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TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
I hope they keep giving out units as good as Xander and Camus

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cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice

TheKingofSprings posted:

I hope they keep giving out units as good as Xander and Camus

same and I hope Ishtar is one of them

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
The next ghb is rein

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



If I can get to the last round, I'm usually golden. Got three teams that can usually handle it, and I even managed to avoid losing anyone a time or two.

It's the leadup that gives me trouble. As long as the A team is intact through round five, it's managable, but once they get ganked... I don't build my backup teams for endurance. Plus, Nino and Robin pull functions my other units can't make up for.

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



Is it worth pushing a +atk - Def 3* Cecilia to 5*

My only green mage is a 5* +hp - Def Nino

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



chiasaur11 posted:

If I can get to the last round, I'm usually golden. Got three teams that can usually handle it, and I even managed to avoid losing anyone a time or two.

It's the leadup that gives me trouble. As long as the A team is intact through round five, it's managable, but once they get ganked... I don't build my backup teams for endurance. Plus, Nino and Robin pull functions my other units can't make up for.

If I have to switch to the B team before Round 7, I use the free slot the team has to counter whatever Veronica and co are doing and stick a healer there instead and that's usually been good enough for me.

tithin posted:

Is it worth pushing a +atk - Def 3* Cecilia to 5*

My only green mage is a 5* +hp - Def Nino

maybe if you're doing Horse Emblem? Nino is great otherwise

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
I hope we get Aversa as a blue (or red) tome flier from a Grand Hero Battle. Give her Aversa's Night as a unique weapon with an Absorb effect (nerfed to 25% or 30%, probably), Hone Speed and Galeforce.

tithin posted:

Is it worth pushing a +atk - Def 3* Cecilia to 5*

My only green mage is a 5* +hp - Def Nino

Consider promoting her to 4* and merging the many other Cecilias you will receive into her, as a 4* +9/+10 is roughly equivalent to a 5* +4/+5 (and has the same effect on your arena score), and costs significantly less feathers than the latter (even if you have to upgrade the others from 3* as well).

Retcon
Jun 23, 2010

Got the seal :toot: Still going to try and get all the orbs, but at least the most important part is done.

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
i got up to 5% on the bridal banner and pulled takumi :shepicide:

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vGz9dlZvd0

New Mystery characters. Katarina, Roderick, Athena, and Luke. So one red mage, cavalier sword, infantry sword, and cavalier lance.

Luke looks like a Nino/meme team counter with his Panic Ploy skill. While Roderick has a Fireswept Lance.

Tired Moritz fucked around with this message at 08:23 on Jun 13, 2017

Snipee
Mar 27, 2010

ungulateman posted:

i got up to 5% on the bridal banner and pulled takumi :shepicide:

There, there. At least Takumi has Close Counter. I got a 5* Peri when I was whaling for Nowi, and now I will never whale again.

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
in fairness a +spd -def takumi is reasonable and i didn't have him yet so while i am still angry, waifuless and not spending money on this game for several months, i am not going to outright quit or anything

e: also if they ever add a trade function i have some spare bridal lyns to go to a good home in exchange for cordelia

Momomo
Dec 26, 2009

Dont judge me, I design your manhole

Tired Moritz posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vGz9dlZvd0

New Mystery characters. Katarina, Roderick, Athena, and Luke. So one red mage, cavalier sword, infantry sword, and cavalier lance.

Luke looks like a Nino/meme team counter with his Panic Ploy skill. While Roderick has a Fireswept Lance.

I'm more interested in a Roro (I refuse to call him Legion) GHB in the future. Might try to pull an Athena though.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
I just really want Makalov

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice
If Katarina was blue I'd probably pull to try to get a Shanna while I was at it but as it is I think I'm gonna keep saving for swimsuits

Retcon
Jun 23, 2010

Going to skip that banner. Katarina is cool and all, but there are two more red focus units on that banner and between Tharja and Celica I really don't need another red mage.

Cool though that there are now more sources of Swift Sparrow and Wo Dao.

a crisp refreshing Moxie
May 2, 2007


Am I interpreting that correctly that the -Ploy abilities have infinite horizontal/vertical range? Because I'm picturing them on a narrow map like Veronica's, and that's...a little unnerving.

Roger Explosion
Jan 26, 2006

THAT'S SPECTACULAR.

a crisp refreshing Moxie posted:

Am I interpreting that correctly that the -Ploy abilities have infinite horizontal/vertical range? Because I'm picturing them on a narrow map like Veronica's, and that's...a little unnerving.
Imagine going up against more than one on a defense team in arena? Goodbye Horse Emblem/Eirika nukes.

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy

a crisp refreshing Moxie posted:

Am I interpreting that correctly that the -Ploy abilities have infinite horizontal/vertical range? Because I'm picturing them on a narrow map like Veronica's, and that's...a little unnerving.

Probably. Much like the new combined skills we are fully heading into power creep. Threaten was p mediocre so something like this is possibly a pretty big improvement.

The drive skill also stands out a bit to me. They may stay away from combining hone skills though cause of blade tomes.

Man the art is really bad this time though except for Katarina I guess.

Rascyc fucked around with this message at 09:32 on Jun 13, 2017

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

Tired Moritz posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vGz9dlZvd0

New Mystery characters. Katarina, Roderick, Athena, and Luke. So one red mage, cavalier sword, infantry sword, and cavalier lance.

Luke looks like a Nino/meme team counter with his Panic Ploy skill. While Roderick has a Fireswept Lance.

I'm going to have no orbs left by the time of this banner because i'll be trying for Charlotte till the last second but I'll think i'll at least throw a couple of orbs at this one. I'd be cool with Katarina or Athena.

Snipee
Mar 27, 2010
Finally at 40k. I'm glad that I'm going to get the seal, but I'm probably not bothering with those orbs. They should have had a score multiplying flags system for the tempest just like they do for the gauntlet to make the grind less boring. Adding daily/weekly quests for the flags would have also been nice to break the monotony.

Roger Explosion
Jan 26, 2006

THAT'S SPECTACULAR.

SyntheticPolygon posted:

I'm going to have no orbs left by the time of this banner because i'll be trying for Charlotte till the last second but I'll think i'll at least throw a couple of orbs at this one. I'd be cool with Katarina or Athena.
You'll get 10 extra orbs if this Tempest thing gets 1 billion points(?) in total. It will.

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

Roger Explosion posted:

You'll get 10 extra orbs if this Tempest thing gets 1 billion points(?) in total. It will.

It already has according to the notifications. We're getting them tomorrow I think. I doubt i'll grab a focus unit in 2 pulls though.

Trihugger
Jun 28, 2008

hello

The White Dragon posted:

lol my team is nowi, rein, nino, and bcordelia. cordelia died because the enemies spawned with shift abilities that made them build a tangled phalanx on the canyon map so it was impossible to break without losing someone, and with my comp, there simply is no letting anyone "eat a counter"

e: these bonus characters really blow, it's such a junk way to handle this event. i'd use ytiki instead of nowi, but she's not a bonus unit. i'd use lucina, but she can't tank a hit from these inflated atk stats. i'd do the "sub the bonus unit in and then surrender" thing but honestly the way these fights have played out, i either win or there was no way i could've won. the way enemies have such powerful skills combined with their crazy stats is just too much.

I haven't had any problems with Lucina tanking. She heals up between maps. I mean, she's not tanking red or blue units, but you don't really need her to. Spur Atk from Lucina and Hone Atk from Nino give Reinhardt effectively +16 Atk. So y'know, gently caress tanking, just kill things with Reinhardt.

And speaking of Reinhardt, the real way to beat Hector is to have Blazing Thunder loaded up on Reinhardt with an Atk buff. Reinhardt is so loving stupid broken that he doesn't care about 72 health Hectors.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, give Lucina Reposition. That way she can throw Reinhardt and Nino in front of her and have them nuke stuff. It doesn't really work on the last map with all the pillars around, but on most maps it's pretty good.

Trihugger fucked around with this message at 10:42 on Jun 13, 2017

Snipee
Mar 27, 2010

Trihugger posted:

I haven't had any problems with Lucina tanking. She heals up between maps. I mean, she's not tanking red or blue units, but you don't really need her to. Spur Atk from Lucina and Hone Atk from Nino give Reinhardt effectively +16 Atk. So y'know, gently caress tanking, just kill things with Reinhardt.

And speaking of Reinhardt, the real way to beat Hector is to have Blazing Thunder loaded up on Reinhardt with an Atk buff. Reinhardt is so loving stupid broken that he doesn't care about 72 health Hectors.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, give Lucina Reposition. That way she can throw Reinhardt and Nino in front of her and have them nuke stuff. It doesn't really work on the last map with all the pillars around, but on most maps it's pretty good.

I recommend switching out Blazing Thunder for Luna, but you pretty much have the same game plan that I do. Julia and Reinhardt sweeps almost every map (saving their specials for the toughest enemies), and Tharja primarily exists to heal everyone else with renewal and reciprocal aid.

Setset
Apr 14, 2012
Grimey Drawer
holy crap, yet another red/blue only banner. I can't remember the last time we got a decent green one. I really need a good green besides nino

Roger Explosion
Jan 26, 2006

THAT'S SPECTACULAR.

Lube banjo posted:

holy crap, yet another red/blue only banner. I can't remember the last time we got a decent green one. I really need a good green besides nino
Anna is right there.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
I just want a blue mage please

Setset
Apr 14, 2012
Grimey Drawer

Roger Explosion posted:

Anna is right there.

according to the highly-scientific tier list anna is only A tier. where the S tiers at?

Silver Falcon
Dec 5, 2005

Two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight and barbecue your own drumsticks!

Tired Moritz posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vGz9dlZvd0

New Mystery characters. Katarina, Roderick, Athena, and Luke. So one red mage, cavalier sword, infantry sword, and cavalier lance.

Luke looks like a Nino/meme team counter with his Panic Ploy skill. While Roderick has a Fireswept Lance.

Eirika would really like that Rally Defense/Res. I was just thinking the other day that I wish there was a defensive version of the Spd/Atk Rally BCordelia gets!

Also I still don't have a decent red tome user so Katarina would be aces! Guess I can put Orbs on the new banner. I was hoping for Lucina on the Tempest banner, but I should have 5* Masked Marth soon and she's technically still Lucina.

blizzardvizard
Sep 12, 2012

Shhh... don't wake up the sleeping lion :3:

Atk Ploy checks Resistance?

My decision to 5* Wrys, validated

Silver Falcon
Dec 5, 2005

Two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight and barbecue your own drumsticks!

I just noticed something weird. I thought merging units only passed on inherited skills they had learned. Yet, my Olivia still has the Brash Assault I picked up just cuz and never bothered to learn.

Also I just threw Reinhardt and Super Olivia along with Eirika and Nino at the Arena and boy what a difference having two magical nukes instead of one makes! I'm back to Tier 17 this week and before my usual team was having trouble clearing more than one or two matches, and I never did manage to get a deathless run last week. Team Rein blasted through three no problem! I'm going to test how they do on defense.

Murderion
Oct 4, 2009

2019. New York is in ruins. The global economy is spiralling. Cyborgs rule over poisoned wastes.

The only time that's left is
FUN TIME

ungulateman posted:

i got up to 5% on the bridal banner and pulled takumi :shepicide:

I whaled a bit and got the same thing (+spd/-hp, so not bad but not the best, probably). I just call it a win if I get any 5*s at all from a banner, focus unit is a bonus.

I'm gonna go all out on the next one, I need need need a good red - I've got Alm at the moment and should be able to promote Xander by the end of the event, but bloody hell do I need a bit of variety.

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
That banner looks bad and I'm glad

Time to hoard

Akett
Aug 6, 2012

So I just took a look at the hero list specifically to learn what rarities units can be pulled at and Cherche can be a 3* pull? The gently caress? I still haven't seen one at all, yet I have five loving 3* Arthurs. I could really use a few sources of pivot for Zephiel and other armor units I might pull in the future.

Murderion
Oct 4, 2009

2019. New York is in ruins. The global economy is spiralling. Cyborgs rule over poisoned wastes.

The only time that's left is
FUN TIME

Akett posted:

So I just took a look at the hero list specifically to learn what rarities units can be pulled at and Cherche can be a 3* pull? The gently caress? I still haven't seen one at all, yet I have five loving 3* Arthurs. I could really use a few sources of pivot for Zephiel and other armor units I might pull in the future.

The gacha is strange and mysterious. I've pulled about 4 of her (two of them -atk because lol), but have only gotten one Arthur. I wish I had more Henrys, tbh. He's so danged useful.

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
Is the swimsuit banner actually a real thing?

blizzardvizard
Sep 12, 2012

Shhh... don't wake up the sleeping lion :3:

From a "they'd be dumb not to do it" perspective, yeah.

Sunning
Sep 14, 2011
Nintendo Guru


No where as bad as a World Tournament in DBZ Dokkan Battle. I still have 80 stamina potions left.

Tips for the Tempest Trial:

1.) What's the best team to use if you want to consistently beat all seven lunatic levels, achieve the best survival/speed ranking, and defeat Veronica?

There's no fullproof team because the mode throws crazy stat and skill combinations that'll even wipe whales. Horse Emblem can run into Azura and mages running horse slayer tomes on a map with trees and valleys. Some of the maps, such as the one square valley or the arena with barricades, can spawn ranged enemies that made initiation very difficult.

The closest I've gotten is with a team comprised of Deathblow Reinhardt, Desperation Nino, Desperation Tharja, and Ruby Sword Olivia. The map and enemy pool favors high damage magic units with Blade/Dire Tomes. They can burst down units with two consecutive hits and have a dancer support them. I've had runs where the only damage was received on purpose to get Nino/Tharja in the desperation range.

The team's weakness was high RES units such as Felicia and Niles. Wary Fighter Hector could also be a problem, especially if he spawns on the last map. This was where Olivia came in to either tank or do chip damage. Due to its very strong core, the team is quite powerful even if they lose one unit.



2.) What should my team combination be if I want to maximize my score?

Team A (If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them....):

- It needs to be able to get through the first six levels very quickly and have a decent shot at Veronica. Your composition will depend on your pulls and skill inheritance setup but I recommend a mage heavy + dancer setup that hits hard and fast
- Use reposition to initiate or to get units out of danger. It can be combined with dance/draw back to great effect. Works best on a three movement cavalry unit
- Common threats (for my teams) in early stages were Wary Fighter Hector, Firesweep Faye, Genny with Wrathful Staff, and anyone with movement assists, especially if they have huge stat inflation
- If you have her, I recommend Tharja as the 40% bonus unit. Her blade tome is quite good even at four stars and she can do very well in the last map. Lucina is also good as a heal bot and fighter
- AoE attacks like Blazing Thunder are useful here since enemies tend to clump up, especially on the last map. Remember to save charges at the end of a round since they carry over to the next




Team B (Veronica Hit squad if Team A wipes on the last map)

- You'll need a team of four that can perform multiple roles at the same time and support each other
- Red Triangle Adept (Sanaki can solo the last map if it spawns with enough green units) or a good anti-Veronica red unit
- An Anti-cav specialist. F. Robin/Ursula/Cecilia are great for baiting and taking out the mounted mage that spawns on the right of the last map
- An Anti-Armor unit. Draug is the easiest to deal with due to his low RES but Gwen and Hector can be a problem if they have wary fighter
- Tank for the melee Cav/armor and colorless units. Xander and Camus are free units that are great in this role.
- Healer if you expect to take hits. High damage bow unit if they have spawn with low def bow or mage unit


Team C (I died on stages 1-6 and need a cleanup crew)

- Whatever is needed to finish the map without using up Team B units

3.) I finally made it to 50K points and got Quickened Pulse. I can't believe it's all over. What do we do now?

What do you mean? Now we can finally play the game.

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Rodenthar Drothman
May 14, 2013

I think I will continue
watching this twilight world
as long as time flows.
Looks like my cordelia is +atk -def, so death blow here i come. Sorry hawkeye.

So now that i have 20k feathers again, who should i promote?

I have only one 5* caster (ursula), a couple 5* swords, lances, and axes, a thief (ty about the jakob advice. I think I'll work on him), and a healer (my opinion of my WoM lucius has changed. He's not terrible.)

My options:
+spd -def cecilia
+spd (i think) -res tharja
+atk -spd nino
Neutral (i think?) Xander (I'm nowhere near a horse emblem yet)

Or level my alphonse or anna a bit and get another sword or axe (i don't think i really need one)

I also don't have a lot of dupes right now, but i do have one or two tharjas and cecilias around i could feed those two to start +leveling them.

E: also, oof. Looks like i have to mulch my 4* 40 shanna for desperation 3. Kinda stings, but i haven't used her in a long while. All to make a better lance flier anyway.

Though i guess i could throw her at tharja? Don't think it's worth it though.

E2: dark horse: i could upgrade a bunch of 3* sources of important skills (seal speed for jakob, a few draconic auras, etc.) Instead of a 5*.

Rodenthar Drothman fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Jun 13, 2017

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