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iceaim posted:drat Super Lucky's Tale ditching VR really feels like a kick in the gut. They're not going to even bother adding it as an optional feature. Well, it wasn't very good so why is it a kick in the gut?
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FormatAmerica posted:They have a HUGE opportunity to fix the loving storyline. I in no way expect but seriously hope they re-touch it for some better endings.
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Please don't rebuy fullprice games for fullprice in VR. It's a lovely practice by Bethesda when that support should have been incorporated natively into the PC version. Just saw this at E3, Echo Arena looks to be free for Rifters: https://www.loneecho.com/
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Taintrunner posted:Please don't rebuy fullprice games for fullprice in VR. It's a lovely practice by Bethesda when that support should have been incorporated natively into the PC version. I'm assuming that so much had to be changed to make the game not run like poo poo so it works in VR that it is no longer compatible with the original Fallout 4. I'm fully expecting no mods and no fixes to anything besides performance. if they were going to make the game not suck, they would patch that into the original game, which they apparently haven't. iceaim posted:drat Super Lucky's Tale ditching VR really feels like a kick in the gut. They're not going to even bother adding it as an optional feature. Microsoft hasn't mentioned anything about VR yet. They might bring up VR at a later time and then say "Super Lucky's Tale works both on your TV and in VR."
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Cojawfee posted:I'm assuming that so much had to be changed to make the game not run like poo poo so it works in VR that it is no longer compatible with the original Fallout 4. I'm fully expecting no mods and no fixes to anything besides performance. if they were going to make the game not suck, they would patch that into the original game, which they apparently haven't. The "work" they have put in justifies them charging full-price, it doesn't have to have anything to do with engine limitations. They can put the work in that ads on VR support to a game they have already made but spin it around and charge it full price because the market will support that. If they just glommed on VR support to Fallout 4 then it would have to compete with that, be attached to that and everything that comes with it. A new game means a new, blank store front, news feed, marketing angle and news coverage separate from everything Fallout 4 already has. The trick is though they did just glom on VR support to Fallout 4 but are going to way that makes them the most money. The differences between them doing the Skyrim Special Edition thing and Fallout 4 VR are pretty wide with what we know. Skyrim Special Edition is different from Oldrim in that SSE is on the Fallout 4 engine, a x64 executable and all the changes that come with that which is the reason mods don't just 'work' without a minimum of conversion. The only issue I can see with mods on Fallout 4 VR is performance destruction because modders have no checks when it comes to framerates. 4k textures for spoons are the norm you see. KakerMix fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Jun 12, 2017 |
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Jun 12, 2017 17:51
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Microsoft have Windows Holographic and if the Xbonex supports any kind of VR API it'd be that. Once those headsets get released I assume we'll hear more about console support for them.
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KakerMix posted:The "work" they have put in justifies them charging full-price, it doesn't have to have anything to do with engine limitations. They can put the work in that ads on VR support to a game they have already made but spin it around and charge it full price because the market will support that. If they just glommed on VR support to Fallout 4 then it would have to compete with that, be attached to that and everything that comes with it. A new game means a new, blank store front, news feed, marketing angle and news coverage separate from everything Fallout 4 already has. I don't own Fallout 4, nor did I bother finishing Fallout 3. But I'll pay whatever price they care to charge for Fallout 4 VR, assuming it basically works. It sounds awesome, and I hope more companies make VR stuff, even if they have to charge lots and/or end up double charging. I'm already in this for a lot of money; at this point, more content is worth big money
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A bit part of the reason why I got a VR headset was the promise of open-ended RPG gameplay like in Bethesda RPGs being a perfect fit for the medium. Fallout 4 isn't the best example of the genre and has problems, but damnit it's good enough.
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jmzero posted:I don't own Fallout 4, nor did I bother finishing Fallout 3. Yeah same. The idea that people stopped playing Fallout 4 to not spoil it for Fallout 4 VR is pretty hilarious though. News flash guys: Fallout 4's story is poo poo garbage, characters are garbage poo poo and the whole narrative is piss fire. The fun in it is all the incidental stuff and world exploration.
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KakerMix posted:Yeah same. I stopped playing it because I would rather just play New Vegas again.
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Why do people keep saying the Fallout story is bad? You can shoot your kid in the head, how many games let you murder your own children
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Lemming posted:Why do people keep saying the Fallout story is bad? You can shoot your kid in the head, how many games let you murder your own children The Sims
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Lemming posted:Why do people keep saying the Fallout story is bad? You can shoot your kid in the head, how many games let you murder your own children You are intentionally leaving out information that is vital to would-be child killers the world over mister
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Nalin posted:It's going to require a GTX 1080 Ti for min-spec. I don't know anything about gaming hardware these days, did they say this anywhere or is this just very obviously what will happen?
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Jun 12, 2017 20:07
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I just want the game to let me play with the framerate unlocked without everything breaking and to let me use a mouse+keyboard AND a controller without having to do some .ini bullshit to get one or the other to work. That PC port is an embarrassment; I honestly don't have high hopes for the VR stuff.
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mellowjournalism posted:I don't know anything about gaming hardware these days, did they say this anywhere or is this just very obviously what will happen? Todd Howard is my friend and he said "yes I said it" just now, to me
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mellowjournalism posted:I don't know anything about gaming hardware these days, did they say this anywhere or is this just very obviously what will happen? It was a joke, but also kinda not. All of the Bethesda Creation Engine games (Fallout 3/4, Skyrim, etc) are janky, buggy, and slow as poo poo. I just can't believe they can get it running at a consistent 90 Hz. Especially because all the physics and puzzles and stuff break at > 60 FPS!
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Jun 12, 2017 20:25
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And it will be SteamVR only so you don't even get ASW to hold your hand. I can't wait to see the reviews on it.
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Nalin posted:And it will be SteamVR only so you don't even get ASW to hold your hand. I can't wait to see the reviews on it. ASW works on SteamVR when using a Rift
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Jun 12, 2017 20:30
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Anyone taking bets on whether Bethesda actually does an HMD check to lock out the Oculus?
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I know that Zenimax, the parent company of Bethesda, had sued Oculus for like $500 million at some point. I wonder if we'll see official support.
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InevitableCheese posted:I know that Zenimax, the parent company of Bethesda, had sued Oculus for like $500 million at some point. I wonder if we'll see official support. I mean look how passive-aggressive they were when they first announced Fallout 4 VR and how slatheringly they smear 'Vive' all over everything.
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So if they are doing a vr version of fallout 4 would that mean they are going back and untieing the phsyics engine from the fps? Because thats why it was capped at 60fps and made for hilarious poo poo when doing a lock pick at 300fps and things moving faster then the eye could see So if they have to go back and fix up some of that poo poo i could totally get behind having to pay 60 for a new version that also had native unlocked fps and widescreen support for normal monitor use too
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Lone Echo and mages tale both coming out within 2 weeks? Doom & fallout on the way? VR's dark days are over! Lone echo multi looks like the poo poo I'm gonna play way too much. Fooz fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Jun 12, 2017 |
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Jun 12, 2017 22:33
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Fooz posted:Lone echo multi looks like the poo poo I'm gonna play way too much. The presentation made it look to me like the single player and the multiplayer were different games with different names and different release dates? I might have misunderstood that, though, it wasn't that clear.
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Ok it was super confusing but looks like Lone echo comes out on July 20, but the free beta of the multiplayer starts June 23? https://www.oculus.com/blog/defy-gravity-with-lone-echo-and-echo-arena-pre-orders-now-open/
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Scarecow posted:So if they are doing a vr version of fallout 4 would that mean they are going back and untieing the phsyics engine from the fps? Because thats why it was capped at 60fps and made for hilarious poo poo when doing a lock pick at 300fps and things moving faster then the eye could see No, they are tieing it to 90 fps now. So when the game inevitably runs at 45 fps everything will move in slow motion all the time.
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Fooz posted:Ok it was super confusing but looks like Lone echo comes out on July 20, but the free beta of the multiplayer starts June 23? It sounds like they are two separate games. Both come out on July 20, but the multiplayer game has a free beta period a month prior.
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Fooz posted:Ok it was super confusing but looks like Lone echo comes out on July 20, but the free beta of the multiplayer starts June 23? Yeah can't wait I'm gonna be the best at it
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Lemming posted:Yeah can't wait I'm gonna be the best at it Nuh uh Ender Wiggum
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Re: FO4VR, the E3 presentation briefly showed some huge walking robot which wasn't in the base game unless it was in the main story which I still didn't play. I imagine they will add a DLC-sized new story to help justify the purchase, but never underestimate Bethesda's laziness and newfound love of rehashing. I am unfortunately a slave to this and will buy it on release, probably with a sub-$50 price from greenmangaming.
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Sintax posted:Re: FO4VR, the E3 presentation briefly showed some huge walking robot which wasn't in the base game unless it was in the main story which I still didn't play. I imagine they will add a DLC-sized new story to help justify the purchase, but never underestimate Bethesda's laziness and newfound love of rehashing. I am unfortunately a slave to this and will buy it on release, probably with a sub-$50 price from greenmangaming. Yeah that's Liberty Prime which you might not see depending on which playthrough you do.
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Sintax posted:These motherfuckers gonna make us pay for the same mediocre game twice Yeh I'll probably still buy it tho
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"What else are you gonna do? Play more TiltBrush!? AHAHAHAHAHA!" - Bethesda
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I'm gonna be the king of lone echo actaully
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