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Joe Lacob would love a game 6. He gets like 12 million from seat revenue alone per home game.
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Tae posted:Joe Lacob would love a game 6. He gets like 12 million from seat revenue alone per home game. 5 beers a head
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Cool Buff Man posted:5
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pretty sure warriors_fan.jpg was holding some kind of mixed drink
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Cool Buff Man posted:5
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Tae posted:Joe Lacob would love a game 6. He gets like 12 million from seat revenue alone per home game. game 6 would be played at cleveland though
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if the cavs win the series i was gonna get a cavs jersey with durant's name on it but they won't let me use durant's name 
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Tae posted:Joe Lacob would love a game 6. He gets like 12 million from seat revenue alone per home game. Yes, this makes alot of sense: let's risk losing in the Finals AGAIN in epic fashion, and give up on all the revenue from being remembered as a legendarily great team, just so I can make an extra $12 million dollars, when I'm already a multi-billionaire who spends $12 million each month just on gas for my fleet of Ferrari's. Oh, and we only get half (60% as the home team?) of that revenue anyway. Perfect sense. Oh, and as mentioned, Game 6 would be played in Cleveland anyway. In non-conspiracy land, very very few NBA owners are owners because they need to make money from the team. The Warriors are hugely profitable without trying to extend series artificially. This is a terrible argument. The B_36 fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Jun 12, 2017 |
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Jun 12, 2017 23:50
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LeBron is under contract for next year, right?
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The B_36 posted:In non-conspiracy land, very very few NBA owners are owners because they need to make money from the team. The Warriors are hugely profitable without trying to extend series artificially. This is a terrible argument. Rich people never do shady things to make more money.
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The B_36 posted:Yes, this makes alot of sense: let's risk losing in the Finals AGAIN in epic fashion, and give up on all the revenue from being remembered as a legendarily great team, just so I can make an extra $12 million dollars, when I'm already a multi-billionaire who spends $12 million each month just on gas for my fleet of Ferrari's. Oh, and we only get half (60% as the home team?) of that revenue anyway. Not that I agree with the original sentiment, but I think you are drastically underestimating the irrational+self destructive greed of modern billionaires.
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The B_36 posted:Perfect sense. You're not tapping into the mindset of billionaire sports team owners or the league at all. No amount of money will ever be enough. None of these guys who buy sports teams remotely NEED them. There are billionaires out there who are perfectly content to sit on their money anonymously and increase it conservatively in a variety of boring ways. Then there are guys out there who are billionaires and are lamenting that they're not trillionaires.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:LeBron is under contract for next year, right? 3 year 100mil with the last being a player option I think
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Lockback posted:Rich people never do shady things to make more money. Redgrendel2001 posted:Not that I agree with the original sentiment, but I think you are drastically underestimating the irrational+self destructive greed of modern billionaires. Zogo posted:You're not tapping into the mindset of billionaire sports team owners or the league at all. No amount of money will ever be enough. None of this is evidence of anything. As in every other conspiracy, just because it is possible that something shady CAN happen, that doesn't mean you should assume that something shady IS happening. Yes, yes, I know, "open your eyes sheeple!" and all that, but that isn't a good argument either guys. edit: as for billionaires wanting to become trillionaires, if that's the case, they're all smart enough to know that fixing games for the sports team play thing isn't the most effective way of doing it - they'd do it with something boring that isn't on national TV with tens of millions of people watching and analyzing it, like stock manipulation. The ultra rich often aren't motivated by "money" in the same way that we are. They use money as a measuring stick against they're fellow billionaire friends and rivals. Winning championships with the hottest team in the league is just as good bragging rights as having another $100 million in the bank. The B_36 fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...eland-cavaliers Smh. Eat the rich
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Remember 2 years ago how that first Cavs/Warriors Finals went 7 games because the owners are so greedy this stuff is so easy to see
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I seem to remember a lockout of players with more than half of teams claiming they were losing money each year. They're parasites and they'll take whatever they can get. I think Golden State will play too well for the Refs to change the outcome, and this series will end tonight. Give the Cavs 7 more points and they'll still probably lose Then we get to relax in the peace and quiet of free agent rumors which will tide us over until we get to see real basketball again, at summer league orlando on July first
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Dejan Bimble posted:
Actually we get to spend two weeks arguing about Harden and Westbrook.
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Dejan Bimble posted:I seem to remember a lockout of players with more than half of teams claiming they were losing money each year. They're parasites and they'll take whatever they can get. The lockout is a completely different situation, that was a contract negotiation, we're talking about clearly illegal game fixing. Just because you want more money from your boss at work during performance reviews doesn't mean you'd just as easily rob a convenience store for cash. I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure during the lockout that the teams who were then considered contenders had owners who weren't quite as vocal or willing to risk the season over the CBA, regardless of their financial situation, because they want their team to secure them bragging rights by winning. They're definitely greedy, just not necessarily for an extra $10mil And, is Summer League considered "real" basketball? The B_36 fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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Lockback posted:Whiteside had a negative BPM too. Tony Parker had a negative BPM in 13-14 when he drove the best NBA Finals team I've ever seen in my entire life. A bunch of really good players have put up negative BPM seasons, it's actually not really that good of a stat to use in that context. ha ha ha ha ha thank you Lockback for the invitation to talk some more poo poo about Melo, my favorite pastime. First off--total agreement. He's far from replacement level--far far worse. A replacement level player doesn't swallows up cap space that could be used for some players who don't singlehandedly lose games by playing like assholes. A replacement-level player would be benched if he defended as poorly as Melo does. And he's been getting worse every year for a few years now. I also kinda think BPM is working for those counterexamples? Whiteside has a negative BPM because it (correctly) describes what a black hole he is on the offense, which hasn't quite been outmatched by what he does on defense. Also his BPM was positive the season before last. And I dunno if I'd give credit to TP for driving that 13-14 squad. Everybody on that team was playing amazing. He's a hot/cold PG who doesn't play much defense, especially for a Spur. And he coasts in the regular season like a bunch of ring-carrying vets tend to do. He was one of the only dudes on that squad who wasn't/isn't a two-way player. He also had some fairly abysmal games during that run where the team won despite him.
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The B_36 posted:And, is Summer League considered "real" basketball? He probably meant Big 3! Debuts on June 25th, less than two weeks now, in Brooklyn, New York City, a basketball city that once produced legends like Dr J. and Kareem Abdul Jabbar but now produces Sebastian Telfair and Lance Stephenson smdh
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Man, if you don't like Summer League, there's no hope for you, it's the NCAA tournament of the NBA, you are vaguely familiar with 1/4 of the guys and they're playing sloppy as all hell, but they want it bad
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The games can be weird and low-stakes because the players are sort of competing against their own team harder than they are competing against the opposite team and nobody is trying much on defense. It's anti-friendship ball, and it's usually more of a scouting exercise more than a competitive game of basketball (which is fun for me, but not exactly the same as watching a good game of Ball). Whereas Big3 is going to have 50 year old Mahmoud Abdul Rauf scoring 40 points a game as if the rim were no rim and all net https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXGRNGWNk0I
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The best thing about Summer League is it's really easy to dip in and out of it all day long in a period where almost nothing is happening in the entire world.
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Dejan Bimble posted:Man, if you don't like Summer League, there's no hope for you, it's the NCAA tournament of the NBA, you are vaguely familiar with 1/4 of the guys and they're playing sloppy as all hell, but they want it bad Well, that part kinda turns me off then.
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Another good thing is once in a while someone like Adam Morrison shows up even though he's been in the league six years and just loving destroys future all-NBA pre-rookies.
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EvanTH posted:The games can be weird and low-stakes because the players are sort of competing against their own team harder than they are competing against the opposite team and nobody is trying much on defense. It's anti-friendship ball, and it's usually more of a scouting exercise more than a competitive game of basketball (which is fun for me, but not exactly the same as watching a good game of Ball). I'm afraid The Big 3 is going to be won by the youngest team with the smallest amount of pro minutes so they still have knee and ankle cartilage and will disappoint everyone watching out of nostalgia for the days of old Rick posted:Another good thing is once in a while someone like Adam Morrison shows up even though he's been in the league six years and just loving destroys future all-NBA pre-rookies. The best is knowing a guy is at least an end of roster NBA player because he puts up 50 points a game and effortlessly dominates both ends of the floor Also, JORDAIR JETT IS BACK, Ferrakohn Hall too https://www.thetournament.com/teams/majerus-slu-crew-saint-louis-alumni?type=fan&f=58ec50fc908bc333508947 Dejan Bimble fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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Summer league is where our oldest myths are born.
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EvanTH posted:I also kinda think BPM is working for those counterexamples? Whiteside has a negative BPM because it (correctly) describes what a black hole he is on the offense, which hasn't quite been outmatched by what he does on defense. Also his BPM was positive the season before last. Carmelo had a positive BPM last season (higher than Whitesides!) and the season before that, etc. If 1 negative BPM should be disregarded for Whiteside so should it be for Carmelo. Melo's team is crap and he's not good enough by himself to turn it around, most players wouldn't be.
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Dejan Bimble posted:Man, if you don't like Summer League, there's no hope for you, it's the NCAA tournament of the NBA, you are vaguely familiar with 1/4 of the guys and they're playing sloppy as all hell, but they want it bad Summer league to NBA addicts is similar to resin hits for potheads. Not what they actually want, kind of gets the job done, and ultimately not as good as what they really want.
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Spacebump posted:Summer league to NBA addicts is similar to resin hits for potheads. Not what they actually want, kind of gets the job done, and ultimately not as good as what they really want. Except that one time all your hitting is the crystal residue and you get so hosed up. Aka Anthony Randolph
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Dejan Bimble posted:I'm afraid The Big 3 is going to be won by the youngest team with the smallest amount of pro minutes so they still have knee and ankle cartilage and will disappoint everyone watching out of nostalgia for the days of old I guess I'm moving to St. Louis.
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TBeats posted:if the cavs win the series i was gonna get a cavs jersey with durant's name on it but they won't let me use durant's name Duraint Uh oh I've created a rivals pun or unknowingly used one that exists.
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btw totally preemptive but is 3-0 pronounced "three-none" to rhyme with "three-one"?
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https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3823496 The belated jimmy falcon gdt is up
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https://twitter.com/SInow/status/874417987427590144 Oh
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i like the last name only answer, like he's an oft-quoted author or something
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The B_36 posted:The lockout is a completely different situation, that was a contract negotiation, we're talking about clearly illegal game fixing. Just because you want more money from your boss at work during performance reviews doesn't mean you'd just as easily rob a convenience store for cash. I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure during the lockout that the teams who were then considered contenders had owners who weren't quite as vocal or willing to risk the season over the CBA, regardless of their financial situation, because they want their team to secure them bragging rights by winning. They're definitely greedy, just not necessarily for an extra $10mil you don't order a fix, like wells fargo didn' order fraud. you just send a memo saying you noticed x and y, and it happens. your pride argument contradicts that negotiate to minimize risk thing. Femur fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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EvanTH posted:ha ha ha ha ha thank you Lockback for the invitation to talk some more poo poo about Melo, my favorite pastime. First off--total agreement. He's far from replacement level--far far worse. A replacement level player doesn't swallows up cap space that could be used for some players who don't singlehandedly lose games by playing like assholes. A replacement-level player would be benched if he defended as poorly as Melo does. And he's been getting worse every year for a few years now. He's now solidly in the >20 ppg and <.100 WS/48 club. Andrew Wiggins says hello
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