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Iron Crowned posted:My point is, it seems like you guys are already starting to get nit-picky about one cosmetic element in a game that is full of sci-fi tropes already I have nothing against a good trope. But these guys look completely generic. They are like the naavi version of Ronan the Accuser from Guardians of the Galaxy. And Ronan was, I believe, a parody of black metal aesthetics. Or maybe they're black metal Draenei instead. Only, The Chosen look super awkwardly try-hard at being badass villains. But I'm ok with the alien-human hybrids description, I'll bite. I'm very interested in this: "Soldiers, scientists, and engineers can now be deployed for Covert Actions that award supplies and boost faction favor if successfully completed." Here's to hoping those are even greater than the covert missions from XCOM:EW.
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I'm confused. Is the expansion occurring alongside the vanilla campaign or does it start after Waterworld mission?
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Heffer posted:I'm confused. Is the expansion occurring alongside the vanilla campaign or does it start after Waterworld mission? You'd think it'd be after, I guess ADVENT is still around just without the main leadership?
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Heffer posted:I'm confused. Is the expansion occurring alongside the vanilla campaign or does it start after Waterworld mission? I think it's like most Firaxis expansions where it just bolts new mechanics and gameplay concepts into the game (like the Civ expansions that add religion or whatever) and you're expected to just start a new campaign to experience the stuff. That said I wouldn't be surprised if there's a bunch of changes to the final mission or a new mission after it to act as a surprise for people who've played a whole bunch.
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Heffer posted:I'm confused. Is the expansion occurring alongside the vanilla campaign or does it start after Waterworld mission? I get the impression it enhances the vanilla campaign, like Enemy Within did.
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So which of the three factions do you reckon is the heirs of Exalt? Templars?
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Bremen posted:I get the impression it enhances the vanilla campaign, like Enemy Within did.
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Everyone wants to be XCOM these days. Even Mario.
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marshmallow creep posted:So which of the three factions do you reckon is the heirs of Exalt? Templars? Exalt never existed, remember. They were just an aspect of the aliens' simulations, seeing how X-COM would handle a more covert threat.
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Ubisoft made a Mario and rabbit xcom if you need more xcom lmfao.
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Seriously why is the first game to copy Xcom this Rabidds trash
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Elerium zombies, stupid looking anime aliens to curb stomp, soldiers that think they're Scorpion from Mortal Kombat, and SPARK buffs. Yeah, I'm hyped 
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The Ubisoft game copying Xcom has the exact same release date as Xcom 2's expansion pack.
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I just finished having a conversation about this expansion with a coworker of mine who is also a (casual) XCOM fan. During the conversation it came up that he found the second game much, much harder than the first. I also discovered in this conversation that he mostly disdains using grenadiers in favor of more assaults and snipers. I suspect these two perspectives might have some relation.
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Backhand posted:I just finished having a conversation about this expansion with a coworker of mine who is also a (casual) XCOM fan. During the conversation it came up that he found the second game much, much harder than the first. I feel xcom2 is harder than eu/ew, I made liberal use of explosives and all that jazz. Addendum to that though: Victory is (generally) assured much earlier in xcom2, whereas, in EU/EW, I feel it took a little extra time, not much mind you, but still a little more time needed to pass. Though it has been a while since I played EW.
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Xcom 2 is absolutely harder than EW. Every balance issue present in Xcom 2 was in EW too. Rocketers are just as good as grenadiers.
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Bogart posted:i'm goin'g to gently caress a spark not if I beat you to it!
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I found EW a bit too easy on classic but too hard on impossible, so I mostly played ironman classic. I had to drop the difficulty to easy to beat XCOM 2 for the first time. It's hard. Yes, I used grenadiers. My A-team had 2 of them.
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Rewatching the trailer, If this is going to be a Friaxis standard expansion then the final fight with the chosen looks like it'll take place during Operation Leviathan as a murderous showdown with all three of them.
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I found X-Com 2 to be the easier game, especially once you got a higher-level psionic dude. Mind Control was basically an "I win!" button.
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lmao if you aren't down with new aliens looking dumb as gently caress, Avatars looking stupid is what makes it so incredibly satisfying to shotgun them
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Ornamented Death posted:I found X-Com 2 to be the easier game, especially once you got a higher-level psionic dude. Mind Control was basically an "I win!" button. By the time you can get a psi unit in XCom2 you'd be at the part in Xcom1 where nothing is threatening and your squad is stomping everything in to paste. Pharmaskittle posted:lmao if you aren't down with new aliens looking dumb as gently caress, Avatars looking stupid is what makes it so incredibly satisfying to shotgun them Its like getting to kill a Super Saiyan with a gun.
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Internet Kraken posted:By the time you can get a psi unit in XCom2 you'd be at the part in Xcom1 where nothing is threatening and your squad is stomping everything in to paste. You can get psi units pretty quick if you know/stumble into the right tech tree, and after that it's just a matter of a bit of luck to have MC show up as the first option from that tier. In my last campaign I had a MC-capable psi unit well before the halfway point of the game.
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Internet Kraken posted:Its like getting to kill a Super Saiyan with a gun. I have unlimited psychic potential! You pathetic humans canno- *Point blank shotgun blast to the face*
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Pharmaskittle posted:lmao if you aren't down with new aliens looking dumb as gently caress, Avatars looking stupid is what makes it so incredibly satisfying to shotgun them Well I guess they're gonna be very satisfying to shotgun if you wanna explode Star Trek aliens. Man, they look really dumb, I'm sorry. I'm rewatching the trailer and they look so loving stupid talking really dumb lame stuff in English to the camera.
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Like anyone didn't kill the Uber Ethereal with a blaster bomb followed by a double tap sniper.
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I hope we get to put the new aliens in to a Blend-o-matic to juice the elerium out of them.
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Andre Banzai posted:Well I guess they're gonna be very satisfying to shotgun if you wanna explode Star Trek aliens. I like em, mostly warlock, even when they are talking.  Pharmaskittle posted:lmao if you aren't down with new aliens looking dumb as gently caress, Avatars looking stupid is what makes it so incredibly satisfying to shotgun them Caros posted:I have unlimited psychic potential! You pathetic humans canno- *Point blank shotgun blast to the face* The correct attitude. Cythereal posted:Like anyone didn't kill the Uber Ethereal with a blaster bomb followed by a double tap sniper. The correctest attitude. 
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"At last! A true battle!" I can pinpoint my disappointment to this exact scene here. The alien in LOTUS POSITION, saying that stupid line in English, looking dumb as hell with the most generic fantasy line ever. And then, the Draenei-Beast guy comes in and it's also so completely freaking generic, holy crap. ANYWAY, I have faith in Jake Solomon. COME ON, JAKE.
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I hope they add the ability for the boltcaster to stake enemies to nearby walls
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The only way to kill the Uber-Ethereal was with a punch while shouting WELCOME TO EARF, you loving heathens
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Bolow posted:I hope they add the ability for the boltcaster to stake enemies to nearby walls Combine the bolt with a big balloon so you have a fulton recovery system and can recover corpses in Long War.
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Mr.Pibbleton posted:I hope this doesn't break my Sparking pugilist mod. I'll fix up my punch-SPARKS so long as the guy that made the SPARK class selection thing updates it.
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Can someone tell me when Andre's stopped whining? Me personally, I'm looking forwards to stomping the poo poo outta some smug WoW aliens.
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Eh, he has a fair point. They come off at first glance as fairly cringe-y standard issue sci-fi dogmatic aliens. But yes, it's way too early to make any real judgements based off a two-minute cinematic trailer, and corny can still be good if it's done right.
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Caros posted:I have unlimited psychic potential! You pathetic humans canno- *Point blank shotgun blast to the face* Basically the Xcom equivalent of this.
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Backhand posted:Eh, he has a fair point. They come off at first glance as fairly cringe-y standard issue sci-fi dogmatic aliens. Thank you. And I know it's early. I believe in this expansion, actually. But some people seem to feel uncomfortable with criticism (I understand, I love the franchise too). But anyway, it's just, like... my opinion, man. And I don't get it, are they just improving on the Alien Rulers formula? I mean... *sigh*... But I think it's gonna be fun. A whole lot of details to be unveiled still. VolticSurge posted:Can someone tell me when Andre's stopped whining? Me personally, I'm looking forwards to stomping the poo poo outta some smug WoW aliens. If Draenei had joined the Horde Andre Banzai fucked around with this message at 23:34 on Jun 12, 2017 |
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I don't mind the villains in Xcom spouting corny, generic dialogue because I get to follow it up with a shotgun blast to the face. If these guys were on your side it'd be irritating but they are big assholes you get to blow up. I want to hate their guts. The Xcom games have never been about ~deep~ stories anyways and just embracing what makes fighting aliens awesome.
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I'm hoping these new alien leaders are different enough (or effect the Geoscape enough) to cause you to shift research priorities, change tactics in the medium term, etc, depending on who shows up when. If they all three show up midgame and the campaign plays roughly the same every time, that'll be disappointing. edit: and also yes they look doofy as hell
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