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Many games already offer nuanced and challenging social commentary so it feels like we're having this conversation 10 years ago. I mean you're not going to find it in an Ubisoft game but that's kind of by design.
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CJacobs posted:It's more about what's feasible than what's possible. Yeah it's probably possible to make a nuanced story so complex that it provides an interesting social commentary and a message that can be easily understood while also saying a lot of poignant stuff. But it's not feasible because the game only has a small amount of time/space to deliver that message to you, not to mention the skill it'd take to implement such a message. as they say, rome wasn't built in a day. it's not like they'll start making this sort of game tomorrow, but there are clear attempts at attempting to better the medium, and i believe they'll keep working at it. and not all social commentaries need to be deep af or anything. look at the new wolfenstein games for instance. "nazis should be shot" isn't particularly hard to do but it is nevertheless correct
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I mean you could really ask the same question about a lot of blockbuster movies- why is the writing not better? because it kinda doesn't matter for what they're trying to accomplish with the project I guess. Nobody is gonna give a poo poo if like Transformers 5 or whatever has stellar, thoughtfully written and well-delivered dialogue and a masterfully connected overarching story that makes a genuine emotional connection with its audience. There are a lot of indie games that kinda fill that niche now yeah? Just the bigger projects seem to kinda not care about it more often than not
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Jun 12, 2017 18:11
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precision posted:My face when I suddenly realize that there is inevitably going to be a movie about the Minecraft story Hopefully not until Masters of Doom is made as a prestigious Oscar-bait biopic.
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Jun 12, 2017 18:21
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Guy Mann posted:Hopefully not until Masters of Doom is made as a prestigious Oscar-bait biopic. i would love this
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Monkey Fracas posted:I mean you could really ask the same question about a lot of blockbuster movies- why is the writing not better? because it kinda doesn't matter for what they're trying to accomplish with the project I guess. Nobody is gonna give a poo poo if like Transformers 5 or whatever has stellar, thoughtfully written and well-delivered dialogue and a masterfully connected overarching story that makes a genuine emotional connection with its audience. Yeah this basically how I feel. Big studio games don't tell great stories because they don't want to tell great stories. That isn't their aim (usually). For them the writing is just something that facilitates whatever it is they want to do with their game from a play perspective. They don't take risks on the writing, and a result they don't make gems or turds very often. It's the indies and small studios that takes risks. They produce the gems, but they also produce a lot of trash. If you are looking for great or innovative writing in games the way to find is sifting for the diamonds in the rough from the small productions.
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exquisite tea posted:Well in the first game we saw a butterfly come to symbolize Max's branching realities through rewinding time, aka the butterfly effect. This game appears to prominently feature a raven, which are commonly associated with prophecy in many cultures. So maybe the gimmick of this game will be seeing glimpses into the future and trying to figure out how your decisions in the present will affect them. Who knows! Coming back to this again but the more I think about it it kind of makes sense. Max at the start of Life is Strange is insecure and socially awkward so giving her the ability to literally take back her mistakes fits with her character. Chloe, meanwhile, is impulsive and bitter about the past so her having some kind of means to predict the future would be pretty fitting as well. Not that it'd help much considering where she is in her life at the start of the main game but it's a neat idea. Besides, it's a game about choices so they don't necessarily have to be locked into following the continuity to the letter, maybe toss in a few alternate endings to mix things up a bit.
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Jun 12, 2017 18:29
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i wish jedi outcast could be consistently fun, instead of following up every fun moment with "and now here's a million enemies you will never want to bother with killing who slowly chip off your health and shoot through your lightsaber" it makes me appreciate how most of jedi academy was lightsaber duels
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Jun 12, 2017 18:44
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CJacobs posted:Dayy #51524526 of continuing to play video games without paying attention to a single word said by the creators of video games: I am still fat, dumb, and happy, and gosh darn it I like it that way get this motherfucker: the devs words, are already in the game
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Jun 12, 2017 19:00
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Clearly the solution is to make your message so overt as to make a dragon of racism for you to vanquish. an actual plot point from a Tales game
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The Colonel posted:i wish jedi outcast could be consistently fun, instead of following up every fun moment with "and now here's a million enemies you will never want to bother with killing who slowly chip off your health and shoot through your lightsaber" Yea, there's some questionable level design in Outcast.
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http://i.imgur.com/HyX0eKG.gifv edit: Wrong thread but I'm leaving it
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Jun 12, 2017 19:09
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oh, drat, you can't get much earlier than that!
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lol Best bit of Rev 2
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glam rock hamhock posted:Tom Hardy as John Romero please Michael Fassbender as John Carmack Diego Luna as Adrian Carmack Shia LaBeouf as Tom Hall Michael Shannon as Scott Miller Brie Larson as Brenda Brathwaite
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The Colonel posted:i wish jedi outcast could be consistently fun, instead of following up every fun moment with "and now here's a million enemies you will never want to bother with killing who slowly chip off your health and shoot through your lightsaber" There's some incredibly bad levels in that game and it's why I usually just replay Academy instead.
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Sakurazuka posted:lol Best bit of Rev 2 Claire owns
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Phantasium posted:Clearly the solution is to make your message so overt as to make a dragon of racism for you to vanquish. please petition bamco to release tales of rebirth in english
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Looper posted:oh, drat, you can't get much earlier than that! Earliest Xccess eXclusive to XB1X
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Everybody thought that you win E3 by showing actual games but Devolver shot the moon and won by not showing any new games at all
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glam rock hamhock posted:Anyways, my plans for the day are to go to my local cinema and see the new Alien movie and then see the Sony Press Conference. Will today be a day of joy, horrible disappointment or and interesting combination of both? Only time will tell! my plans for today are http://420.moe/
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Jun 12, 2017 19:31
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Hell persona 5 was a critique of Japanese culture and politics
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glam rock hamhock posted:Tom Hardy as John Romero please  Yesh Batman, I will make you my bish
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drat, I only now caught up with Devolver's E3 conference, it's great.
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Jun 12, 2017 20:44
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I actually didn't like the devolver press conference. It felt like it was trying too hard. However, I'm glad that other people enjoyed it.
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They tried hard but went all the way and were 100% into it and it paid off, it's like a little theatre piece, I really liked it. Also for an expo conference format it's definitely one for the books.
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Chomp8645 posted:Trying too hard is the entire purpose of E3. Well yeah, but when speakers in the other press conferences try too hard to be funny, everyone just kind of cringes, but because devolver put some effort in, it suddenly makes it one of the highlights of the e3? Maybe I just went in with the wrong expectations, since people were saying it was like something out of Eric Andre. Instead, I tuned in and saw fake amateur wrestling and a segment with what looked like someone related to twitch? It felt like Kung fury, in that it just didn't hit the right notes with me. They do deserve props though for having 12 hours of footage.
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glam rock hamhock posted:Here thread, have some anime glam rock hamhock posted:Yep, and the girl in the upper left corner is the main character from Code of Princess (if you remember that game) I like some of the games these characters are from but I don't like this at all.
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The overnight stream was cool but this was the best part https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqPT9hyPANs
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Poops Mcgoots posted:Instead, I tuned in and saw fake amateur wrestling and a segment with what looked like someone related to twitch?
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Poops Mcgoots posted:Well yeah, but when speakers in the other press conferences try too hard to be funny, everyone just kind of cringes, but because devolver put some effort in, it suddenly makes it one of the highlights of the e3? That was the Twitch show. Devolvers is like 15 minutes.
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precision posted:My face when I suddenly realize that there is inevitably going to be a movie about the Minecraft story You mean this doesn't count? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2nb_zAElJI I got this free in some humble bundle and I watched maybe 5 minutes.
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Yeah the twitch pre pre show was load of hot garbage but the Devolver "conference" was great
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