sheriff Truman's wife is good, don't understand the hate. I've known many women that sound and act like her. she's a cartoon character of a nagging wife.
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Cephas posted:is there even one happy wife in twin peaks? While not a wife, I was and still am impressed with how strong and optimistic and caring Norma is. I always wanted it to work out between her and Ed. 
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Thom and the Heads posted:she's a cartoon character of a nagging wife. She comes across as someone with a cluster b personality disorder not a cartoon character
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Thom and the Heads posted:she's a cartoon character of a nagging wife. Someone's never worked retail.
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If you've ever interacted with or been in a relationship with someone with BPD or NPD or whatever that's a real rear end character.
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Thom and the Heads posted:she's a cartoon character of a nagging wife. There is a Vin Deisel dwarf that is stabbing people with an ice pick set to hip hop music while a drug lord finger-guns a magic dime into a whiny brat's mouth. You're going to call an overly nagging woman the cartoonish situation? Also, the fact that she's nagging from a a delusion, in an attempt to have any type of control in her life, due to losing her son to suicide works for me. Of course it's over the top, she's suffering from mental issues. Just another way Lynch has introduced a funny aspect of the world then quietly paints it in tragedy.
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Just noticed that the intersection where the kid gets hit is the same intersection where Laura and Leland are getting screamed at by the one armed man in FWWM.
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moist turtleneck posted:That was the giant's dopple The dopplegangers and the possessed people are not the same. The waiter was possessed/influenced by the Giant like Leland was possessed/influenced by BOB.
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Thom and the Heads posted:she's a cartoon character of a nagging wife. SHE WASN'T ALWAYS LIKE THAT, CHAD. HER SON KILLED HIMSELF, CHAD.
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Jun 12, 2017 18:51
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chad needs to die i liked hip hop music woman, neat having such a powerful audio queue
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"Read between the lines! What's lurking in that toaster waffle, those muffins, that frozen children's treat? POISON!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hh7tUfUrHQ&t=117s High fructose corn syrup
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