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Guy Goodbody posted:Alien 3 loving sucks, dude These are incorrect assessments
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Guy Goodbody posted:Alien 3 loving sucks, dude No.
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Jun 13, 2017 02:14
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watch out, we're getting some CineD in here
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Jun 13, 2017 02:54
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:You can always tell a Milford man.
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Jun 13, 2017 03:00
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All that's important is that we all acknowledge that Alien: Resurrection is terrible.
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Jun 13, 2017 03:05
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Resurrection made a whole lot more sense when I found out it was made by the guy who did Delicatessen.
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Jun 13, 2017 03:08
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knowing that it was written by Jos Whedon explains everything
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Jun 13, 2017 03:20
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starkebn posted:knowing that it was written by Jos Whedon explains everything Supposedly it got rewritten a lot. Whedon is a fine writer, everyone just hates him because he spawned a wave of imitators who can't pull off his trick as well.
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Jun 13, 2017 03:24
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WampaLord posted:Supposedly it got rewritten a lot. I liked Firefly, but his style doesn't fit everywhere
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Jun 13, 2017 03:26
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Cabin in the Woods is basically the most Joss Whedon film possible and also the only film that actually really suits his writing/directing style.
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Jun 13, 2017 03:26
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starkebn posted:I liked Firefly, but his style doesn't fit everywhere I agree, I think Whedon himself is good at knowing where his style works, but the trend he created doesn't have such knowledge.
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Jun 13, 2017 03:28
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WampaLord posted:he spawned a wave of imitators who can't pull off his trick as well. like who? serious question
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Jun 13, 2017 03:31
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WampaLord posted:Supposedly it got rewritten a lot. It wasn't an imitator who wrote Alien Resurrection and Avengers.
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Jun 13, 2017 03:34
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Literally the only good thing Joss Whedon ever made, writing or directing, was Cabin in the Woods.
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Jun 13, 2017 03:37
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Alien: woman goes through violent sexual trauma, escapes, defeats her attacker, and even saves the cat Aliens: The woman discovers that even though she survived, she's still traumatized, and literally goes back to face her fear, and literally destroys the literal source of her trauma. In doing so she builds a new family for herself Alien 3: lol gently caress all that, she's literally ruined for the rest of her short life, her family died, she's pregnant with a rape baby, and the only way out is abortion via suicide. Alien 3 is a massive tonal misstep that completely fucks over Ripley's entire character arc, shits on the previous movies, and turns what was an extremely progressive message about rape survivors into an incredibly regressive message about rape victims.
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Jun 13, 2017 03:38
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Literally the only good thing Joss Whedon ever made, writing or directing, was Cabin in the Woods. He wrote 4 episodes of Roseanne. Someone please get their DVDs out and confirm if they are good and weird episodes of Roseanne.
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Jun 13, 2017 03:38
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Literally the only good thing Joss Whedon ever made, writing or directing, was Cabin in the Woods. Buddy the vampire slayer is a work of art
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Jun 13, 2017 03:40
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Giga Gaia posted:He wrote 4 episodes of Roseanne. Someone please get their DVDs out and confirm if they are good and weird episodes of Roseanne. Just pulled up imdb. They were more than likely terrible episodes late in the show. Also I had no idea he was a writer on Toy Story. So CitW and Toy Story are the only times he made something good.
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Jun 13, 2017 03:40
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WampaLord posted:All that's important is that we all acknowledge that Alien: Resurrection is terrible. I have a weird soft spot for one or two parts of it.
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Jun 13, 2017 03:43
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Also I had no idea he was a writer on Toy Story. Joss sat there getting berated by John Lasseter. He will receive no credit for Toy Story in my hate filled mind.
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Jun 13, 2017 03:44
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naem posted:Buddy the vampire slayer is a work of art  Cubone posted:like who? Every "quippy" Marvel movie that wasn't written by him. Like whatever hack wrote Doctor Strange, for example, where the concept of Beyonce is a punchline. Say what you will about Whedon, his jokes are at least jokes. Jonas Albrecht posted:It wasn't an imitator who wrote Alien Resurrection and Avengers. Avengers is good 
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Jun 13, 2017 03:48
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someone rename the thread "Be a Jay, Not a Josh", thanks.
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Jun 13, 2017 03:50
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He didn't direct Cabin either.
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Jun 13, 2017 03:50
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Guy Goodbody posted:Alien: woman goes through violent sexual trauma, escapes, defeats her attacker, and even saves the cat So... You are unhappy the horror franchise didn't stick to the optimistic bits?
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Jun 13, 2017 03:53
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Guy Goodbody posted:Alien: woman goes through violent sexual trauma, escapes, defeats her attacker, and even saves the cat Yikes.
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Jun 13, 2017 03:54
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They really should rename face huggers to mouth rapers.
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Jun 13, 2017 03:59
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reignofevil posted:So... You are unhappy the horror franchise didn't stick to the optimistic bits? You mean the resolution of the first and second movies? The first movie tells a story. The second movie tells a similar story, and they fit together as a good story together. The third movie veers off wildly
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Jun 13, 2017 04:01
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Now that I think about it, face hugger is an adorable name for a horror monster. Look out, the tummy tickler is in the ventilation shaft!
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Jun 13, 2017 04:04
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If a face hugger attached to a person's vagina, would the alien life cycle still be viable? I want a vag burster scene. Make it happen James Cameron. Space Taxi fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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Jun 13, 2017 04:16
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Space Taxi posted:Now that I think about it, face hugger is an adorable name for a horror monster.  scream, scream for your lives
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Jun 13, 2017 04:18
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Space Taxi posted:I want a vag burster scene. Make it happen James Cameron. he's busy making 17 Avatar sequels although maybe he's making a James Cameron Cinematic Universe, who knows
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Jun 13, 2017 04:20
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Just pulled up imdb. IIRC was a writer on a bad early draft of Toy Story where they were all unlikable shitbags, especially Woody.
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Jun 13, 2017 04:21
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Veshpo posted:IIRC was a writer on a bad early draft of Toy Story where they were all unlikable shitbags, especially Woody. That sounds about right.
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Jun 13, 2017 04:24
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Guy Goodbody posted:You mean the resolution of the first and second movies? The first movie tells a story. The second movie tells a similar story, and they fit together as a good story together. The third movie veers off wildly Yes the resolution to the first and second. You would have preferred the third was more of the same? And also was inspiring? For the horror franchise?
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Jun 13, 2017 04:24
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Alien 3 is that life will always end in pain and misery and you should just accept it.
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Jun 13, 2017 04:27
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I would have preferred no more of the same after Aliens and just let the franchise end there
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Jun 13, 2017 04:28
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reignofevil posted:Yes the resolution to the first and second. Why do you keep saying horror franchise? Why does that matter? The first two movies were about a woman surviving and overcoming rape, essentially. The third movie throws that all into the garbage and just has her kill herself because she can never escape her traumatic past. That's not a fact of horror franchises. I'm pretty sure Scream 3 didn't end with the main chick doing an abortion via suicide. That's not an inescapable staple of the genre.
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Jun 13, 2017 04:28
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It's a staple of the Alien franchise, actually
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Jun 13, 2017 04:30
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Guy Goodbody posted:Why do you keep saying horror franchise? Why does that matter? The first two movies were about a woman surviving and overcoming rape, essentially. The third movie throws that all into the garbage and just has her kill herself because she can never escape her traumatic past. That's not a fact of horror franchises. I'm pretty sure Scream 3 didn't end with the main chick doing an abortion via suicide. That's not an inescapable staple of the genre. Sometimes in horror movies unpleasant things and themes happen tho right?
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RAPE guys, it was about RAPE. She went from being RAPED to being ULTRA RAPED. RAAAAAAAAPE!!
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