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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

lmao

https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/874632421622243329

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Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...


I'm glad he's finally having fun with it as well.

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy
Good to see Bercow re-elected unopposed

Coucho Marx
Mar 2, 2009

kick back and relax

VideoGames posted:

It's pretty much exactly the same in regards to vaccinations.

This is from like a page ago, but it reminded me of my mum getting me my first vaccinations. When we went in (early 90's Australia), there were apparently a lot of other mums fussing over their babies, worrying about the needles and side effects and stuff. The nurse asked my mum why she seemed less worried; mum replied with something along the lines of "my dad (born mid-30's) had polio, stab away!". Side note: my grandfather is solidly socialist :3:

You wonder if Gen Y (probably most of us on this dead gay forum) are gonna be that generation about, I dunno, drugs maybe. Some lovely anti-drug backlash pops up in fifty year's time, and we get to be the olds that say, yeah, well, we tried banning that poo poo too, and we have graveyards full of the dead that that policy created *rolls blunt*


How do you gently caress up that much as a government that, immediately after an election, the people want another election

like it's almost a hard rule of Western democracy that (ironically) people loving hate elections at the best of times

And yet here we are, the British public baying for even more blood at the ballot box, their third election in two years.

What a time to be alive.

yes I know that figure is almost all progressive voters, shut up

Coucho Marx fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Jun 13, 2017

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
Bit rude of everyone to start talking amongst themselves when the Plaid Cymru guy and Caroline Lucas were doing their speeches mind

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009


:discourse:

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

ThomasPaine posted:

Bit rude of everyone to start talking amongst themselves when the Plaid Cymru guy and Caroline Lucas were doing their speeches mind

Rude twats in Parliament? Never!

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Sassy Corbyn is the best.

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


He had his wheeties this morning :q:

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Mmmm MMMMM keep spreading that sassy jams corby!

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Remember when Momentum were Communist infiltrators who would never achieve anything but simultaneously capable of re-opening the gulags?

Different times, different tone: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/13/there-is-no-unwinnable-seat-now-how-labour-revolutionised-its-doorstep-game

The whole article is full of adorable :3: stuff too.

quote:

Sarah Jones, the new MP for Croydon Central, won her seat from the former Conservative housing minister (and May’s new chief of staff) Gavin Barwell with a 9.7% swing – and added more than 7,000 votes. Jones is aligned with the Blairite pressure group Progress, and didn’t vote for Corbyn in either leadership election, but she is unequivocal in her enthusiasm for the new way of doing things. “I think everybody who didn’t vote for Jeremy has been delighted with what we’ve managed to achieve on Thursday,” she said. “I’m now sure we wouldn’t have done so well if someone else had been leading the party.” She describes thousands of new campaigners on the streets of Croydon in the past seven weeks – and at least 700 or 800 volunteers on election day to “get out the vote” (GOTV), including hundreds of first-time canvassers, coming from across London and the south-east. “There were so many young people; but not only young people, people diverse in their backgrounds, in their gender, everything – we’d buddy people up, a new canvasser with a more experienced party member – but then so many of the first-timers and Momentum people would come back, that was the amazing thing – and after two sessions they were the experienced ones, leading the new ones. It was a completely different kind of campaign.”

quote:

we looked at the fact that Clegg only had a majority of a few thousand, and we said: ‘You know what, maybe we can win here?’ So Momentum filled the gap. Everything, from the official campaign photos to making the memes for social media, to just arranging the printing of election materials. We didn’t have any glossy ‘Vote Jared O’Mara’ leaflets or posters, we just had a double-sided photocopied A4 bulletin – it didn’t look slick, to be honest. It was a really scratch campaign – one that without Momentum wouldn’t have existed – but it worked.

quote:

“I heard about people being overwhelmed in a few seats, after we sent out text messages directing volunteers,” says Beth Foster-Ogg, 20, Momentum’s membership organiser. “I got a call from Cambridge, from a local organiser saying: ‘You’ve sent me too many people! We’ve sent out all the boards and there’s still loads of people flooding in, we don’t know what to do.’ It happened in Leeds North West, too – they started the day, they had so many activists that they went: ‘Right, let’s scrap our whole strategy, we’re going to just print off the electoral register instead’

Junior G-man fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Jun 13, 2017

unwantedplatypus
Sep 6, 2012

Firos posted:

1945 had the Labour government with the greatest achievement in their history: the creation of the NHS.

Edit: Owlfancier! :argh:

Brings up a memory, my civics teacher in high school lamented that it was very rude of the British people to kick out Churchill after all he had done for them.

UrbicaMortis
Feb 16, 2012

Hmm, how shall I post today?


Glad to see he's enjoying this as much as I am.

Edit: Cool, my first gangtag.

Spuckuk
Aug 11, 2009

Being a bastard works



Extreme0 posted:

Harry Leslie Smith is a pretty good example. He's 94 and yet is still very politcally active social media. He recently made a podcast to record his experiences from the past and today for people to not forget everything that's happened and to inspire others.

“There are so few people left alive from back then, you may as well be talking to them about the Black Death. Nobody recalls the shite in the 30s and that were loving horrible. For Christ's sake, nobody wants to remember the shite in the 80s. It's all forgotten and swept under the rug by the newspapers and the BBC. They get nostalgic about the music, but they never want to mention the misery. It's all shite. As for the bloody Second World War, the politicians only talk about it when they need an excuse to go pissing about in one of those loving Muslim countries.”
― Harry Leslie Smith

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Junior G-man posted:

Remember when Momentum were Communist infiltrators who would never achieve anything but simultaneously capable of re-opening the gulags?

Different times, different tone: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/13/there-is-no-unwinnable-seat-now-how-labour-revolutionised-its-doorstep-game

The whole article is full of adorable :3: stuff too.

Remember when the narrative was "all these useless students just paid their Ł3 to vote Corbyn and then hosed off, they'll never turn up to meetings or do any activism for the party"?

lol

DeadButDelicious
Oct 11, 2012

Leave me to do my dark bidding on the internet!
Maybe the Corbyn power walk gif is accurate. That amount of sass in the Commons is pure WWE promo material. Love it.

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


unwantedplatypus posted:

Brings up a memory, my civics teacher in high school lamented that it was very rude of the British people to kick out Churchill after all he had done for them.

Churchill was very good at ordering people shot, but it was Clement Attlee that ran the country during WW2. Churchill got his place in history, Attlee got to lead the greatest Government in British history. All worked out for the best.*

*except for the Welsh miners, who were shot

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Halisnacks posted:

I was wondering: short of a parliamentary vote going to poo poo for the Tories, could anything that happens outside of the House of Commons conceivably bring them down? Does their minority position now weaken them to bad press in general, or problems with their ministries? For example, could another acute NHS crisis (doctor/nurse strike, bringing in the Red Cross, etc.) compromise their position in government?

Some sort of NHS crisis would absolutely hurt the Tories as it'd allow Corbyn and Labour to keep hitting them on spending cuts. The problem for the Tories is that if their poll numbers keep dropping it'd only take 4 backbenchers with big majorities to think "we'd better have this election before it gets any worse" and back a vote of no confidence.

Cat Machine
Jun 18, 2008

unwantedplatypus posted:

Brings up a memory, my civics teacher in high school lamented that it was very rude of the British people to kick out Churchill after all he had done for them.
Churchill was Tory MP and opposed the NHS

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

communism bitch posted:

Remember when the narrative was "all these useless students just paid their Ł3 to vote Corbyn and then hosed off, they'll never turn up to meetings or do any activism for the party"?

lol

"Activists? That's cute. Wait until you are crushed under the weight of CAMBRIDGE ANALYTICA"

Cat Machine posted:

Churchill was Tory MP and opposed the NHS

He was also a Liberal MP and approved of a cradle to grave welfare state

Churchill was a weird guy (read: drunk)

Dirk Pitt
Sep 14, 2007

haha yes, this feels good

Toilet Rascal
I love seeing a left movement coming to light. Makes me so happy. It was like she was on a celebrity roast.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)
While a racist shithead Churchill also said:

quote:

Roads are made, streets are made, services are improved, electric light turns night into day, water is brought from reservoirs a hundred miles off in the mountains – and all the while the landlord sits still. Every one of those improvements is effected by the labour and cost of other people and the taxpayers. To not one of those improvements does the land monopolist, as a land monopolist, contribute, and yet by every one of them the value of his land is enhanced. He renders no service to the community, he contributes nothing to the general welfare, he contributes nothing to the process from which his own enrichment is derived ... the unearned increment on the land is reaped by the land monopolist in exact proportion, not to the service, but to the disservice done.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
Holy poo poo are SF going to parliament with the sole purpose of sewing chaos and disorder? My men!

Safety Biscuits
Oct 21, 2010

Miftan posted:

Can chemicals turn lizard people gay or is it exclusively frogs?

Frogs cannot turn people gay, lizards or no lizards.

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


Safety Biscuits posted:

Frogs cannot turn people gay, lizards or no lizards.

?

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

JBP posted:

Holy poo poo are SF going to parliament with the sole purpose of sewing chaos and disorder? My men!

While I'm sure they'll be working had to prevent the Tory-DUP coalition (or whatever it is/will be) from taking place, they're not going to take their seats in the chamber. The Sun, as usual, is full of poo poo.

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

JBP posted:

Holy poo poo are SF going to parliament with the sole purpose of sewing chaos and disorder? My men!

?

dispatch_async
Nov 28, 2014

Imagine having the time to have played through 20 generations of one family in The Sims 2. Imagine making the original two members of that family Neil Buchanan and Cat Deeley. Imagine complaining to Maxis there was no technological progression. You've successfully imagined my life
Rumours about the shadow cabinet reshuffle tomorrow: http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2017/06/whos-job-jeremy-corbyns-new-shadow-cabinet

quote:

Who will be in? Although there is a great deal of excitement in the press about a possible return to the shadow Home Office brief for Yvette Cooper, I’m told that is “not on the cards”.

“Jeremy has an immense sense of loyalty,” one well-placed source tells me, “he’s not going to remove people who have stuck by him, including those with very different politics, to accommodate others who have come to the party late.”

Another person close to the leader’s office observed that it would be “a slap in the face” to the likes of Barry Gardiner, Jonny Reynolds and Jon Ashworth, who have stayed in the shadow cabinet and put their shoulders to the wheel despite being from the centre-left, not the left, if they were moved to make way for the likes of Cooper.

The Labour leader is not minded to create vacancies by sacking those who have put their shoulders to the wheel, although a few older hands who served out of obligation, such as Teresa Pearce, the shadow communities secretary, have asked to return to the backbenches. Grahame Morris, too, is unwell and will be recused from duty.

As well as the central trio of Emily Thornberry, John McDonnell and Diane Abbott, Angela Rayner is immovable at shadow education and Jon Ashworth a near-certainty to remain at shadow health. Former Corbynsceptics will be welcomed in, but to junior posts and to fill existing vacancies.

There will also be a determined effort to move on a generation. Centre-left MPs will be drawn from the Ashworth generation of 30 and 40-somethings, rather than appointing old warriors. There is a strong appetite in the leader’s office to find a post for Ed Miliband, but the difficulty is finding one that “gets the most out of him”. Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy is being shadowed by Rebecca Long-Bailey, a favoured long-term candidate for the succession. McDonnell is of course an essential at shadow Treasury.

There are two posts that are likely to see the return of veterans. The role of shadow Northern Ireland is, due to the stalled executive and the active role of the DUP in sustaining the Conservative government, likely to go to an experienced operator. Vernon Coaker, who held the post under Ed Miliband and Corbyn, and who is regarded by the leader's office as a straight operator, could make a comeback there.

The other prize job for an old hand is the post of shadow leader of the House, currently held by Valerie Vaz. With the Conservative minority, the post is vital. The leader’s office were surprised to see Andrea Leadsom, who is not regarded to have been a success as environment secretary, moved to the post. There are a number of big beasts who could symbolically show that the party has united behind Corbyn by serving there with experience of the role – Harriet Harman chief among them. But I’m told that the favourite at present is Chris Bryant, who knows the ways of the House better than almost anyone, though Andrew Gwynne, who impressed the leader's office on the campaign trail, is also favoured.

But for the most part, continuity, rather than change, will be Corbyn’s watchword when he reshuffles his frontbench tomorrow.

CptAwesome
Nov 2, 2005


Remove this immediately.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

I would be so happy if sassy Ed made a comeback as well.

Big Hubris
Mar 8, 2011


The DPRK posted:

Have at it.

gently caress me, just dug a bit deeper and found this post from 2 days ago, same guy:

I remember the face of the traitor Calvinist gently caress who wrote that poo poo originally, and the original pamphlet which contrasted it Lincoln's speech on collective good.

Needless to say, the chain email version put Lincoln's words in the traitor's mouth. This is like, the legit oldest forward I've ever seen.

Big Hubris fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Jun 13, 2017

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

MikeCrotch posted:

"Activists? That's cute. Wait until you are crushed under the weight of CAMBRIDGE ANALYTICA"


He was also a Liberal MP and approved of a cradle to grave welfare state

Churchill was a weird guy (read: drunk)

I'm going to repost this article yet again just so everyone understands how funny the above post is.

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Haven't we heard that Ed Milliband story a million times and been debunked the same number?

Dirk Pitt
Sep 14, 2007

haha yes, this feels good

Toilet Rascal
Are MP's supposed to listen to what the big party says? So is Corrbyn supposed to be accountable to a board of people outside parliament?

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.
I was just thinking about when none of the other Labour candidates for leader would give a straight answer on wether they'd have Ed serve in the shadow cabinet and then Corbyn was just, "Well, I'd like Ed back in Energy and Climate where he did very well."

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Dan Didio posted:

I was just thinking about when none of the other Labour candidates for leader would give a straight answer on wether they'd have Ed serve in the shadow cabinet and then Corbyn was just, "Well, I'd like Ed back in Energy and Climate where he did very well."

As I recall Ed said he was honoured by the offer but declined having just stepped down from the biggest fuckbarrelling of his life by our evil loving press.

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012


Funny part of this, is Ashworth is very much in the Cooper wing on the party and was widely derided as committing career suicide among his allies and the press when he took up the shadow health brief, now he's sitting pretty.

UnlimitedSpessmans
Jul 31, 2015
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...d-a7787681.html

john major is good?

Darth Windu
Mar 17, 2009

by Smythe
What are backbenchers?

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UnlimitedSpessmans
Jul 31, 2015

Darth Windu posted:

What are backbenchers?

mp's with no extra responsibilities, named so because front benchers are stuff like ministers and the like.

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