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I don't understand why they couldn't just jam some generic re-prints in with sets with a picture of the colour related planeswalker casting that spell, just have a picture of Chandra casting lightning bolt or whatever, you can even include the plane behind. There, bam it's now related.
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DariusLikewise posted:I don't understand why they couldn't just jam some generic re-prints in with sets with a picture of the colour related planeswalker casting that spell, just have a picture of Chandra casting lightning bolt or whatever, you can even include the plane behind. There, bam it's now related. Creative: actually Chandra uses fire, not lightning, so that's not within flavor guidelines. Reprint Fireblast.
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Jun 12, 2017 18:45
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Look, all these changes are nice and everything, but when are we getting Shakespeare quotes as flavour text again?
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Jun 12, 2017 18:45
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You can't print Chandra casting bolt because she's a pyromancer*. *Part of an argument that has probably already happened over at design. EDIT: haha beaten.
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Jun 12, 2017 18:46
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You know what starts fires? Lightning.
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Jun 12, 2017 18:51
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I for one believe that Chandra should be able to call upon a goblin army when it is convenient for the competitive environment
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Jun 12, 2017 18:53
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odiv posted:Look, all these changes are nice and everything, but when are we getting Shakespeare quotes as flavour text again? 100% this, and also other classic literature.
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Jun 12, 2017 18:59
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That's exactly the point! One's lightning, the other's fire! They're different!
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Jun 12, 2017 19:03
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Clearly they should take the same approach and give us an on-flavor functional reprint of Lightning Bolt. EDIT: at common, just to make sure Pauper feels the joy too.
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Jun 12, 2017 19:03
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Voyager I posted:Clearly they should take the same approach and give us an on-flavor functional reprint of Lightning Bolt. How much would Burn be improved by 4 more bolts?
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Jun 12, 2017 19:06
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Voyager I posted:Clearly they should take the same approach and give us an on-flavor functional reprint of Lightning Bolt. Would another playset of Lightning Bolt actually improve Legacy Burn by that much? It almost certainly would for Modern and Pauper, but Legacy already has too many options to an extent. I mean I guess worst case scenario you replace Lava Spikes with them and do better in some very niche situations. Clearly we need to make it happen so we can find out. 
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Jun 12, 2017 19:07
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Make it like: 3R Deal 3 damage to target creature or players. ~ This spell costs 3 less to cast if you dealt damage to an opponent this turn
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Jun 12, 2017 19:14
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80s James Hetfield posted:Make it like: actually don't make that card, thanks
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Jun 12, 2017 19:14
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odiv posted:Look, all these changes are nice and everything, but when are we getting Shakespeare quotes as flavour text again? they randomly did one on M14 Pay No Heed after a long drought, and then nothing again since to my knowledge.
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Jun 12, 2017 19:17
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Some Numbers posted:That's exactly the point! One's lightning, the other's fire! They're different! That was something Maro had said in some article: they wish they had added subtypes to more card types early in the game. So example: bolt would be instant - lightning and you could have creatures with protection from lightning or enchantments that juice up your lightning spells or w/e. You could do the same thing with creatures, ball lightning would be creature - lightning elemental, you could have rules between elements, lightning does damage +1 to water or damage - 1 to earth or something like that. They tried it with arcane and again with tribal. Neither really worked out all that well.
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Jun 12, 2017 19:19
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More instant speed Bolts is only good for Burn. You could easily replace Lava Spike or Rift Bolt or Chain Lightning with Bolt 5-8
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Jun 12, 2017 19:20
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Some Numbers posted:More instant speed Bolts is only good for Burn. That's an easy pick. If the card can hit a player or creature, then you replace Lava Spike. Actually, just replace Lava Spike even if it can only hit a player.
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Jun 12, 2017 19:33
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Some Numbers posted:More instant speed Bolts is only good for Burn. It definitely is unambiguously better, I'm just not sure by how much because the edge cases where instant speed matters aren't common. Sub-1% winrate increase?
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Jun 12, 2017 19:34
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C-Euro posted:Oh yeah now we can get more outsider-designed cards like in M15 hell yeah  It was really cool having a few cards by people with totally different design sensibilities from the core team, and with the extra focus on ~brand outreach~ in recent years it actually seems like something they'd give anohter go.
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Jun 12, 2017 19:42
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If you could build a sealed pool from any packs in standard to run against a league of people doing the same, what packs would you pick and why? I'm tempted to lean towards all amonkhet for the cycling and the hope of getting glorybringers, but I've played very little limited with the other sets in standard, so I'm not sure how it would stack up against other sets in sealed.
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Jun 12, 2017 19:44
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Should have used the planeswalkers decks as the place to print generic staples into standard
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Jun 12, 2017 19:50
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dragon enthusiast posted:Should have used the planeswalkers decks as the place to print generic staples into standard Yeah, but having a core set again lets them print Dominiaria poo poo and stuff like Sengir Vampire Also whatever Duals they want around for the next year
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Jun 12, 2017 19:53
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C-Euro posted:100% this, and also other classic literature.  this was some drat cool flavor text
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Jun 12, 2017 19:54
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dragon enthusiast posted:Should have used the planeswalkers decks as the place to print generic staples into standard They should not, actually because that would be a ridiculously limited supply
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Jun 12, 2017 19:55
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TheChirurgeon posted:Yeah, but having a core set again lets them print Dominiaria poo poo and stuff like Sengir Vampire You know, the M10 duals would have been just fine in Shadows over Innistrad to compliment the enemy-colored duals from the first Innistrad set. Sunpetal Grove would not have had the giant flower but maybe a just a bunch of bright flowers instead. Glacial Fortress was probably the only real stretch for a plane-appropriate illustration, but we did get Thing in the Ice. Instead we got...whatever the gently caress those lands were supposed to be.
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Jun 12, 2017 19:57
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TheKingofSprings posted:They should not, actually because that would be a ridiculously limited supply That doesn't matter for reprints.
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Jun 12, 2017 19:58
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Drafting or playing core set sealed reminds me of playing Magic for the first time, it's just really janky kind of fun Magic at it's base. Where else can I win with Lava Axe for 5?
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Jun 12, 2017 19:59
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Elyv posted:
They should go back to literary flavor text on cards from core and supplemental sets.
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Jun 12, 2017 19:59
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uPen posted:That doesn't matter for reprints. Previously scarce cards can be reprinted. Of course it matters.
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Jun 12, 2017 20:01
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 The best flavor text on a Judge foil.
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Jun 12, 2017 20:01
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When people clamor for quotes from literature on cards, I always wonder if those same people actually read that stuff in their spare time.
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Jun 12, 2017 20:04
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Star Man posted:When people clamor for quotes from literature on cards, I always wonder if those same people actually read that stuff in their spare time. Probably in HS or College....
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Star Man posted:When people clamor for quotes from literature on cards, I always wonder if those same people actually read that stuff in their spare time. "having read or seen a Shakespearean play" seems like a pretty common thing, even if Richard III isn't one of the more commonly-assigned/read/performed plays vvvv same
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Jun 12, 2017 20:06
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It's been a while, but I've read more Shakespeare than MTG fiction.
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uPen posted:That doesn't matter for reprints. Why is that?
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Jun 12, 2017 20:08
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TheKingofSprings posted:Why is that? You can use the previous versions if any version is standard-legal.
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Jun 12, 2017 20:10
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TheKingofSprings posted:Why is that? I assume the point is that cards like duress potentially doesn't need to be in a current standard set because its been reprinted so many times. If it shows up in a supplementary list that makes it standard legal than a card like that would be just fine. It leaves the secondary market providing most of the cards but we are kidding ourselves if it doesn't already. I am sure a lot of cards fit that category. Its not perfect, but its an option.
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To clarify, they're talking about reprints of heavily-available core set stuff like Naturalize, Llanowar Elves, etc. being reprinted in standard-legal intro decks or whatever so they don't need to be reprinted in sets and take up card slots there. e:f,b
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The Shortest Path posted:To clarify, they're talking about reprints of heavily-available core set stuff like Naturalize, Llanowar Elves, etc. being reprinted in standard-legal intro decks or whatever so they don't need to be reprinted in sets and take up card slots there. Llanowar Elves is overpowered for standard, silly.
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