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evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

There Bias Two posted:

So is it totally dead now? I doubt the Supreme Court will wish to hear it.

There's already a petition for the Supreme Court to review the 4th Circuit's decision. This decision makes it very slightly more likely they don't review it (if the 9th Circuit had reversed, that would have created a circuit split virtually requiring Supreme Court review) but it was already viewed as extremely likely they were going to take the case.

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skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

paranoid randroid posted:

you idiots are so determined to be defeated regardless of what happens

persecution complex seems to be the leading vindication of horseshoe theory

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




Owlofcreamcheese posted:

Old people often eat weird food because they basically came from another culture and then got hosed up sensory nerves by being old. Like how old people always like boiled/steamed greens and no one under 60 does. It's 50% cultural shift that people can eat fresh greens all year long now so they don't make due with cans of muck and then old people mouths not being able to taste how awful and bitter canned steamed greens are compared to just buying fresh baby spinach or something like a modern person.

You can boil your own fresh collards. They're good.

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
we need transformative change in the democratic party, but ill be good god damned if i actually do anything besides lie on the floor emitting high pitched whines about how nooootthiiinnng maaaatteeeerrs

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

9th Circuit decision: http://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2017/06/12/17-15589.pdf

hilarious aside: the 9th circuit holds that tweets are official statements from the President:

https://twitter.com/rickhasen/status/874311983192981504

also, the 9th circuit calls trump's bluff that "but the injunctions are preventing us from doing our review which is why we still need the ban even though it was supposed to expire!!!!!"

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord
lol, the maryland constitution lists "banishment forever" as the punishment for breaking the emoluments clause

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
Can you guys get rid of your manbaby president already so our coward government will stop trying to appease him on climate change so he won't skullfuck nafta jesus

Not a Children
Oct 9, 2012

Don't need a holster if you never stop shooting.

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

lol, the maryland constitution lists "banishment forever" as the punishment for breaking the emoluments clause

Badass and just

NoEyedSquareGuy
Mar 16, 2009

Just because Liquor's dead, doesn't mean you can just roll this bitch all over town with "The Freedoms."

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

lol, the maryland constitution lists "banishment forever" as the punishment for breaking the emoluments clause

Does this mean Trump gets sent to a remote island to live out the rest of his days if he's found guilty?

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Aurubin posted:

in a district that voted for Trump by 1 percentage point. Forest for the trees, etc.

the district is pretty republican, it's just not the kind of republican that likes trump. this is more about distaste of trump breaking away the softer edges of the republican voter base, especially moderates and status quo business types who are nervous about trump loving with trade like a jackass. that's absolutely something the dems need to figure out before the midterms, and this isn't the time or place to complain about the dems not being socialists

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

There is no difference between Trump and Kim Jung Un's staff meetings.

BlueberryCanary
Mar 18, 2016

NoEyedSquareGuy posted:

Does this mean Trump gets sent to a remote island to live out the rest of his days if he's found guilty?

Nah. He would probably go live in Russia.

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




https://twitter.com/wabermes/status/874302131578208258

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

lol, the maryland constitution lists "banishment forever" as the punishment for breaking the emoluments clause

Is banishment from Maryland actually a punishment or more of a favor

There Bias Two
Jan 13, 2009
I'm not a good person

evilweasel posted:

9th Circuit decision: http://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2017/06/12/17-15589.pdf

hilarious aside: the 9th circuit holds that tweets are official statements from the President:

https://twitter.com/rickhasen/status/874311983192981504

also, the 9th circuit calls trump's bluff that "but the injunctions are preventing us from doing our review which is why we still need the ban even though it was supposed to expire!!!!!"

That in itself is some pretty interesting precedent. All his tweets are official statements and therefore subject to all the rules governing their use.

Piell
Sep 3, 2006

Grey Worm's Ken doll-like groin throbbed with the anticipatory pleasure that only a slightly warm and moist piece of lemoncake could offer


Young Orc
Spicer press briefing scheduled to start in 10 minutes

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!
So why didn't the Democrats make Puerto Rico a state when they had 60 votes in 2009?

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe
Has Bharat being sacked come up yet?

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


boner confessor posted:

no, completely wrong

he eats crappy food because he has a child's palate and he's only concerned about the short term pleasure of eating salty fatty hamburgers constantly and not the long term consequences of this behavior, which is what motivates most people to eat vegetables

Trump also doesn't exercise at all because he has this bizarre belief that people are born with only a certain amount of "energy" and that exercising uses it up shortening your life.

Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011


This is at least kinda funny. Disband the CIA tho.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

The Glumslinger posted:

Also, vegetables taste good if you cook them correctly and don't just boil em to they turn grey

sure, vegetables can taste good. but people generally dont like eating a vegetable heavy diet because they're not as tasty as other foods. the grown up thing to do is eat other foods sparingly along with a larger proportion of vegetables in your diet

it's amazing tho that trump is constantly surrounded by incredible chefs cooking incredible meals and he has some poor secret service jerkoff go to the mickey d's drive through to bring a happy meal on air force one

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord
It's super worth reading the lawsuit: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/bal-document-lawsuit-filed-against-president-trump-20170612-htmlstory.html

It has more "this would be super hard to prove normally but trump just said it" stuff.

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




Sinteres posted:

This is the kind of poo poo cult members would say.

https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/874297130164289536

It sounds exactly like he's saying the blessing before dinner.

Ballz
Dec 16, 2003

it's mario time

mcmagic posted:

So why didn't the Democrats make Puerto Rico a state when they had 60 votes in 2009?

Puerto Rico hadn't put in the request to join and there was no consensus on the island at the time. Since then there've been two nonbinding referendums that pointed toward statehood, as well as the economic freefall that could be slightly cushioned by statehood.

ThePeavstenator
Dec 18, 2012

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:

Establish the Buns

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:

DariusLikewise posted:

Can you guys get rid of your manbaby president already so our coward government will stop trying to appease him on climate change so he won't skullfuck nafta jesus

yeah let me get right on that

Snuffman
May 21, 2004

There Bias Two posted:

That in itself is some pretty interesting precedent. All his tweets are official statements and therefore subject to all the rules governing their use.

This is amazing and I'm sure it'll come back to bite him in the rear end.

Trump's desire to be the centre of attention and constantly praised will be his downfall.

Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

It's super worth reading the lawsuit: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/bal-document-lawsuit-filed-against-president-trump-20170612-htmlstory.html

It has more "this would be super hard to prove normally but trump just said it" stuff.

I'm not a lawyer, where in the document do they argue that they have appropriate standing?

Unzip and Attack
Mar 3, 2008

USPOL May

Alter Ego posted:


No Republican on Earth would be able to credibly defend Mueller's firing, especially since he's been almost silent since being hired.

"The president can fire anyone he wants so it's not illegal or wrong in any way" will be the lockstep response.

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

boner confessor posted:

the district is pretty republican, it's just not the kind of republican that likes trump. this is more about distaste of trump breaking away the softer edges of the republican voter base, especially moderates and status quo business types who are nervous about trump loving with trade like a jackass. that's absolutely something the dems need to figure out before the midterms, and this isn't the time or place to complain about the dems not being socialists

ya basically

ga06 will not elect a loving socialist in our lifetimes. an economically-right and socially-left dem is a pretty loving big win, should his lead hold

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

DariusLikewise posted:

Can you guys get rid of your manbaby president already so our coward government will stop trying to appease him on climate change so he won't skullfuck nafta jesus

You work on your cowards and we'll work on our manbaby.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

lol, what a joke.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

mcmagic posted:

So why didn't the Democrats make Puerto Rico a state when they had 60 votes in 2009?

Puerto Rico didn't ask. The citizens of Puerto Rico have been split between full independence/current status/full statehood for a while and no group has won a clear mandate for their approach so the status quo has just persisted. If there's a clear mandate for statehood then it becomes much easier.

Better question to ask is why they didn't make Washington DC a state.

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

boner confessor posted:

sure, vegetables can taste good. but people generally dont like eating a vegetable heavy diet because they're not as tasty as other foods. the grown up thing to do is eat other foods sparingly along with a larger proportion of vegetables in your diet

it's amazing tho that trump is constantly surrounded by incredible chefs cooking incredible meals and he has some poor secret service jerkoff go to the mickey d's drive through to bring a happy meal on air force one

People don't like how vegetables taste because they don't eat vegetables

The more vegetables you eat, the better they taste

Your diet dictates what your body wants, if you can suffer the horror of eating mostly veggies for like a month you'd be amazed at how much you actually want to eat vegetables!

(Not criticism directed at you OP just a general observation, 'eat mostly veggies with some other stuff mixed in' is great advice)

Wonder if there's some correlation between 'is a poo poo president' and diet. Bill Clinton's vegan nowadays eh?

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

evilweasel posted:

Puerto Rico didn't ask. The citizens of Puerto Rico have been split between full independence/current status/full statehood for a while and no group has won a clear mandate for their approach so the status quo has just persisted. If there's a clear mandate for statehood then it becomes much easier.

Better question to ask is why they didn't make Washington DC a state.

I forgot about that. Agenda item number 1 when they retake power and get rid of the filibuster should be to make both PR and DC states and boom, 4 more democratic senators.

Serfer
Mar 10, 2003

The piss tape is real



Unzip and Attack posted:

"The president can fire anyone he wants so it's not illegal or wrong in any way" will be the lockstep response.

Well, and what they're already trying to establish, which is that the investigation is pointless because there was no collusion and Comey proved it when he said <citation needed>. But regardless it's all fake news and just a waste of valuable taxpayer money, and a distraction from the real issue of <whatever trump wants to do>.

DaveWoo
Aug 14, 2004

Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/GideonResnick/status/874314491261005824

https://twitter.com/alexburnsNYT/status/874315578252693504

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord

Aurubin posted:

I'm not a lawyer, where in the document do they argue that they have appropriate standing?

I'm not a lawyer either and this is a big list of claims, so I'm not sure there is any sense in them suing over the china stuff. But stuff like the BLT hotel and the event center has a really direct "trump owns a thing, the state owns a thing, they are competitors, people said they picked trump's because he is president and trump also said that" which seems very direct 1-2-3 for why it's in the state's interest to sue directly on it and that he is openly using his position to earn money.

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

my bony fealty posted:

Wonder if there's some correlation between 'is a poo poo president' and diet. Bill Clinton's vegan nowadays eh?

there's all sorts of brain science linked to diet so yeah i imagine high-salt, high sugar and high sat-fat diet including mostly of buckets of 8-piece special recipe do a lot to gently caress your brain, including iirc making you more irritable, paranoid, prone to brain fuckery etc

clinton also exercised, as displayed by the uncomfortably short jogging shorts he and al gore sported while jogging :allears:

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

boner confessor posted:

the district is pretty republican, it's just not the kind of republican that likes trump. this is more about distaste of trump breaking away the softer edges of the republican voter base, especially moderates and status quo business types who are nervous about trump loving with trade like a jackass. that's absolutely something the dems need to figure out before the midterms, and this isn't the time or place to complain about the dems not being socialists

Yeah, Trump won it by 1%...but the Republican candidate in the same election won by 23%. What this means is that Democrats are successfully getting the wealthy whites who liked Republicans but hated Trump to vote Democratic.

Which is extremely handy for 2018 because it suggests that the assumptions that the 2010 gerrymandering were built on may no longer be true - poor whites migrating to the Republican party, rich white migrating to the Democratic party. Even if it's a wash, the change makes the gerrymander less effective and means that Democrats may have a better chance to get the majority - because Democratic voters were previously packed into heavily Democratic districts, so some defections there probably doesn't matter, but Republican voters were stretched into moderately Republican districts making it easier to swing them.

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EwokEntourage
Jun 10, 2008

BREYER: Actually, Antonin, you got it backwards. See, a power bottom is actually generating all the dissents by doing most of the work.

SCALIA: Stephen, I've heard that speed has something to do with it.

BREYER: Speed has everything to do with it.

Aurubin posted:

I'm not a lawyer, where in the document do they argue that they have appropriate standing?

You don't argue standing in a complaint, you just assert it. They assert subject matter jurisdiction in paragraph 21. They won't be arguing standing until the government files a motion to dismiss

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