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Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
It's probably not too far fetched to say that Jussi Halla-aho, who has been writing racist poo poo online at least since 2001, has belonged to a fascist and racist organization for about as long, has been convicted of racist hate speech and has been receiving the support Hommaforum, a racist discussion forum since 2007, might be racist.

This really isn't a discussion worth having, look poo poo up on Wikiquote or whatever.

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Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Ligur posted:

gently caress you too

Nice meltdown

Geriatric Pirate
Apr 25, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Kemper Boyd posted:

It's probably not too far fetched to say that Jussi Halla-aho, who has been writing racist poo poo online at least since 2001, has belonged to a fascist and racist organization for about as long, has been convicted of racist hate speech and has been receiving the support Hommaforum, a racist discussion forum since 2007, might be racist.

This really isn't a discussion worth having, look poo poo up on Wikiquote or whatever.

Why is it so difficult for you guys to post even one quote, given that (as you said) he's been blogging since 2001 and posting on Homma? Hell, you could just post something from his wiki quote. It's funny how like 3 of youbguysbhave just responded "everyone knows he's a racist, look it up" instead of posting a single quote.

junan_paalla
Dec 29, 2009

Seriously, do drugs

quote:

Todellinen vikapää ei ole afro, joka toteuttaa itseään juuri niin kauan ja paljon kuin koneisto antaa hänen toteuttaa. Todellinen syyllinen, ja legitiimi vihan kohde, on se utopiassa elävä poliittinen eliitti, jolle neekeri on hoivattava reppana ja kiva halinalle ja joka vähät välittää yhteiskuntarauhasta.

-Jussi Halla-Aho 30.9.2005 Scripta

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Tehtaanpuiston homon kanssa mietin hetken, että jospa hakisin yläkerrasta pyssyn ja ampuisin päähän. Olisiko siitä seuraava hekuma niin suuri, että se ylittäisi vankilareissusta seuraavan harmituksen? Väkivalta on nykyään aliarvostettu ongelmanratkaisukeino.
-Jussi Halla-Aho 17.10.2003 Scripta

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Pelottavaa on vain se, että poliisi ei vallitsevassa mediailmapiirissä voi ampua luotia päähän kiviä nakkelevalle ihmissaastalle. Itse vasemmistohuligaanihan on vain liikaa amerikkalaisia elokuvia nähnyt hyytelötytinä, joka kaatuu puhaltamalla.
-Jussi Halla-Aho 19.5.2006 Scripta

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Minä ainakaan en mene väliin, jos näen jossakin pahoinpitelyn tai raiskauksen. Poliisille toki soitan, mutta on aivan varmaa, etten ryhdy omatoimisesti tapahtumiin puuttumaan. Yksi syy on se, että raiskaajat ja pahoinpitelijät, jotka yleisillä paikoilla suoritettavissa akteissa pääsääntöisesti ovat kolmannen maailman tulokkaita, ovat yleensä aseistettuja ja erittäin halukkaita vahingoittamaan ja tappamaan. En halua kuolla. Toinen ja luultavasti tärkeämpi syy on se, että en vähäisimmässäkään määrin halua riskeerata tilannetta, jossa joutuisin maksamaan jollekin Afrikan sarven ihmissaastalle vahingonkorvauksia "kivusta ja särystä". Tuollaisessa tilanteessa voisin hyvin kuvitella menettäväni kokonaan itsehillinnän ja ottavani hengiltä sekä tuomarin, kipua ja särkyä kärsineen saastan että häntä puolustavan oikeusavustajan.
-Jussi Halla-Aho 13.9.2007 Scripta

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Minua ihmetyttää kokonaisvaltaisesti, miksi muslimeilla on niin suuri halu tuottaa kipua heikoimmassa asemassa oleville, kuten eläimille, lapsille ja naisille. Mielestäni tämä kaava on aika selkeä. Miksi musulmaanit hyppelevät munat pystyssä mölähdellen, kun päitä katkotaan tai jotakuta lyödään raipalla?

-Jussi Halla-Aho 8.2.2007 Scripta

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Somalit ovat perineet suomalaisessa tajunnassa sen position, joka vuosisatojen ajan kuului romaneille. On vaikea nimetä röyhkeämpää, kiittämättömämpää, vaateliaampaa, aggressiivisempaa ja kaikkinaisesta itsekriittisyydestä vapaampaa vähemmistöä kuin somalit. Kaikista muista, haasteellisistakin, ryhmistä nousee niitä, jotka kehottavat omiaan lopettamaan rasismiruikutuksen ja katsomaan peiliin. Vaan ei somaleista.

-Jussi Halla-Aho 10.1.2007 Scripta

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Minun on vaikea keksiä maailmankaikkeudesta alhaisempaa matelijaa kuin pohjoismainen sosiaalidemokraatti. Tämän reptiilin erityisen limainen alalaji on ruotsalainen sosiaalidemokraatti.

-Jussi Halla-Aho 23.3.2006 Scripta

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Kollektiivisessa närkästyksessäni huomaan välillä, että minun on vaikea tuntea aitoa sympatiaa näiden rikosten uhreja kohtaan. Tunnen houkutusta ajatella, että naiset saavat sitä, mitä pyytävät. Yritän kuitenkin olla ajattelematta näin. Koska kaikki naiset eivät ole sellaisia kuin Virtanen, Biaudet ja Filatov. Raiskaukset tulevat joka tapauksessa lisääntymään. Koska näin ollen yhä useampi nainen tulee joka tapauksessa raiskatuksi, toivon hartaasti, että uhrinsa sattumanvaraisesti valitsevien saalistajien kynsiin jäisivät oikeat naisihmiset. Vihervasemmistolaiset maailmanparantajat ja heidän äänestäjänsä. Mieluummin he kuin joku muu. Heihin ei tehoa mikään muu kuin se, että monikulttuuri osuu omaan nilkkaan.

-Jussi Halla-Aho 20.12.2006 Scripta

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Geriatric Pirate posted:

Why is it so difficult for you guys to post even one quote, given that (as you said) he's been blogging since 2001 and posting on Homma? Hell, you could just post something from his wiki quote. It's funny how like 3 of youbguysbhave just responded "everyone knows he's a racist, look it up" instead of posting a single quote.

You seem super salty because your lot decided to not invite the nazi into government. Why's that?

Geriatric Pirate
Apr 25, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Cerebral Bore posted:

You seem super salty because your lot decided to not invite the nazi into government. Why's that?

Because PS were doing nothing in government and they'll be replaced by RKP and KD who are going to slow down the new alcohol law and get that hospital in Vaasa. Not that it was possible to govern with Halla-Aho, it's just annoying that they elected him in the first place.

Ideal situation: half of PS leaves the party and continues to govern, maybe with KD thrown in as well.

And see, those quotes weren't that difficult to find, were they?

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Geriatric Pirate posted:

And see, those quotes weren't that difficult to find, were they?

Yeah, finding them takes literally two minutes of googling that you couldn't bother to do and now you're trying to act like other people are the unreasonable ones here?

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
https://www.karjalainen.fi/uutiset/uutis-alueet/kotimaa/item/145530-kansanedustaja-kari-kulmala-eroaa-perussuomalaisista

It begins.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Jos työ eduskunnassa päättyy, onhan minulla vielä toki työni poliisina, Kulmala pohti maanantaina.

Is there anything more racist in this country than a persupoliisi?

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks

Nenonen posted:

Is there anything more racist in this country than a persupoliisi?

Jussi Halla-aho, I'd say.

No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

This inkling is your FRIEND
She fights for LOVE
Yesterday two other TF members resigned.

Karjalainen posted:

Väinö Hernesniemen ja Veijo Sykön mukaan puolueen nykyjohdon huolena ei ole esimerkiksi kansalaisten nopea kahtiajakautuminen huono- ja hyväosaisiin, työttömyys, syrjäytyneisyys, vanhusten ja lasten hoito sekä sosiaaliset ongelmat yleensäkin.

- Hurmoksenomaisella nykyisellä Perussuomalaisella puolueella on tavoitteena eristää Suomi kansainvälisestä toiminnasta ja sulkea rajat myös sotaa pakenevilta ihmisiltä. Samalla jäisimme itse tullimuurien ja vapaan matkustamisen estävien muurien taakse.

- Mielestämme puolueen ovat kaapanneet raakojen arvojen kannattajat, jotka itse ovat saaneet valmiin ja rakennetun maan asuttavakseen kovaa työtä ja uhrauksia tehneiltä vanhemmiltaan. Emme voi osallistua tällaisen nykypuolueen tukemiseen ja jäsenyyteen, Hernesniemi ja Sykkö toteavat tiedotteessaan.
At this rate only the most right-leaning hard-liners remain. This is a people's party no more.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


I've heard that this Hitler guy might be racist. Could someone please post some quotes so I could determine the accuracy of this claim?

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

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Why did these people only discover their concern for the poor common man and woman after sitting in government with kokoomus and keskusta for two whole years? Where was your concern when hallintarekisteri was passed or the welfare applications were transferred to Kela causing people to have to choose between medication and food? Where were they when the bread queues kept growing?

DanTheFryingPan
Jan 28, 2006

Geriatric Pirate posted:

And see, those quotes weren't that difficult to find, were they?

Why can't you educate me because I'm too lazy to look up anything on even the most basic level :cry:

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Antti posted:

Why did these people only discover their concern for the poor common man and woman after sitting in government with kokoomus and keskusta for two whole years? Where was your concern when hallintarekisteri was passed or the welfare applications were transferred to Kela causing people to have to choose between medication and food? Where were they when the bread queues kept growing?

It's because all persu eduskuntapeople are cowards and bullshitters who don't have the guts to admit what their party actually stands for, but now they've got someone who's legit even more terrible than themselves to point to which lets them pretend that something substantial has changed and thus gives them an out.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks

Antti posted:

Why did these people only discover their concern for the poor common man and woman after sitting in government with kokoomus and keskusta for two whole years? Where was your concern when hallintarekisteri was passed or the welfare applications were transferred to Kela causing people to have to choose between medication and food? Where were they when the bread queues kept growing?

Soini was really good at keeping them in check. Any dissent was punished.

Geriatric Pirate
Apr 25, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Antti posted:

Why did these people only discover their concern for the poor common man and woman after sitting in government with kokoomus and keskusta for two whole years? Where was your concern when hallintarekisteri was passed or the welfare applications were transferred to Kela causing people to have to choose between medication and food? Where were they when the bread queues kept growing?

Here's a thought: the "common man" in Finland is actually doing quite well, and despite the flood of :qq:, hallintarekisteri has almost no impact

It's pretty weird to see all the middle class left wing kids who are seeing their entitlements (free university education, free daycare for people who can afford to pay) get threatened for the first time in their lives. The actual poor have basically seen no cuts.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Geriatric Pirate posted:

Here's a thought: the "common man" in Finland is actually doing quite well, and despite the flood of :qq:, hallintarekisteri has almost no impact

It's pretty weird to see all the middle class left wing kids who are seeing their entitlements (free university education, free daycare for people who can afford to pay) get threatened for the first time in their lives. The actual poor have basically seen no cuts.

lol look at this out of touch bullshit.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

"20 kansanedustajaa on hetki sitten jättänyt perussuomalaisten eduskuntaryhmän."

https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-9666763

Counter-jytky!

Issaries fucked around with this message at 11:16 on Jun 13, 2017

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug

ilmeisesti persut ei ollut tarpeeksi rasistinen

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

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Looks like the government won't even have to resign. All the ministers defected.

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug

adhuin posted:

"20 kansanedustajaa on hetki sitten jättänyt perussuomalaisten eduskuntaryhmän."

https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-9666763

Counter-jytky!

ahahaha

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

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No new elections sucks but two parties fighting for the same voters and bickering with each other will make up for it.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa
Is Soini going to spend the next 20 years nurturing a new populist party? Hey, maybe this time it'll work!!!

No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

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adhuin posted:

"20 kansanedustajaa on hetki sitten jättänyt perussuomalaisten eduskuntaryhmän."

https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-9666763

Counter-jytky!

This has been an extraordinary couple of days so far. They really are the inheritors of SMP's legacy.

SnowblindFatal
Jan 7, 2011

junan_paalla posted:

-Jussi Halla-Aho 30.9.2005 Scripta

-Jussi Halla-Aho 17.10.2003 Scripta

-Jussi Halla-Aho 19.5.2006 Scripta

-Jussi Halla-Aho 13.9.2007 Scripta


-Jussi Halla-Aho 8.2.2007 Scripta


-Jussi Halla-Aho 10.1.2007 Scripta


-Jussi Halla-Aho 23.3.2006 Scripta


-Jussi Halla-Aho 20.12.2006 Scripta

Ok, thanks. Well looks like he's just gotten more careful lately. But gosh did this take some digging.

Regardless of Halla-aho's stupid postings of the past, he still makes relevant points these days and other parties should answer with proper arguments instead of just saying that these are things which shouldn't be discussed.

No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

This inkling is your FRIEND
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SnowblindFatal posted:

Regardless of Halla-aho's stupid postings of the past, he still makes relevant points these days and other parties should answer with proper arguments instead of just saying that these are things which shouldn't be discussed.
What points would they be, and in what way have the other parties ignored them?

Rappaport
Oct 2, 2013

At least 2 more persu-MPs have defected, maybe Soini can take his party back after all :allears:

Double Bill
Jan 29, 2006

http://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000005252440.html

quote:

Ryhmä on valmis jatkamaan Juha Sipilän (kesk) johtamassa hallituksessa.

– Tämä todennäköisesti tuhoaa poliittisen uramme, Simon Elo kommentoi.

Yeah no poo poo, the voters are going to bury them in 2019

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

adhuin posted:

"20 kansanedustajaa on hetki sitten jättänyt perussuomalaisten eduskuntaryhmän."

https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-9666763

Counter-jytky!

This is literally the funniest thing I've seen in a good long while.

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

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Double Bill posted:

http://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000005252440.html


Yeah no poo poo, the voters are going to bury them in 2019

I know, right? It does worry me how much this will put wind in Halla-aho's sails compared to just losing the election.

It's basically what everyone thought might happen but it was Soini quitting the party instead.

Oh and that Aamulehti report last week called this exact scenario.

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

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I don't get this one. Putkonen is sticking with Hallis I guess?


Putkonen: Perussuomalaiset oli sitoutunut hallitusohjelmaan ja yhdessä sovittuihin arvoihin. Kysymys bisneksestä eli veroeurojen ohjaamisesta kepulaisten ja kokoomuslaisten taskuihin, sanoo Putkonen. Maahanmuutto yksityisille toimijoille tuottavaa, sanoo Putkonen lähetyksessä. Vielä tiiviimmät poliittis-taloudelliset kytkökset energiatuotannossa, ja duunarit ja köyhät ovat näissä maksumiehinä sosiaaliturvan leikkausten kautta, Putkonen sanoo. Putkonen kritisoi tuulivoiman tukia ja varoittelee uudesta turvapaikanhakijoiden vyörystä, kuten vuonna 2015.

Rotacixe
Oct 21, 2008

adhuin posted:

"20 kansanedustajaa on hetki sitten jättänyt perussuomalaisten eduskuntaryhmän."

https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-9666763

Counter-jytky!

I can't handle the irony that the populist party's convention "äänesti väärin". You can draw an analogue to the European Constitution that was pushed trough in new referendums as the Lisbon treaty, something they detested. So much for "kyllä kansa tietää". Maybe this time they'll actually better police their candidates. If they can survive without their Halmes and Hallas.

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme
I can't believe Soini is so attached to his minister post that he quit his own creation rather than cut the term short.

What happens when the next election comes along and he's not in the government? Jump ship to whatever party offers him the coziest position? Hang himself?

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Darkest Auer posted:

I can't believe Soini is so attached to his minister post that he quit his own creation rather than cut the term short.

Are you under the impression that persut has even been anything else in Soini's mind than a way for him to get his grubby hands on a ministerinsalkku?


Besides that, the cherry on top in all this is Lex Soini. Talk about karma coming back to bite you in the rear end.

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

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Darkest Auer posted:

I can't believe Soini is so attached to his minister post that he quit his own creation rather than cut the term short.

What happens when the next election comes along and he's not in the government? Jump ship to whatever party offers him the coziest position? Hang himself?

– Ajatus siitä, että loikkaisin perustamastani puolueesta on mieletön. Se oli Juudas, en minä, joka meni ja hirtti itsensä, Soini kirjoitti.

throw to first DAMN IT
Apr 10, 2007
This whole thread has been raging at the people who don't want Saracen invasion to their homes

Perhaps you too should be more accepting of their cultures
I don't honestly see any way for Soini and co. to survive next elections but few things make as terrible decisions as voters so who the gently caress knows.

It's just, I don't know who the hell would vote for him? Hitlers hate him because he let in trillions of terrorists and the workers hate him for getting into bed with Cocks, something he is now repeating. Halla-aho is guaranteed to blame everything that goes bad on Soini to deflect poo poo from Persut. Who the hell actually is there left that likes him?

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

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He was already a dead man walking so squeezing two more years of power out of this mess is a good result for him.

Double Bill
Jan 29, 2006

Soini is retiring soon so no one, himself included, gives a poo poo what he does at this point

Everyone following him now are loving suicidal though

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No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

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Just think of the poor souls in all those provincial party offices who have to choose between two sides now. It's a civil war out there.

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