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https://twitter.com/thehill/status/874482989387960321 MAD DOG doesn't like FnF huh?
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pillsburysoldier posted:https://twitter.com/thehill/status/874482989387960321 He doesn't want to be used as a political tool. I think it's pretty obvious that he doesn't like Trump very much, and wants to do the bare minimum to keep his department functioning while everything else turns to poo poo.
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Jun 13, 2017 06:06
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https://twitter.com/JohnWDean/status/874480915774226432 Thunderdome USA. 
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Jun 13, 2017 06:07
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pillsburysoldier posted:https://twitter.com/thehill/status/874482989387960321 Regardless of political affiliation this man is a true patriot.
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Jun 13, 2017 06:09
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pillsburysoldier posted:https://twitter.com/thehill/status/874482989387960321 Good for him. Mattis seems like the only decent person in that entire Cabinet.
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Jun 13, 2017 06:10
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That the most decent person in his cabinet is an actual war criminal is loving insane.
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Jun 13, 2017 06:23
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pillsburysoldier posted:https://twitter.com/thehill/status/874482989387960321 Watching Mattis that that cabinet meeting where everyone was praising trump was also pretty hilarious. Mattis looks like he wants to get out of his chair to get away from Trump and he doesn't compliment the president like everyone else. All he has to do to 'win' this administration is not say some dumb poo poo and resign if forced.
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Jun 13, 2017 06:24
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"Retired Gen. James Mattis earned the nickname “Mad Dog” for leading U.S. Marines into battle in Fallujah, Iraq, in April 2004. In that assault, members of the Marine Corps, under Mattis’ command, shot at ambulances and aid workers. They cordoned off the city, preventing civilians from escaping. They posed for trophy photos with the people they killed. In the years since, Mattis – called a “warrior monk” by his supporters – repeatedly has protected American service members who killed civilians, using his status as a division commander to wipe away criminal charges against Marines accused of massacring 24 Iraqi civilians in Haditha in 2005 and granting clemency to some of those convicted in connection with the 2006 murder of a 52-year-old disabled Iraqi, who was taken outside his home and shot in the face four times."
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Jun 13, 2017 06:25
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What's the betting on when Trump will fire Muller, and how many levels of the Justice Department will he need go down to find someone to do it? My non-money is next Tuesday, and Sessions will do the dirty work.
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Jun 13, 2017 06:40
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Comstar posted:What's the betting on when Trump will fire Muller, and how many levels of the Justice Department will he need go down to find someone to do it? If its being talked about now. Last time something similar happened it was before the end of the week.
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Jun 13, 2017 06:43
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Thursday night I'll guess. Friday's aren't good days for excitement.
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Jun 13, 2017 06:48
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It actually may be why Trump is rumored to be angry at Sessions. Sessions won't just fire Mueller.
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Jun 13, 2017 06:54
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Ice Phisherman posted:It actually may be why Trump is rumored to be angry at Sessions. Sessions won't just fire Mueller. Trump got mad when Sessions recused himself from the Russia investigation a few months back.
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Jun 13, 2017 06:57
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Ice Phisherman posted:It actually may be why Trump is rumored to be angry at Sessions. Sessions won't just fire Mueller. If he fires both of them it will be a 1:1 repeat of the Saturday Night Massacre.
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Jun 13, 2017 06:58
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Mantis42 posted:If he fires both of them it will be a 1:1 repeat of the Saturday Night Massacre. That sound you here is everyone in the thread popping a huge boner.
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Jun 13, 2017 07:04
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glowing-fish posted:The text of the amendment makes no mention of the CAUSE of the inability, just that the inability is there. The law doesn't give the power to diagnose that inability to a doctor, or make a medical cause necessary. It says that if over half of the cabinet and two-thirds of both houses of congress say that there is an inability, then there is. I excessively enjoy bringing this up, but by the wording of the 25th Pence doesn't technically need a legislative supermajority, he just needs a Cabinet majority to support him repeatedly transmitting a declaration of Trump's incapacity every time Congress clears Trump.  It's not even a constitutional crisis, the Constitution is quite clear.
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pillsburysoldier posted:
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Jun 13, 2017 07:24
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Ice Phisherman posted:It actually may be why Trump is rumored to be angry at Sessions. Sessions won't just fire Mueller. Firing Mueller isn't up to Sessions, it's up to Rosenstein.
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Jun 13, 2017 07:35
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What if Sessions is trying to explain that, and Trump is getting angrier that he's not doing it? 
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Jun 13, 2017 07:44
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I Am Not Spor posted:Firing Mueller isn't up to Sessions, it's up to Rosenstein. I don't think *Trump* knows that. From his point of view the Boss tells the sub-boss who to fire, you don't ask the sub-sub-boss to do it. Be that as it may, we're hearing accusations against Muller now. We'd hear about problems with Rosenstein if Trump was having problems telling him to do it. Have we heard anything on FoxNews about Rosenstein lately?
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Jun 13, 2017 07:44
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Sinteres posted:It would probably be worse just because healthcare expenses have continued to climb dramatically, even though that's not Obamacare's fault. It's capitalism's fault. I'm generally pro capitalism (with a robust welfare state), but it clearly has no answers to healthcare. Why are you pro capitalism if it is incapable of keeping people alive?
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Jun 13, 2017 08:06
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Orange Devil posted:Why are you pro capitalism if it is incapable of keeping people alive? Life is cheap
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Jun 13, 2017 08:07
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Orange Devil posted:Why are you pro capitalism if it is incapable of keeping people alive? Ah you too are under the mistaken impression that people need medical care to not die.
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Jun 13, 2017 08:17
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VitalSigns posted:Ah you too are under the mistaken impression that people need medical care to not die. User name checks out. Snark aside: there are 3mil people in this country with type 1 diabetes. If 1/10 of them lose access to healthcare that's 300k bodies reeking of acetone. Mustached Demon fucked around with this message at 08:24 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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Jun 13, 2017 08:19
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Orange Devil posted:Why are you pro capitalism if it is incapable of keeping people alive? Capitalism can be made compatible with some things that aren't capitalism and can solve the problems that capitalism can't. We just need willingness to taint capitalism and reduce it to a small part of a hybrid.
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Jun 13, 2017 08:28
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Reality is truly strange when Charlie Sheen was the voice of reason about Trump: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp6BIDCZRic&t=69s
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Jun 13, 2017 08:28
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Mustached Demon posted:User name checks out. Oh, but that's just 'some' dead people, no worries! Hey, remember how we had that derail a while back about mental healthcare? Guess what's often the first thing to get cut when healthcare budgets tighten? So on top of all of the people who will directly die from sudden loss of healthcare access, you will also have all the people who have mental healthcare needs who can no longer afford treatment (which is, of course, loving expensive, like everything else), be that counselling or medication, suddenly going without. And lemme tell you, it's super awesome fun times when you can't afford the medication that keeps you from wanting to drown yourself in a ditch, especially when you're going through withdrawal too.
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Jun 13, 2017 08:33
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kartikeya posted:Oh, but that's just 'some' dead people, no worries! Continuing on with my example of type 1: the insulin alone runs 400-500/mo. That's a loving car payment on an Acura or Lexus or something. For just the insulin so they can actually derive energy from food.
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Jun 13, 2017 08:49
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Orange Devil posted:Why are you pro capitalism if it is incapable of keeping people alive? the problems are bad, but the causes... the causes are very good
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Mustached Demon posted:Continuing on with my example of type 1: the insulin alone runs 400-500/mo. That's a loving car payment on an Acura or Lexus or something. For just the insulin so they can actually derive energy from food.
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kartikeya posted:Oh, but that's just 'some' dead people, no worries!. Hey I don't think anyone in this thread has argued that the AHCA isn't very very bad. Nobody's argued that it won't kill a lot of people. Nobody's said that we shouldn't worry about the bill. Literally the only two points of contention have been "I'd like to reserve the word genocide for more specific types of atrocities" and "conflating the number of dead with the number of uninsured makes us unserious". After that it's just been people being defensive at each other back and forth. It's past time for everyone to lay off. Ditocoaf fucked around with this message at 09:07 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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Jun 13, 2017 09:00
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Inferior Third Season posted:Yes, but have you considered that many Sorry little Timmy but you can't have insulin today because some millennial went to Starbucks.
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I Am Not Spor posted:Firing Mueller isn't up to Sessions, it's up to Rosenstein. gently caress, you're right. I'm dumb.
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quote:Word of the day: ALIENILOQUENT – unable to keep to the point during a conversation.
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Inferior Third Season posted:Yes, but have you considered that many And let me tell you about identity politics.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:I excessively enjoy bringing this up, but by the wording of the 25th Pence doesn't technically need a legislative supermajority, he just needs a Cabinet majority to support him repeatedly transmitting a declaration of Trump's incapacity every time Congress clears Trump. Invoking the 25th is difficult enough, especially since it's designed to work in cases of physical incapacitation or when a president knows they cannot exercise sound judgment and relinquishes authority willfully. Trump will never do that, so instead it would become a ping-pong game between the president and his supporters and the vice president and his. Invoking the 25th on a president who refuses to accept it would be the King loving Kong of constitutional crises...so of course it's going to happen since I think Bannon gave Trump a Clusterfuck Bingo card and that's the last square he needs.
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Orange Devil posted:And let me tell you about identity politics. Okay, go.
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So did congressional Republicans get high on their own supply to the degree that they do today? I can't help but shake the feeling that Trump could just play out the entire Watergate scandal step-for-step and walk away from it completely fine. Things were probably way different in Nixon's day, and I have the feeling today's GOP has drank their own kool-aid to an extent that was unimaginable forty years ago.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Invoking the 25th is difficult enough, especially since it's designed to work in cases of physical incapacitation or when a president knows they cannot exercise sound judgment and relinquishes authority willfully. Trump will never do that, so instead it would become a ping-pong game between the president and his supporters and the vice president and his. Invoking the 25th on a president who refuses to accept it would be the King loving Kong of constitutional crises...so of course it's going to happen since I think Bannon gave Trump a Clusterfuck Bingo card and that's the last square he needs.
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Drone posted:So did congressional Republicans get high on their own supply to the degree that they do today? I can't help but shake the feeling that Trump could just play out the entire Watergate scandal step-for-step and walk away from it completely fine. Things were probably way different in Nixon's day, and I have the feeling today's GOP has drank their own kool-aid to an extent that was unimaginable forty years ago. The Tea Party really broke the GOP. Like they were always chop full of poo poo fucks but they hid it well through the dog whistle. Then the tea party came along and forced everyone but the most stalwart of GOPers to drop the dog whistle for the fog horn. Else they would face a primary challenge and lose. Before they'd make deals with pork and such to at least function. Now it's 100% bend the knee or face a primary. Plus a good number of blue dogs from 2006/08 were beat by people who actually believe the crazy. Raul Labrador, my esteemed sack of poo poo, literally ran a campaign based on telling Obama and Nancy pelosi no. That was his whole campaign: obstruction. He's also running for governor of Idaho and hopefully will lose to Brad Little. He's at least somewhat respectable as far as Republicans go.
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