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Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Silvergun1000 posted:

Isn't that just the PotD hair? Looks almost exactly like it does on my catgirl, does it look different on Hyur?

That has a straight fringe/bangs instead of side swept

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Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

Holyshoot posted:

the 3-4 hours i was in there it wasn't terrible. I even tried to get them to argue at me that alienware was a bad computer brand and they were all supportive and saying "if thats what you like then go you!".

it's not bad most of the time, but it's filled with inane mentor chat novices very much do not care about.

LITERALLY MY FETISH
Nov 11, 2010


Raise Chris Coons' taxes so that we can have Medicare for All.

vOv posted:

As a non-NIN, why would you want to use Shuriken over Raiton? Because it takes less time to input, or animation lock, or?

Everything else too, but also because it looks way cooler.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

I have recently discovered that the cool face with rad sideburns I picked for my male midlander hyur has weird half-eyebrows and I can't get over it, please help :negative:

Harrow fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Jun 12, 2017

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


Do lalafells simply just not bend when they bow, or are they incapable of bending at all? The animations Ive seen lead me to believe the latter.

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream

Oxyclean posted:

Do lalafells simply just not bend when they bow, or are they incapable of bending at all? The animations Ive seen lead me to believe the latter.

Well, tbf, Source Filmmaker animations aren't canon.

Tenik
Jun 23, 2010


Harrow posted:

I have recently discovered that the cool face with rad sideburns I picked for my male midlander hyur has weird half-eyebrows and I can't get over it, please help :negative:

Talk to the aesthetician. You can change your eyebrows, and most faces have additional options for eyebrows under the facial features tab.

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!
So is the Letter from the Producer tomorrow live from E3 or is it just being streamed from Japan during the Square Enix E3 show?

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Tenik posted:

Talk to the aesthetician. You can change your eyebrows, and most faces have additional options for eyebrows under the facial features tab.

Sadly this one only has different eyebrow positions. They're all weirdly short and end like halfway over the eye instead of extending the full way. I picked this face because it's the only non-old guy midlander face with facial hair that isn't just a lovely little mustache but I didn't notice the weird-rear end eyebrows.

Oh, well. Not worth buying a fantasia over. (I may change my tune on this as I go through more cutscenes that do close-ups on my dude's goofy face.)

I suppose I could fantasia to catboy but, well, then I'd be a catboy and I'm not sure how to feel about that

Harrow fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Jun 12, 2017

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


I just saw the launch trailer for the first time

fuuuuuuuuuck I want to level all the things now

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus
Glad I held off on preordering until I get paid Thursday. Just got a 10% off voucher from GMG for SB, bringing it down to a 27% discount.

And I'd like to extend my thanks again to the goons running to Goon Gear Drive 2017. Finished the MSQ last night, staying up way later than I should have on a work night. It did a surprisingly good job of leading to SB, which is something I had kind of wondered about going into it after learning what SB was about in general.

I do have one thing that I'm kind of curious about though. We have fought and defeated a multitude of primals. We have fought and defeated the greatest technological marvel that the Empire was able to rebuild(using the expertise of a guy no longer working for them). We fought and defeated one of the oldest dragons in the world, and then beat his pure rage manifested. So, saying that, what the gently caress does the Empire have to throw at us that is at all threatening to the Warrior of Light?

Khisanth Magus fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Jun 12, 2017

LITERALLY MY FETISH
Nov 11, 2010


Raise Chris Coons' taxes so that we can have Medicare for All.

Harrow posted:

Sadly this one only has different eyebrow positions. They're all weirdly short and end like halfway over the eye instead of extending the full way. I picked this face because it's the only non-old guy midlander face with facial hair that isn't just a lovely little mustache but I didn't notice the weird-rear end eyebrows.

Oh, well. Not worth buying a fantasia over. (I may change my tune on this as I go through more cutscenes that do close-ups on my dude's goofy face.)

I suppose I could fantasia to catboy but, well, then I'd be a catboy and I'm not sure how to feel about that

The correct answer is to eventually fantasia to Highlander and get the biggest and most luxurious mustache you can.

Dukka
Apr 28, 2007

lock teams or bust

Mordiceius posted:

So is the Letter from the Producer tomorrow live from E3 or is it just being streamed from Japan during the Square Enix E3 show?
Yoshida and some other peeps are in LA at the show. It is why the patch note reading on Thursday night is also at a sane time since they will still be there.

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


ZenMasterBullshit posted:

Well, tbf, Source Filmmaker animations aren't canon.

Unless theres some joke Im missing I just meant in-game animations, the lack of bending during bowing and the way they waddle makes it look like they don't have hips or something :v:

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
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Oxyclean posted:

Unless theres some joke Im missing I just meant in-game animations, the lack of bending during bowing and the way they waddle makes it look like they don't have hips or something :v:

SFM is a animations platform with lots of amazing and robust tools that most people use to just make high quality video game porn.

Jinh
Sep 12, 2008

Fun Shoe
Even if we didn't get a new race I'm honestly surprised they don't add more face options to characters to entice people to buy fantasias. Maybe because of all the facial animations in emotes and cutscenes? Idk whats involved under the hood.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

I'd love new faces, though I'm already pretty likely to buy more fantasias than I should because I can never be happy with my character's face so hey

A Spider Covets
May 4, 2009


Gizmo Chicken posted:


It has a little hat! :3:

Quoting for new page + I need hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiim :3:

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!

Dukka posted:

Yoshida and some other peeps are in LA at the show. It is why the patch note reading on Thursday night is also at a sane time since they will still be there.

I take it that's when we'll be seeing the notes for the first time then?

Also A Stage Reborn put on their newest show this last weekend, if anyone's interested. It's pretty decent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HaC72Vl5mA

Tsurupettan
Mar 26, 2011

My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters

Khisanth Magus posted:

Glad I held off on preordering until I get paid Thursday. Just got a 10% off voucher from GMG for SB, bringing it down to a 27% discount.

And I'd like to extend my thanks again to the goons running to Goon Gear Drive 2017. Finished the MSQ last night, staying up way later than I should have on a work night. It did a surprisingly good job of leading to SB, which is something I had kind of wondered about going into it after learning what SB was about in general.

I do have one thing that I'm kind of curious about though. We have fought and defeated a multitude of primals. We have fought and defeated the greatest technological marvel that the Empire was able to rebuild(using the expertise of a guy no longer working for them). We fought and defeated one of the oldest dragons in the world, and then beat his pure rage manifested. So, saying that, what the gently caress does the Empire have to throw at us that is at all threatening to the Warrior of Light?

The thing about FF14 is that there is no in text evidence to suggest an escalation of power. Leviathan is theoretically no stronger or weaker than Ifrit. While in game mechanics terms that is obviously not true, it's largely not supported by the text that one is intrinsically more powerful than the other.

Due to this, one has no reason to believe any of those fights were easy narratively speaking.

Thus, the next antagonist doesn't need to be the biggest most world ending threat ever to be a valid antagonist as in WoW.

Captain Oblivious fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Jun 12, 2017

Terper
Jun 26, 2012


Captain Oblivious posted:

Leviathan is theoretically no stronger or weaker than Leviathan.
I suppose that is technically true.

Shy
Mar 20, 2010

Harrow posted:

Not worth buying a fantasia over.

I bought a fantasia to slightly change the skin color, than another one to change the eye color. I'm going to buy another one before sb, I think my character needs a bit darker skin and maybe a bit lighter eyes? Help.

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters

Terper posted:

I suppose that is technically true.

Lulz. Corrected :v:

The lack of overt escalation of power levels is my favorite thing in FF14 though. Aside from exceptions like Ultima/Thordan/Omega/Bahamut which are overtly treated as exceptional threats, thus their role as raid bosses or end of story boss fights, everything is treated about the same. It's a threat, it doesn't need to be any more complicated than that. We don't need scouters to rank them.

El Cid
Mar 17, 2005

What good is power when you're too wise to use it?
Grimey Drawer

Khisanth Magus posted:

I do have one thing that I'm kind of curious about though. We have fought and defeated a multitude of primals. We have fought and defeated the greatest technological marvel that the Empire was able to rebuild(using the expertise of a guy no longer working for them). We fought and defeated one of the oldest dragons in the world, and then beat his pure rage manifested. So, saying that, what the gently caress does the Empire have to throw at us that is at all threatening to the Warrior of Light?

Well, in Baelsar's Wall once the guy triggered the alarm or whatever 5 more of those robots you fought one of as a boss showed up. So I guess they have numbers?

Note Block
May 14, 2007

nothing could fit so perfectly inside




Fun Shoe

Shy posted:

I bought a fantasia to slightly change the skin color, than another one to change the eye color. I'm going to buy another one before sb, I think my character needs a bit darker skin and maybe a bit lighter eyes? Help.

I have also bought fantasia simply to tweak eye and skin colors since I couldn't change them from the aesthetician.

Boogalo
Jul 8, 2012

Meep Meep




I used the one free fantasia to max out the boob slider on my catgirl.

Rap Game Goku
Apr 2, 2008

Word to your moms, I came to drop spirit bombs


Boogalo posted:

I used the one free fantasia to max out the boob slider on my catgirl.

I used mine to change hair, but I also made sure I'd done this.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Shy posted:

I bought a fantasia to slightly change the skin color, than another one to change the eye color. I'm going to buy another one before sb, I think my character needs a bit darker skin and maybe a bit lighter eyes? Help.

Note Block posted:

I have also bought fantasia simply to tweak eye and skin colors since I couldn't change them from the aesthetician.

These are both things I would definitely do and will probably do sooner than I'd admit because I am a consumer sheep who cares way too much about his anime mage man's appearance :negative:

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

Captain Oblivious posted:

The thing about FF14 is that there is no in text evidence to suggest an escalation of power. Leviathan is theoretically no stronger or weaker than Ifrit. While in game mechanics terms that is obviously not true, it's largely not supported by the text that one is intrinsically more powerful than the other.

Due to this, one has no reason to believe any of those fights were easy narratively speaking.

Thus, the next antagonist doesn't need to be the biggest most world ending threat ever to be a valid antagonist as in WoW.

The game does seem to acknowledge that it's an escalating problem, and the hard modes for the original fights at least did make the point that more crystals were being used than before (and hw patch material covered how beast tribes were finding a new source of crystals), so I do think we're supposed to see it as a continually worsening situation. The escalation obviously isn't meant to be 1:1 with the increase in power of our characters mechanically, and every game runs into this situation with random mobs being tougher than past endgame content, so some level of narrative disconnect is assumed, but I do think we're supposed to see the threat as getting bigger over time. Having just beaten Alexander recently, I'm pretty sure I remember someone saying he was draining aether faster than any other primal so far.

Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Jun 12, 2017

Dukka
Apr 28, 2007

lock teams or bust

Countblanc posted:

I take it that's when we'll be seeing the notes for the first time then?
Yea, full notes some time after the downtime starts like normal. Perlim notes are generally expected to be tomorrow though.

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters

Sinteres posted:

The game does seem to acknowledge that it's an escalating problem, and the hard modes for the original fights at least did make the point that more crystals were being used than before (and hw patch material covered how beast tribes were finding a new source of crystals), so I do think we're supposed to see it as a continually worsening situation. The escalation obviously isn't meant to be 1:1 with the increase in power of our characters mechanically, and every game runs into this situation with random mobs being tougher than past endgame content, so some level of narrative disconnect is assumed, but I do think we're supposed to see the threat as getting bigger over time.

Sort of yes, sort of no. The narrative is explicit that Ifrit EX is stronger than Ifrit HM, iterations of the SAME Primal, but there is no indication given that one Primal is intrinsically more powerful than another save for Elder Primals like Alexander and Bahamut.

That quantity of crystals and the power of belief behind a Primal can make it especially potent is acknowledged in the narrative, but they're intentionally avoiding ranking threats I think. The vagueness helps preserve a sense of scale and avoid the problem where the issues of the common man become totally irrelevant.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

Gizmo Chicken posted:


It has a little hat! :3:

OMG. :love:

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

Captain Oblivious posted:

Sort of yes, sort of no. The narrative is explicit that Ifrit EX is stronger than Ifrit HM, iterations of the SAME Primal, but there is no indication given that one Primal is intrinsically more powerful than another save for Elder Primals like Alexander and Bahamut.

That quantity of crystals and the power of belief behind a Primal can make it especially potent is acknowledged in the narrative, but they're intentionally avoiding ranking threats I think. The vagueness helps preserve a sense of scale and avoid the problem where the issues of the common man become totally irrelevant.

It could have just been being arrogant because, well, Primal, but in ARR Garuda seemed to think she could easily defeat Ifrit and Titan together to absorb their aether to make herself stronger to fight the WoL. Plus, you know, we defeated the machine that tossed all 3 of them around like a stuffed toy.

I'd also assume that Nidhogg, and especially the "Incarnation of hate with both eyes" Nidhogg, would be more powerful than any of the Primals we fought, particularly as those same eyes were what provided most of the actual power to summon Shinryu.

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters

Khisanth Magus posted:

It could have just been being arrogant because, well, Primal, but in ARR Garuda seemed to think she could easily defeat Ifrit and Titan together to absorb their aether to make herself stronger to fight the WoL. Plus, you know, we defeated the machine that tossed all 3 of them around like a stuffed toy.

I'd also assume that Nidhogg, and especially the "Incarnation of hate with both eyes" Nidhogg, would be more powerful than any of the Primals we fought, particularly as those same eyes were what provided most of the actual power to summon Shinryu.

That is the vagueness Im talking about. We can vaguely infer Nidhogg is an extra big deal (at the very least we know dragons seem to be Aether batteries of some kind) but the narrative does not tell us all previous trials were baby garbage by comparison or anything like that

Also recall we only defeated Ultima due to Hydaelyns direct interference. The literal hand of god interceded to stop us from dying and to make it hurtable.

Captain Oblivious fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Jun 12, 2017

The Duchess Smackarse
May 8, 2012

by Lowtax
When's early access start? I can't seem to find the info anywhere!

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009

Jimmy Hats posted:

When's early access start? I can't seem to find the info anywhere!

Friday, 9am UTC.

Jinh
Sep 12, 2008

Fun Shoe

Captain Oblivious posted:

Sort of yes, sort of no. The narrative is explicit that Ifrit EX is stronger than Ifrit HM, iterations of the SAME Primal, but there is no indication given that one Primal is intrinsically more powerful than another save for Elder Primals like Alexander and Bahamut.

That quantity of crystals and the power of belief behind a Primal can make it especially potent is acknowledged in the narrative, but they're intentionally avoiding ranking threats I think. The vagueness helps preserve a sense of scale and avoid the problem where the issues of the common man become totally irrelevant.

Yeah I feel like this is the most accurate take. Ultima, Omega, Thordan, and Shinryu are clearly on a higher level than all currently known wild primal. It seems like the warrior of light is expected to just be stronger than any wild primal and a more balanced match with the man-made ones, though through anime values like friendship and teamwork we always win.

Argas
Jan 13, 2008
SRW Fanatic




Wacky Delly posted:

I used mine to change hair, but I also made sure I'd done this.

Um, pretty sure you can change your hair without a fantasia.

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Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!

Dukka posted:

Yoshida and some other peeps are in LA at the show. It is why the patch note reading on Thursday night is also at a sane time since they will still be there.

Dope. I'll be at E3 so maybe I'll try to hunt down the man himself for a picture.

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